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**Azure**

Yeah man, they nearly killed Cato and Tigurius, blasted down the 1st company's venerable dread according to a different piece of fluff concerning the planet and in total: took zero casualties. Sure exterminatus was called on it, but that won't really hurt the Necrons at all

**Vhalyar**

Azure wrote:Yeah man, they nearly killed Cato and Tigurius, blasted down the 1st company's venerable dread according to a different piece of fluff concerning the planet and in total: took zero casualties. Sure exterminatus was called on it, but that won't really hurt the Necrons at all

The lords are pretty much gone for the most part, that's their casualties. And Damnos is now gone along with all of the Necrons, it wasn't just a surface bombardment.
Of course GW could always retcon the story so that Damnos doesn't get blown up.

**Azure**

Spoiler:

**Vhalyar**

Spoiler:

It's all meaningless anyway, because the tomb world itself gets obliterated, barring retcons to 5th ed material. In other words, they're all destroyed.

**jspyd3rx**

Vhalyar wrote:

Spoiler:

Sahtah got psychically fried. The text pretty much makes it rather clear that he's not going to be able to reform.
The Voidbringer was betrayed and pretty much eradicated by the false resurrection orb. He's not coming back too.

As for the others being regenerated, the Cryptek specifically plotted to get all of them killed in order to become a royarch; I really doubt that he'll just let them recover peacefully.

It's all meaningless anyway, because the tomb world itself gets obliterated, barring retcons to 5th ed material. In other words, they're all destroyed.

Are you sure that maybe they "will be back"? Sorry couldn't help myself.

**Armadeus**

yakface wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:I wonder if the C'Tan will vanish... 'cause I've got to get those models!

I heard rumblings from a pretty reliable source (although this was such a long time ago now that GW could have totally changed their mind) that the C'Tan were going to be dropped from the codex and made Apocalypse only...but that doesn't necessarily mean the models would be dropped from the range, most likely just moved to direct sales only kind of deal would be my guess.

Again, assuming that rumor actually holds true when the codex is released.

Tony the guardsman wrote:FNP is awesome...just awesome...
No more of those stupid WBB rules!

Y'know, I used to be onboard with that concept, but then they went and gave Feel No Pain to Deathguard, Orks (Nobs w/Dok), Space Marines (Apothecary), Tyranids (through Catalyst), Blood Angels (Blood Chalice) and then the whole Dark Eldar army (Power From Pain) and now it almost seems like every army has Feel No Pain so I'm kind of dreading having another whole army walking around with Feel No Pain.

I almost wish they'd just do something like have every Necron unit that is still in play (but not at full strength) roll a D6 at the start of their turn and add that many models back to the unit...obviously it would need to be tweaked, but at this point I really hope they don't go with Feel No Pain for Necrons, although the current rule definitely needs to be scrapped for sure.

Agreed.

**Kurgash**

I asked ghost21 on Warseer about WBB's transformation and was told it was being tweaked into a new form, not FnP.

Not sure what to make of it but hey, it's not a cop out.

**Dr. Temujin**

angelshade00 wrote:Well i suppose that since Storm of Magic is set for July, we have to expect the Necrons later...i just hope it's not going to be too late this time... I'm just starting with them and i'd hate to play with a totally outdated army...

Just because the current codex is old, doesn't mean you can't take the fight to the enemy's backside now and then. I'm pretty sure there's plenty of resources that can attest to that.

**Ouze**

dancingcricket wrote:Sigh. Another book featuring the Necrons where the 'crons will lose in the end. Hopefully it'll be better than FoD, where they lost like what, 5, 6 marines while taking out hundreds if not thousands of Necrons?

It makes it a bit hard to buy the fluff and the whole grimdark bit when all their stuff tends to have the marines winning with kill ratios of 1000:1.

Actually, I don't think this is accurate.

Spoiler:

**AlexHolker**

Scarey Nerd wrote:It could mean no Ultramarines rather than no Marines. Roboute Guilliman was only the Primarch of one legion, after all.

Unpainted Ultramarines are exactly the same as unpainted Black Templars. And putting in a different colour of grey plastic Space Marines is not earth-shattering in even the most generous sense of the word.

**Scarey Nerd**

AlexHolker wrote:
Scarey Nerd wrote:It could mean no Ultramarines rather than no Marines. Roboute Guilliman was only the Primarch of one legion, after all.

Unpainted Ultramarines are exactly the same as unpainted Black Templars. And putting in a different colour of grey plastic Space Marines is not earth-shattering in even the most generous sense of the word.

But BA or SW would fit the bill quite nicely, which was my implication.

**nosferatu1001**

Not if BT have different iconography theyre not

**Ouze**

I'm telling you guys - Chaos Space Marines vs Chaos Daemons. You heard it here first.

**TyraelVladinhurst**

alright let's not discuss this new started box anymore in the necron thread

**Scarey Nerd**

OK, just finished Fall of Damnos.

Oh. My. God.

It's like they looked into my mind, took everything I wanted ni the next codex, and put it in a novel. If this is the direction of the new fluff, I approve whole-heartedly.

If the new codex were to be released in August, when would we get an Incoming! eMail?

**Kurgash**

I know this is stretching for beyond all hope but maybe this will be the codex Matt Ward won't feth up. Maybe, just maybe, he'll get things right. Still though, alot to hope for.

**AlexHolker**

Scarey Nerd wrote:If the new codex were to be released in August, when would we get an Incoming! eMail?

At the start of May.

**prime12357**

Kurgash wrote:I know this is stretching for beyond all hope but maybe this will be the codex Matt Ward won't feth up. Maybe, just maybe, he'll get things right. Still though, alot to hope for.

We can still dream. At least we'll probably get decent rules.

**asimo77**

Ward has some questionable fluff but it's not 100% bad. Usually his codexes have just 1-2 stories that are downright bad. The rest are just amatuerily (that even a word?) written at worst (namely all the gaint and "epic" battles/characters). The rest of the fluff is fine.

As for the rules they are generally solid and varied with only like a couple of oddballs that seem OP. Then again if everyone gets some codex creep than any OP'ness will balance out...theoretically.

**Ouze**

asimo77 wrote:Ward has some questionable fluff but it's not 100% bad.

**Fists of the emperor**

Any news on plastic ranges, I was wanting to start an army soon but not if the plastic warriors are going to be rescuplted, in which case I'll wait till they come out

**Scarey Nerd**

Fists of the emperor wrote:Any news on plastic ranges, I was wanting to start an army soon but not if the plastic warriors are going to be rescuplted, in which case I'll wait till they come out

I think it's almost certain that Warriors aren't being resculpted, unless they now come with an upgrades sprue.

**Azure**

Warriors, 'Liths and Destroyers are, atm, a pretty safe bet. Destroyers might come on a different sprue organization but they more then likely will not create entirely new models. Lords are also pretty safe

**Scarey Nerd**

From reading Fall of Damnos:

Spoiler:

**AlexHolker**

Fists of the emperor wrote:Any news on plastic ranges, I was wanting to start an army soon but not if the plastic warriors are going to be rescuplted, in which case I'll wait till they come out

Buy Battleforces now, that's my advice. They're a bargain at the moment, and if the Destroyer sprues get recut, it's safe to assume GW will replace it with a new, inferior Battleforce.

**Ouze**

AlexHolker wrote:
Fists of the emperor wrote:Any news on plastic ranges, I was wanting to start an army soon but not if the plastic warriors are going to be rescuplted, in which case I'll wait till they come out

Buy Battleforces now, that's my advice. They're a bargain at the moment, and if the Destroyer sprues get recut, it's safe to assume GW will replace it with a new, inferior Battleforce.

Well, technically every battleforce is a bargain, because they all come with more then $90 worth of stuff. I'm curious why you think a new battleforce would be worse, though. I don't know of any recent precedent for that.

**kenzosan**

Ouze wrote:
AlexHolker wrote:
Fists of the emperor wrote:Any news on plastic ranges, I was wanting to start an army soon but not if the plastic warriors are going to be rescuplted, in which case I'll wait till they come out

Buy Battleforces now, that's my advice. They're a bargain at the moment, and if the Destroyer sprues get recut, it's safe to assume GW will replace it with a new, inferior Battleforce.

Well, technically every battleforce is a bargain, because they all come with more then $90 worth of stuff. I'm curious why you think a new battleforce would be worse, though. I don't know of any recent precedent for that.

yea, but half the junk in there is...junk

**Ascalam**

Plus battleforce prices are creeping up. The Nid one is more than the others at my FLGS, but i forget by how much...

**Smitty0305**

o boy

**The Metal Tide**

I read a rumor that the basic Necron Warrior was getting a Toughness boost to 5. If this is the case then what would be the point of an Immortal. 'The gun' (Gauss Blaster) yes but if that was the case wouldn't you just make it a Warrior upgrade instead of a completely different model.