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Cheers mate, I've struggled getting the blu tac to work...maybe I'll give the liquid mask a go. Also of course, to copyyour weathering technique!

 Yggdrasil wrote:
Hey, thank you guys !!

Yeah, it was quite simple (though I put some thought into it beforehands ) :
- paint white ;
- use some masking tape to leave only a stripe visible ;
- apply some liquid mask with blister foam ;
- airbrush on top of everything ;
- remove tape, then brush off the liquid mask ;
- voilà !

Things I've learnt :
- The masking tape should be large enough, that the airbrush doesn't spray paint outside of it (see the brown paint on the downmost steps on the door ) ;
- The masking tape should be neatly applied, so that no paint can get under it (see the subdued "halo" on the right of the stripe, under the skull ; it also doesn't look strictly straight, but a bit bent... ) ;
- It would probably look better if the stripe was less "weathered", which means I should be less heavy on the liquid mask.

Thanks again for the positive comments

The stripe looks good, I had never heard of "liquid mask" before. Is there a particular brand you use, and is that it's actual name? I quite like that look

I've been using blue painter's tape for straight edges when airbrushing. It has worked very well for most colors, except pink... which I think the pink I have been using is just thinner than my other paints and is thus seeping under the edge a bit. Maybe masking tape is just as good, though

Think the most popular type of liquid mask is Maskol, produced by Humbrol.

San76 wrote:Cheers mate, I've struggled getting the blu tac to work...maybe I'll give the liquid mask a go. Also of course, to copyyour weathering technique!

Sure, you do that

RiTides wrote:
The stripe looks good, I had never heard of "liquid mask" before. Is there a particular brand you use, and is that it's actual name? I quite like that look

I've been using blue painter's tape for straight edges when airbrushing. It has worked very well for most colors, except pink... which I think the pink I have been using is just thinner than my other paints and is thus seeping under the edge a bit. Maybe masking tape is just as good, though

Well, the problem I had was that I hadn't cut the tape really straight, so it shows a bit on the stripe... Not a big deal, but hey

As for the "liquid mask", see below (thanks monkeytroll )

monkeytroll wrote:Think the most popular type of liquid mask is Maskol, produced by Humbrol.

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Aside from wishing a Merry Xmas to all of you (for those I haven't already), I just have to mention that my new Xmas toy, an iPad, allowed me to buy the Kill Team rules, and... They're definitely awesome !!!!

The price is a bit steep, but the rules are really fun !

We played a game with my friend Denis this morning, and it was fast-paced, intense, and we had some good laugh !

So that was a 200pts battle of Plague Marines vs. some Tau.

He fielded :
- 1 Rhino ;
- 5 Plague Marines : 1x Champion with Power Sword, 1x Meltagun, 1x Flamer.

I had :
- 6 Fire Warriors : 1x pulse rifle, 5x pulse carbines ;
- 6 Pathfinders + 1 Recon Drone : 1x Shas'ui, 2x rail rifles, 1x Ion rifle

So 6 strong, tough models against 12 frail fishmen with advanced tech and their drone !

Battlefield had large buildings, one in each corner and a huge relay station at the center.

The battle lasted 6 turns, and each turn yielded its fair share of heroic actions, disappointements, lucky FNP rolls !!!

MVM (Most Valuable Models) :
- Tau : a Pathfinder Specialist with Rail Rifle & the "Ignore Cover" USR, who killed the Plague Champion and the Meltagunner ;
- CSM : a stock Plague Marine, who survived the whole battle despite being fired upon each and every Tau turn, killed 2 Pathfinders with its Bolt Pistol (the ones he had planned to assault) AND last-turn seized an objective.

As for points :
- He got First Blood (a Fire Warrior killed at long range by the Aspiring Champion and its bolter during the first turn) and one objective, so 4 points ;
- I got Slay the Leader, Linebreaker, Force Broken (killed half his models), and 2 objectives, so 9 points.

TAU FTW !!!

I'll try and upload a few pics as soon as I have some time

Grats mate!

Love me some "KIllzone" It reminds me of back in the day of playing RT. Where every game objective was to kill everything. Ahhhh Memories!

I war reading the Killzone stuff and you're supposed to be able to get that on an iphone (which I have) but I haven't been able to find it on iTunes in order to download it. Sounds like a blast and something my kids would really enjoy.

San76 wrote:Grats mate!

Solar_lion wrote:Love me some "KIllzone" It reminds me of back in the day of playing RT. Where every game objective was to kill everything. Ahhhh Memories!

I boarded the train during 2nd Ed., so I don't really remember the RT days... But hey, 2nd Ed. was all about killing stuff too

Gitsplitta wrote:I war reading the Killzone stuff and you're supposed to be able to get that on an iphone (which I have) but I haven't been able to find it on iTunes in order to download it. Sounds like a blast and something my kids would really enjoy.

It's in the "iBooks store" on my iPad... in the Games Workshop Digital Editions store ...

I'll see what I can do, Gits.

Congrats on winning the Kill Teams game! The craters look great.

Also, I want to thank you for being an inspiration for my Tau I changed the color scheme again (silly of me), but I loved your weathering technique so much I had to use it myself!

Lucarikx

Gitsplitta wrote:I war reading the Killzone stuff and you're supposed to be able to get that on an iphone (which I have) but I haven't been able to find it on iTunes in order to download it. Sounds like a blast and something my kids would really enjoy.

Oh, and since I haven't pointed it out in my earlier post : the game was pretty fast to play !

Only 2 hours, without setup, but with a complimentary explanation of the Kill Team special rules to my sparring partner... So once you know the rules, I guess you can count no more than 3 hours for setup + game + cleaning up !!

Your kids, yourself AND YOUR WIFE will like Kill Team

Briancj wrote:I'll see what I can do, Gits.

Yeah, please help Old Grump... Friendly over there

Lucarikx wrote:Congrats on winning the Kill Teams game! The craters look great.

Also, I want to thank you for being an inspiration for my Tau I changed the color scheme again (silly of me), but I loved your weathering technique so much I had to use it myself!

Lucarikx

Hey thanks !!!
Are the results up for show on your Plog ?

Old grump? Old grump!

...

Well, O.K. Maybe.



(Thanks Brian!)

Well, I wanted to express the hesitation and changing from "Grumpy" to "Friendly", but it's hard to convene with writing...

No hard feelings, uh

None ever my friend. No worries. Jibes are welcome and fully appreciated.

TBH... I wasn't worried

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In addition, Denis & I have settled on our new Hobb-jective (see what I did there ? ) : Build & Paint a complete Kill Team for March !

That leaves me open to a lot of options... 200 points for almost any army is like 5 to 20 models, so I can just go crazy on them...

Here's what I thought of so far :
- Night Lords Raptors ;
- Nurgle Renegades (with IG rules) ;
- Ork Kommandos ;
- Tau Stealt Suits ;
- Space Wolves (Like Thunderwolf, Lone Wolf, Wolf Guard) ;
- Pre-Heresy Iron Hands

Any other idea ?

Heresy Era Custodians.

Or Filthy Star Phantoms.

Maybe a Crisis suit squad? Or... if you do Night Lords, you could do Talos and First Claw from the ADB books.

Lucarikx

IceAngel wrote:Heresy Era Custodians.

Or Filthy Star Phantoms.

Well, I'm not THAT into the Custodian Guard's aesthetics... Plus, what set of rules could I use ???
And Kill Team doesn't allow for 2+ armour saves, while I'm sure they all have "Artificer Armour"

But of course, I had forgotten to mention my yet-to-live Star Phantoms !! That's of course another possibility (and the new SM books allows for Grav Guns, which would be terrific in Kill Teams )

Lucarikx wrote:Maybe a Crisis suit squad? Or... if you do Night Lords, you could do Talos and First Claw from the ADB books.

Lucarikx

Well that's an option too... I'm really fond of First Claw (though I've yet to read part 2 & 3 of the trilogy, Soul Hunter and a few BL short stories really set my mind on fire !!! )

Ok, so here's what I'm thinking for the first list :

Star Phantom Sternguards, 200pts :

6 Sternguards :
- Vet Sgt ;
- Heavy Flamer ;
- Heavy Bolter (Specialist : Relentless) ;
- Combi-plasma ;
- Combi-melta ;
- No-upgrade Marine.

That leaves me with 18 points to spare... As the Sternguards already have their "Special Issue Ammo", I'm thinking about adding an assault weapon to the Sergeant...
Lightning Claw seems great so far, as he'll get no additional attack from the Boltgun anyway, so it's better than a Power Sword for the same price, and Kill Team prevents 2+ armour saves, so I shouldn't need the AP2 Axe...
What do you guys think ? LC, or something else ? (I could also drop the 6th Marine which would leave me 40 points to spare for the Sergeant )

Also, still undecided on what Specialist traits I want for my two other skills... Any suggestion ?

I like the list! I'm not sure about the Heavy Flamer, though. Maybe another Heavy Bolter so you can give him SnP?

Also, a LC would be pretty nice on the Sergeant.

Lucarikx

Well, a Heavy Flamer can be pretty useful in small scale games, as it allows you to avoid a "To Hit" roll.... And in Kill Team, every dice roll you can avoid is the way to success !
Plus, he'll be pretty scary and will probably create a bubble of "I don't want to come close, so let's shoot at him" - which the rest of the team should handle pretty well

As for the Specialist, you cannot have twice the same skill, or even take 2 skills from the same "skill tree", so another Heavy weapon would be tough to handle well... Except for a HFlamer !

I love Kill Team. Only played it once but it was a blast.

You could give the sarge FNP to help him survive in combat if his luck runs out.

Or the Heavy Flamer trooper, since he's probably going to attract a lot of incomming lead n' lazors.

 Gitsplitta wrote:
I love Kill Team. Only played it once but it was a blast.

Yeah, today I had my second game of Kill Team, and it definitely IS a blast !!

A quick Batrep of the first battle (Plague Marines vs. Tau)
We play the first mission of the Kill Team supplement. Basically, that's "shoot, engage, capture"
We deploy 24" from each other, and I use my Scout movements to get better firing positions (in buildings mostly) . I get to play first.
The 3 objectives are in a diagonal line : 1 in his building on the top-left, 1 in the central building, 1 in my building on the right.

Kill Teams :
Tau (The Rising Sun) : 6 Fire Warriors (one with Pulse Rifle), 6 Pathfinders (Shas'ui = Leader, 2 Rail Rifles, 1 Ion Rifle), 1 Recon Drone.
Plague Marines : 5 Plague Marines (Champion w/ Power Sword = Leader, Meltagun, Flamer), Rhino.

Tau deployment : My Pathfinders with Marker lights are on each flank, with the center held by the Fire Warriors. Left flank has a Ion Rifle & Rail Rifle, right flank has Recon Drone (sporting a Burst Cannon) & a Rail Rifle).
Plague Marine deployment : My opponent chooses to only embark his special weapons inside the Rhino, the other 3 Plague Marines go on foot.

TURN 1

(Pics show the start of the Tau Turn)

Tau : My heavy weapons (Ion rifle & Rail Rifle) on the left each take 1HP off the Rhino, and that's pretty much it. The rest of my Kill Team shoot at the Marines, but FNP is too strong, despite my 3 markerlights finding their mark.
CSM : He gets "First Blood" with his Plague Champion that snipes a lone Fire Warrior with his boltgun. My Recon Drone loses 1W due to bolter fire on the right.

TURN 2

Tau : The Ion Rifle removes the last HP of the Rhino, and gets a "Crew Shaken" result (meh). The left Rail Rifle kills the Meltagunner that disembarks from the wreck (far less meh).
CSM : All move forward, shooting does nothing.

TURN 3

Tau : My left Rail Rifle kills the Plague Champion in cover (good thing the Pathfinder's skill was "Ignore Cover" ). I get "Slay the Leader" and "Break the Force" (3 models destroyed out of 6). Two Fire Warriors leave the cover of their building, and cross the no man's land in order to capture the objective on the left.
CSM : Due to some bad positioning on my part, the Plague Flamer manages to catch two FW with his flamer ! Luckily, his wounding throw yields a "double 1", so no Tau gets harmed.

TURN 4

Tau : The Recon Drone (barely) kills the Flamer-toting Marine. My left flank completely secured, my heavy weapons climb down to support their comrades on the right !
CSM : The two Marines on the right, having survived unscathed their trek across the battlefield, come into charge range of my right flank. Before charging, his Marine shoots his Bolt Pistol at a Pathfinder on the first floor, and.... kills it, preventing him from charging ! Still a kill though (and a Markerlight down for me :( )

TURNS 5 & 6

Tau : I capture Objectives Left & Middle. My Recon Drone jetpacks to his deployment zone to score "Linebreaker"
CSM : The Plague Marine in the street shoots at my Rail Rifle on the right with his Bolt Pistol (again), and I forget that he was my Tau was the Stealth Specialist ! As a consequence, even with Going to Ground, he dies punctured by a mass-reactive shell. Pistolier Plague Marine doesn't get to charge again ! In the last turn, nothing prevents him from seizing the objective.

Results :
Objectives : Tau 2 / Plague Marines 1
Secondary Objectives : Tau "Slay the leader", "Line Breaker", "Force Broken" / Plague Marine "First Blood".
Total : Tau 9 / Plague Marines 4 !!!

That was a lot of fun to play, with lots of heroism, failed attempts, epic fails. We both had our lucky strokes (I think I hit 9 times out of 10 markerlight shots, he passed more than half his FNP rolls), and our bad luck !

Things we learned :
- JetPack models are insanely fast & flexible (the infamous "jump-shoot-jump" ;
- Codex entries with a lot of heavy / special weapons (Tau Pathfinders, Plague Marines) give a huge advantage in Kill Team (Sternguards, DE "Elite" Kabalites, Nobz, should perform nicely) ;
- Vehicles may have their uses, but are a huge point sink on 200pts, even the humble Rhino ;
- It's easy to forget about Specialist Skills, even if there are only three of them !
- Table should be loaded with scenery to make for an even more awesome game

We liked it so much that we played another game today, 1 versus 2.... Interested in a few pics ?

GiraffeX wrote:You could give the sarge FNP to help him survive in combat if his luck runs out.

Kill Team leaders do not get a Skill... But they get a special "Warlord" trait

Well, admittedly, one of the "warlord trait" is a Specialist Skill... But you cannot count on that !

STC_LogisEngine wrote:Or the Heavy Flamer trooper, since he's probably going to attract a lot of incomming lead n' lazors.

Hey, that might be a good idea, actually ! But FNP & Relentless are in the same "Skill Tree", sadly
And I think that the HB needs Relentless more than the other one needs FNP

How about "Move through cover" for the HF ?

Sounds wonderfully fun. Played my first game with Thing 1 this afternoon, have another game with Thing 2 scheduled for tonight. I'll take pics. Good Lord you should see the army he picked.

Cool! Thanks for the batrep. I can't wait to try the new kill team rules. Great looking Tau btw.

Gitsplitta wrote:Sounds wonderfully fun. Played my first game with Thing 1 this afternoon, have another game with Thing 2 scheduled for tonight. I'll take pics. Good Lord you should see the army he picked.

So, how did it go ? What did he pick ?!?

IceAngel wrote:Cool! Thanks for the batrep. I can't wait to try the new kill team rules. Great looking Tau btw.

Yeah. Those are worth the extra quids
And thx

I'll post pics of yesterday's battle a bit later...

30 gaunts and a hive guard. Tabled me by the end of HIS turn 2 (he went first, so I didn't even get 2 moves in).

sounds awesome Ygg and the tau looked great on the battlefield. definitely got to get a game of this.

sorry to hear bout your match gits.