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You do realise even GW don't like the idea.of ignoring Invuls? Nightbringer, Deciever and Psycannons, Incinerators all did that. Ward fixed that when he revamped both dexes. They seem to prefer forcing you to reroll successes. Try that and remove the 2 CCW bit.
So something more like this?
me wrote:
Necron Overlord Cirrus..........................................................................................................225pnts
Dedicated Transport:
May select a Catacomb Command Barge as a
dedicated transport
Wargear:
- Veil of Shadows*
- Phase Shifter
- Tachyon Arrow
- Shadowrend**
- Icon of Unlife***
- Sempiternal Weave
Special Rules:
- Ever-Living
- Hit & Run*
- Reanimation Protocols
* Veil of Shadows
A special veil of Darkness that allows Cirrus to shroud him self in shadows giving him the ability to evade even the most well aimed shot or the most skillful blow as well as suprise his opponent in close combatwith attacks launched from the billowing darkness, or even quickly withdraw before the enemy even realizes he's gone.
In addition to acting as a standard veil of darkness, this war gear also confers hit&run USR to Cirrus and any squad he joins. Also during the Intiative tests for Sweeping advance and Hit&Run withdraws count Cirrus's Intiative as 2 higher.
** Shadowrend
A war scythe with blades on each end, Shadowrend is a near mythical weapon, commonly dismissed as fairy tails and fanciful stories by most Necron lords, was made with a portion of The Nightbringer's necrodermis. Crafted by the Crypteks of the Death's Hand Legion for Cirrus after the Bio-Transference. In it is the power to sunder tanks and dice infantry with a single slash. Nothing can protect from the indestructible monomolecular phased blade of Shadowrend, Nothing.
Attacks made with Shadowrend are resolved with a plus two strength bounus. Additionally, hits with Shadowrend roll 2D6 for armor penetration. Armor saves are not permitted against wounds made by Shadowrend 'and Invulnerable saves must be rerolled if successful.
*** Icon of Unlife
A powerful artifact that was crafted during the beginning of the Bio-transference,it utilized nano-scarabs to provide a boost to Cirrus's self repair system.
Cirrus always makes RP/Everliving rolls as a 4+, if a 4 is rolled set him back up with one wound as normal, If a 5 is rolled set him back up with 2 wounds remaining, and if a 6 is rolled set Cirrus back up with 3 wounds remaining.
It's too much. Something should go. Even at 225 points, and not confering too much to his army, the man is hard to kill and easy to bring back after death.
Five attacks, six on the charge, all power weapons, that force re-rolled invulnerable saves, and 2d6AP, nearly every turn this model, single-handedly, could be murdering high cost models the enemy has. Anything he can go toe-toe with, i.e. other special characters, may get the better of him the first run-in, but not once he gets back up. He will not only earn his points back, 225 for a single model that doesn't boost an army is expensive, but he may very well almost earn double his points back every game if used well, if used poorly still earning his points back, which is not so cool. A model used poorly, should perform poorly, (not counting SC's in Wolves or GK...as those are specifically like that to market towards new players...I presume...)
Sorry, I like the idea, but some of these abilities need to be stripped. Or some negatives needed to be added. Give some of these ideas to another character, this guy seems like two characters put into one.
“We are the ones you left for dead. The ones you left in the ground. Buried and forgotten, we have tunneled our ways to the stars, and there will be no dirt nor cave where you can hide. The Dwellar are here.”
Dwellar Codex; 40k Dwarfs
“Well, what do you carry the gun for if you’re just going to waste bullets?” Timer reloads his Boomer as Forling fires his Shrapper.
“I may ‘ne be a good shot Timer, but I don’t miss much from this close up with my hammer,” Forling continues to fire.
“All the enemies are good and far away so what the hell does that…” Timer looks up to see Forling giving him an angry stare. “Oh, yea, ok, um, good shooting.”
Wargear: power armour, bolt pistol, bolter, combat knife, frag and krak grenades, melta bombs, defensive grenades
Advanced targeting: All ranged weapons are twin-linked
Silencers: All ranged weapons are pinning
Special Rules: ATSKNF, Stealth, Scout, Infiltrate
Combat Squads: the squad may divide into 2 combat squads, one consisting of Omegon and 9 legionnaires, the other consisting of the Sergeant and 9 legionnaires.
Primarch(Omegon only): Strikes as a Monstrous Creature, Has Feel No Pain and EW.
My main problem is this...umm...don't open the spoiler if you haven't finished the book. DO NOT OPEN IT IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE BOOK.
Spoiler:
Its not Omegon...He's not as good as Omegon is, and while he shares some of the powers, they fade by the end and he's just who he is, i.e. not a primarch. So he shouldn't be EW, MC in CC, etc.
I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules:
Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear:
Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly.
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Wargear: power armour, bolt pistol, bolter, combat knife, frag and krak grenades, melta bombs, defensive grenades
Advanced targeting: All ranged weapons are twin-linked
Silencers: All ranged weapons are pinning
Special Rules: ATSKNF, Stealth, Scout, Infiltrate
Combat Squads: the squad may divide into 2 combat squads, one consisting of Omegon and 9 legionnaires, the other consisting of the Sergeant and 9 legionnaires.
Primarch(Omegon only): Strikes as a Monstrous Creature, Has Feel No Pain and EW.
My main problem is this...umm...don't open the spoiler if you haven't finished the book. DO NOT OPEN IT IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE BOOK.
Spoiler:
Its not Omegon...He's not as good as Omegon is, and while he shares some of the powers, they fade by the end and he's just who he is, i.e. not a primarch. So he shouldn't be EW, MC in CC, etc.
Spoiler:
THis isn't representing Setrebo's squad that took down Tenebrae. Yes I know that was Ranko. What I'm representing here is Omegon's ACTUAL stealth squad, which makes an appearance when Omegon stalks the Magos earlier in the book
Glory to the Twelfth! Glory to Angron!
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—Captain Khârn of the World Eaters Legion's 8th Assault Company, from his unpublished treatise The Eighteen Legions
Ah. Then proceed. I was just worried it was meant to be the squad carrying out the assault. I quite like it then. But then I love all things alpha legion, so I am massively, massively biased
I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules:
Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear:
Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly
I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules:
Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear:
Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly
I can only hope you're joking.
God I don't know how I missed that. Mate please say you're fething with us. Because that, umm, monstrosity that shall not be named, is about 700 points undercoated. not to mention you cannot exceed 10 on stats. ANd your fluff is atrocious. You're obviously a tyrannid collector on crack. DO you even play the game mate? I'd play against a million things that ignore invulnerable saves rather than that. Seriously, this is so bad I can scarcely believe my eyes. The amount of gak that you are full of is unbelievable. I don't normally make personal attacks but i'll make an exception here. This so mind-blowingly bad I might not be able to sleep tonight thinking of this monstrosity you have written. I wouldn't play against this if you made it 10,000 points
Ah ok you just posted that you're joking thank god I have peace now
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Glory to the Twelfth! Glory to Angron!
"Because we couldn’t be trusted. The Emperor needed a weapon that would never obey its own desires before those of the Imperium. He needed a weapon that would never bite the hand that feeds. The World Eaters were not that weapon. We’ve all drawn blades purely for the sake of shedding blood, and we’ve all felt the exultation of winning a war that never even needed to happen. We are not the tame, reliable pets that the Emperor wanted. The Wolves obey, when we would not. The Wolves can be trusted, when we never could. They have a discipline we lack, because their passions are not aflame with the Butcher’s Nails buzzing in the back of their skulls. The Wolves will always come to heel when called. In that regard, it is a mystery why they name themselves wolves. They are tame, collared by the Emperor, obeying his every whim. But a wolf doesn’t behave that way. Only a dog does. That is why we are the Eaters of Worlds, and the War Hounds no longer."
—Captain Khârn of the World Eaters Legion's 8th Assault Company, from his unpublished treatise The Eighteen Legions
Frozen Ocean wrote:I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules:
Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear:
Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly.
See that stuff in red, I did this , I did it again as I read it to make it red and say I did this However, i agree about ignoring invulnerable saves (though there is a situation where something in my personal codex does it...i.e. rolling a 6 to wound with a scimitar of the troor which can only be equiped on a warrior of the troor and it's a 100point model without EW.) I found when playtesting what made players more upset was having to re-roll their succesful saves. I think things that ignore invulnerable should just be few and far between, and be very limited in a codex. VERY limited. (...very...very...limited.)
“We are the ones you left for dead. The ones you left in the ground. Buried and forgotten, we have tunneled our ways to the stars, and there will be no dirt nor cave where you can hide. The Dwellar are here.”
Dwellar Codex; 40k Dwarfs
“Well, what do you carry the gun for if you’re just going to waste bullets?” Timer reloads his Boomer as Forling fires his Shrapper.
“I may ‘ne be a good shot Timer, but I don’t miss much from this close up with my hammer,” Forling continues to fire.
“All the enemies are good and far away so what the hell does that…” Timer looks up to see Forling giving him an angry stare. “Oh, yea, ok, um, good shooting.”
Frozen Ocean wrote:I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules: Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear: Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly.
See that stuff in red, I did this , I did it again as I read it to make it red and say I did this However, i agree about ignoring invulnerable saves (though there is a situation where something in my personal codex does it...i.e. rolling a 6 to wound with a scimitar of the troor which can only be equiped on a warrior of the troor and it's a 100point model without EW.) I found when playtesting what made players more upset was having to re-roll their succesful saves. I think things that ignore invulnerable should just be few and far between, and be very limited in a codex. VERY limited. (...very...very...limited.)
I'm quite alright with only having weapons that make them reroll successful invuls, I don't want anything more as it'd feel unfair.
That being said, this guy is hilarious XD I like the Double Monstrous Creature bit lol
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CalasTyphon216 wrote:
Coolyo294 wrote:
Frozen Ocean wrote:
Spoiler:
I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules: Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear: Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly
I can only hope you're joking.
God I don't know how I missed that. Mate please say you're fething with us. Because that, umm, monstrosity that shall not be named, is about 700 points undercoated. not to mention you cannot exceed 10 on stats. ANd your fluff is atrocious. You're obviously a tyrannid collector on crack. DO you even play the game mate? I'd play against a million things that ignore invulnerable saves rather than that. Seriously, this is so bad I can scarcely believe my eyes. The amount of gak that you are full of is unbelievable. I don't normally make personal attacks but i'll make an exception here. This so mind-blowingly bad I might not be able to sleep tonight thinking of this monstrosity you have written. I wouldn't play against this if you made it 10,000 points
Ah ok you just posted that you're joking thank god I have peace now
It was pretty easily obvious, I don't know who would believe it haha, although that says a lot about the over-the-topness of some of the characters in this thread that are indeed seriously proposed, like that divinity save crap I saw a while back
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Frozen Ocean wrote:I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules:
Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear:
Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly.
Frozen Ocean wrote:I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules: Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear: Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly.
I've highlighted the problems with it...
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Frozen Ocean wrote:I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules:
Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear:
Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly.
Frozen Ocean wrote:I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules:
Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear:
Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly.
I've highlighted the problems with it...
no no, his was satire as well. WHAT IS WITH PEOPLE AND MISSING SATIRE?
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Frozen Ocean wrote:I utterly despise the idea of ignoring invulnerable saves. Know why? Because they're the saves that can't be ignored, that's the point in them! First you get "this ignores invulnerables", then you'll get invulnerables that ignore things that ignore invulnerables, and it becomes a stupid mess.
Special Rules:
Synapse Creature (48"), Fearless, Feel No Pain, Spirit Leech, Double Monstrous Creature, Psyker, Fleet, Eternal Warrior.
Wargear:
Bonephasekatana: Crafted by the finest Necron and Eldar craftsmen, the BPK is an instant death power weapon. When the Tyrantlord causes a wound in close combat, pick any model within 10". That model immediately explodes, creating a Str 6 AP2 large blast at their death point. This cannot hurt the Tyrantlord.
The Supreme Tyrantlord Prime is a half-Hive Tyrant half-Carnifex half-Trygon Prime. It was abandoned by its parent, the Swarmlord, as a small spawnling. It was found by the Eldar, who adopted the small Hormagaunt-like creature as their own. He quickly grew, learning every psychic power the Eldar know, and becoming Autarch, Farseer, and Exarch of every Aspect within two years. Unfortunately, the Craftworld was destroyed when it crashed into an Ultramarine. Swearing revenge, the Tyrantlord created Hive Fleet Behemoth and sent them at Macragge, but it didn't work because he was too busy adventuring through the Warp and defeating Slaanesh single-handedly.
I've highlighted the problems with it...
no no, his was satire as well. WHAT IS WITH PEOPLE AND MISSING SATIRE?
clearly this is a case of sarchasm
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I'm... utterly shocked at how many of you believed that was serious. I collect Tyranids, yes, which you can tell from my signature. I've been in the game for years, CalasTyphon! I am also an admin of a roleplaying site. I've seen my fair share of atrociously Mary Sue profiles in my time. That was the point of the stupid fluff and stats, especially "Double" Monstrous Creature. I ticked all the boxes! The character is obscenely powerful and yet cheap (because he's the bestest ever!), he's the child of the Swarmlord (lol that doesn't even make sense, double Sue factor!), is a half- of many things, none of which even breed! Raised by Eldar, another Mary Sue crack. The katana, as well - come on, don't you know of the rule? Katanas and desert eagles, especially dual-wielded, are part of the Mary Sue code of coolduct.
@Titan Atlas, Chrisrawr: I appreciate the appreciation! Good to see that people know satire when they see it.
EDIT: Overall, I was mocking powergamers. Not necessarily in a 40k sense; as I said, I admin an RP site. People will attempt to give their characters an obscene backstory of 'coolness', even if it makes no sense at all (Super Hive Tyrant raised by Eldar? And you thought I was serious?), and attempt to get ridiculous powers so they can have their character steamroll every other character in the RP with their sheer awesomeness (read: derp).
OP: I wasn't mocking your special character idea, though. I was just being silly.
EDIT2: How can a Tyranid bioweapon be crafted by Eldar and Necron craftsmen? Nevermind somehow made out of bone and necrodermis? Okay, maybe the 'bone' referred to wraithbone... but still!
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Frozen Ocean wrote:I'm... utterly shocked at how many of you believed that was serious. I collect Tyranids, yes, which you can tell from my signature. I've been in the game for years, CalasTyphon! I am also an admin of a roleplaying site. I've seen my fair share of atrociously Mary Sue profiles in my time. That was the point of the stupid fluff and stats, especially "Double" Monstrous Creature. I ticked all the boxes! The character is obscenely powerful and yet cheap (because he's the bestest ever!), he's the child of the Swarmlord (lol that doesn't even make sense, double Sue factor!), is a half- of many things, none of which even breed! Raised by Eldar, another Mary Sue crack. The katana, as well - come on, don't you know of the rule? Katanas and desert eagles, especially dual-wielded, are part of the Mary Sue code of coolduct.
@Titan Atlas, Chrisrawr: I appreciate the appreciation! Good to see that people know satire when they see it.
EDIT: Overall, I was mocking powergamers. Not necessarily in a 40k sense; as I said, I admin an RP site. People will attempt to give their characters an obscene backstory of 'coolness', even if it makes no sense at all (Super Hive Tyrant raised by Eldar? And you thought I was serious?), and attempt to get ridiculous powers so they can have their character steamroll every other character in the RP with their sheer awesomeness (read: derp).
OP: I wasn't mocking your special character idea, though. I was just being silly.
EDIT2: How can a Tyranid bioweapon be crafted by Eldar and Necron craftsmen? Nevermind somehow made out of bone and necrodermis? Okay, maybe the 'bone' referred to wraithbone... but still!
My apologies, I was very very drunk and very very tired
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/05/31 22:52:20
Glory to the Twelfth! Glory to Angron!
"Because we couldn’t be trusted. The Emperor needed a weapon that would never obey its own desires before those of the Imperium. He needed a weapon that would never bite the hand that feeds. The World Eaters were not that weapon. We’ve all drawn blades purely for the sake of shedding blood, and we’ve all felt the exultation of winning a war that never even needed to happen. We are not the tame, reliable pets that the Emperor wanted. The Wolves obey, when we would not. The Wolves can be trusted, when we never could. They have a discipline we lack, because their passions are not aflame with the Butcher’s Nails buzzing in the back of their skulls. The Wolves will always come to heel when called. In that regard, it is a mystery why they name themselves wolves. They are tame, collared by the Emperor, obeying his every whim. But a wolf doesn’t behave that way. Only a dog does. That is why we are the Eaters of Worlds, and the War Hounds no longer."
—Captain Khârn of the World Eaters Legion's 8th Assault Company, from his unpublished treatise The Eighteen Legions
Frozen Ocean wrote:I'm... utterly shocked at how many of you believed that was serious. I collect Tyranids, yes, which you can tell from my signature. I've been in the game for years, CalasTyphon! I am also an admin of a roleplaying site. I've seen my fair share of atrociously Mary Sue profiles in my time. That was the point of the stupid fluff and stats, especially "Double" Monstrous Creature. I ticked all the boxes! The character is obscenely powerful and yet cheap (because he's the bestest ever!), he's the child of the Swarmlord (lol that doesn't even make sense, double Sue factor!), is a half- of many things, none of which even breed! Raised by Eldar, another Mary Sue crack. The katana, as well - come on, don't you know of the rule? Katanas and desert eagles, especially dual-wielded, are part of the Mary Sue code of coolduct.
@Titan Atlas, Chrisrawr: I appreciate the appreciation! Good to see that people know satire when they see it.
EDIT: Overall, I was mocking powergamers. Not necessarily in a 40k sense; as I said, I admin an RP site. People will attempt to give their characters an obscene backstory of 'coolness', even if it makes no sense at all (Super Hive Tyrant raised by Eldar? And you thought I was serious?), and attempt to get ridiculous powers so they can have their character steamroll every other character in the RP with their sheer awesomeness (read: derp).
OP: I wasn't mocking your special character idea, though. I was just being silly.
EDIT2: How can a Tyranid bioweapon be crafted by Eldar and Necron craftsmen? Nevermind somehow made out of bone and necrodermis? Okay, maybe the 'bone' referred to wraithbone... but still!
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Titon, he who is called Devourer, First Captain of the World Eaters Legion
Type: Infantry (unique)
225 points
WS6 BS5 S5 T4 W4 I5 A5 Ld9 Sv3+
Wargear: power armour, frag and krak grenades, boltgun, bolt pistol
The Black Axes: 2 power weapons. Gives +D3 attacks and +1 Strength, rolled separately every round.
Special Rules: Fearless, Furious Charge
Blessed by Khorne: 4+ invulnerable save and immunity to psychic powers and force weapons
Unrelenting slaughter: Gains additional attacks equivalent to the number of models killed in the previous round of combat
Glory to the Twelfth! Glory to Angron!
"Because we couldn’t be trusted. The Emperor needed a weapon that would never obey its own desires before those of the Imperium. He needed a weapon that would never bite the hand that feeds. The World Eaters were not that weapon. We’ve all drawn blades purely for the sake of shedding blood, and we’ve all felt the exultation of winning a war that never even needed to happen. We are not the tame, reliable pets that the Emperor wanted. The Wolves obey, when we would not. The Wolves can be trusted, when we never could. They have a discipline we lack, because their passions are not aflame with the Butcher’s Nails buzzing in the back of their skulls. The Wolves will always come to heel when called. In that regard, it is a mystery why they name themselves wolves. They are tame, collared by the Emperor, obeying his every whim. But a wolf doesn’t behave that way. Only a dog does. That is why we are the Eaters of Worlds, and the War Hounds no longer."
—Captain Khârn of the World Eaters Legion's 8th Assault Company, from his unpublished treatise The Eighteen Legions
The way that reads is, Str 7 on the charge with 6-8 attacks + however many models died in the previous combat... Which is way too vague to not be abusable.
If you clarify it to kills caused by Titon, then being he's not a IC it should be alright.
CalasTyphon216 wrote:Titon, he who is called Devourer, First Captain of the World Eaters Legion
Type: Infantry (unique)
225 points
WS6 BS5 S5 T4 W4 I5 A5 Ld9 Sv3+
Wargear: power armour, frag and krak grenades, boltgun, bolt pistol
The Black Axes: 2 power weapons. Gives +D3 attacks and +1 Strength, rolled separately every round.
Special Rules: Fearless, Furious Charge, Independent Character
Blessed by Khorne: 4+ invulnerable save and immunity to psychic powers and force weapons
Unrelenting slaughter: Gains additional attacks equivalent to the number of models Titon killed in the previous round of combat.
Edited
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Glory to the Twelfth! Glory to Angron!
"Because we couldn’t be trusted. The Emperor needed a weapon that would never obey its own desires before those of the Imperium. He needed a weapon that would never bite the hand that feeds. The World Eaters were not that weapon. We’ve all drawn blades purely for the sake of shedding blood, and we’ve all felt the exultation of winning a war that never even needed to happen. We are not the tame, reliable pets that the Emperor wanted. The Wolves obey, when we would not. The Wolves can be trusted, when we never could. They have a discipline we lack, because their passions are not aflame with the Butcher’s Nails buzzing in the back of their skulls. The Wolves will always come to heel when called. In that regard, it is a mystery why they name themselves wolves. They are tame, collared by the Emperor, obeying his every whim. But a wolf doesn’t behave that way. Only a dog does. That is why we are the Eaters of Worlds, and the War Hounds no longer."
—Captain Khârn of the World Eaters Legion's 8th Assault Company, from his unpublished treatise The Eighteen Legions
CalasTyphon216 wrote:Titon, he who is called Devourer, First Captain of the World Eaters Legion
Type: Infantry (unique)
225 points
WS6 BS5 S5 T4 W4 I5 A5 Ld9 Sv3+
Wargear: power armour, frag and krak grenades, boltgun, bolt pistol
The Black Axes: 2 power weapons. Gives +D3 attacks and +1 Strength, rolled separately every round.
Special Rules: Fearless, Furious Charge, Independent Character
Blessed by Khorne: 4+ invulnerable save and immunity to psychic powers and force weapons
Unrelenting slaughter: Gains additional attacks equivalent to the number of models Titon killed in the previous round of combat.
Edited
Actually on the charge he gets 8-10 attacks on the charge. Base 5 + 1 for 2 CCW + 1 for charge + 1-3 for special weapon = 8-10
Pretty ridiculous... base attacks should be lowered to 3 if you want all the extra goodies. A possible 19 attacks without any draw backs?
Time for the breakdown!
Chaos Lord = 90 points
+1S = +10 points
+1W = +10-15 points
+2A = +20 points
-1 LD = -5 points
4++ (from 5+)= +10 points
immunity to Psychic powers and Force weapons = +10 points
Power weapon = +15 points
+1 S weapon = +10 points
+d3 A weapon = +15 points
Furious Charge = +10-15 points
Unrelenting Slaughter = +25 points
So the bare minimum cost is 220, somewould say 235. I'd bump him up with homebrew tax to 250, he's just got an unbelievable amount of attacks and S7 I6 on the charge... At least he doesn't have Eternal Warrior!
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4500 Points
3500 (1500 painting, using Lizardmen models) http://imgur.com/a/Y28Fw#0 3000 Points of Heralds of Arcadia (Space Marines)
I rethinkered Captain #5601, a lot, giving him custom orders and a few goodies, not sure of the price, thinking about 90 points, he'd be an upgrade for the Company Commander.
A bit of lore: thje 6th Company of the 5th Krieg regiment is one of the veteran companies from the siege of Vraks, as such, its Vraks bear more Grenadiers and other veterans than most companies, the commanding officer, 5601 has been drawn from these veterans and kept most of his old Watchmaster gear as he took on his Captain duties, the great number of veterans allowed him to try out new strategies.
The vox system allows 5601 to send his order 6'' further, 12'' if the squad has a vox caster of their own (the leadership roll cannot be re-rolled in this case)
Special rules: Veteran company, 2 new orders ''They are already dead'' and ''Grenadiers, form rank! Fire at will!'', Senior Officer, Iron Discipline, Die Hards, Hardened Fighters (the last 3 rules are standard for any Krieg soldider find them here: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/k/kreig.pdf)
Veteran company: Grenadiers maybe taken as troops, the veterans of the Company Command squad have the same gear as a standard Grenadiers
''They are already dead'': The unit who received this order may fire at units locked in melee, shots that miss are resolved agaisnt friendly troops, all normal saves apply.
''Grenadiers, form rank! Fire at will!'': This works the same as FRFSRF but for Grenadiers, it affects the following weapons: Hotshot lasgun/laspistol, grenade launcher and heavy stubber.
Quick comparison to Creed: Can give 2 orders to Creed 4, can potentially reach 24'' just as Creed, his single hotshot laspistol is MC (count as twin linked, right? or did memory failed again), however he gets a power sword and +1 WS, also custom orders. No tactical genius sheninagans, but there's the FoC sheninagans.
Falkus Kibre, Widowmaker, Captain of the Justaerin, Black Legion
Type: Infantry (unique)
195 points
WS6 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I5 A3 Ld10 Sv2+
Wargear: Terminator armour, power fist
Malediction: This is an archaic bolter that fires with the following profile: Range 30 S6 AP2 Heavy 4 Get's Hot
Special Rules: Fearless, Independent Character
Justaerin: For 5 points per model, 1 squad of terminators must gain +1 WS and BS. THey must also all purchase the Champion upgrade, and carry an icon of chaos glory. all other upgrades may be selected as normal. Falkus must join this unit before the start of the game and can never leave it. While in the unit, he loses the Independent Character special rule.
Glory to the Twelfth! Glory to Angron!
"Because we couldn’t be trusted. The Emperor needed a weapon that would never obey its own desires before those of the Imperium. He needed a weapon that would never bite the hand that feeds. The World Eaters were not that weapon. We’ve all drawn blades purely for the sake of shedding blood, and we’ve all felt the exultation of winning a war that never even needed to happen. We are not the tame, reliable pets that the Emperor wanted. The Wolves obey, when we would not. The Wolves can be trusted, when we never could. They have a discipline we lack, because their passions are not aflame with the Butcher’s Nails buzzing in the back of their skulls. The Wolves will always come to heel when called. In that regard, it is a mystery why they name themselves wolves. They are tame, collared by the Emperor, obeying his every whim. But a wolf doesn’t behave that way. Only a dog does. That is why we are the Eaters of Worlds, and the War Hounds no longer."
—Captain Khârn of the World Eaters Legion's 8th Assault Company, from his unpublished treatise The Eighteen Legions
Facesnatcha is Nobchoppa's pet Jungle tree squig with a fearsome habit of aiming for his preys face. Nobchoppa keeps his pet concealed beneath his make-shift robe, ready to snap at any opportune moment.
When in combat with an enemy unit, Nobchoppa may use Facesnatcha to allow a single one of his attacks to be made at initiative 7, rather than at initiative 1.
Guerilla Fighta:
Nobchoppa is an expert in fighting in many environments, utilising his surroundings to his advantage.
When assaulting or being assaulted whilst Nobchoppa and his unit is in cover, they all count as having assault and defensive grenades. Furthermore, when being shot at, if Nobchoppa and his unit have gone to ground they add a further +1 to their cover save (To a maximum of 2+)
, I did it again as I read it to make it red and say I did this 
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