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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/01 22:58:48
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hey, it's Grimdark enough for the guard now!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/01 23:23:28
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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Ha, yeah - that was my thoughts with the patches
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/01 23:48:14
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Damn shame  I feel your pain, however the riveted plates are more in keeping with 40k plus adds to the battle damage look
Or you could just give it to me for my Orks
Hey did you just estimate the scaling or did you use reference material ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/02 08:13:21
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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haha... definitely one of those slight errors that actually turns out to add a lot more character to the model.. even at this early stage! IMHO the rivet panels look great! More please!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/03 23:25:12
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Good work on the shaping.
D'Oh! on sanding too far. Easily done. Great recovery though. That's the way to go with the flow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/22 23:01:56
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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lone dirty dog wrote:Damn shame  I feel your pain, however the riveted plates are more in keeping with 40k plus adds to the battle damage look
Or you could just give it to me for my Orks
Hey did you just estimate the scaling or did you use reference material ?
Scale was decided by referring to some basic plans I found and then measuring it out with a plastic Catachan as a base reference
MagosBiff90 wrote:haha... definitely one of those slight errors that actually turns out to add a lot more character to the model.. even at this early stage! IMHO the rivet panels look great! More please!
Cheers mate
Dr H wrote:Good work on the shaping.
D'Oh! on sanding too far. Easily done. Great recovery though. That's the way to go with the flow. 
It was planned, honest
So... some progress finally this weekend - I think the pictures tell the story...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/23 07:35:00
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The detailing inside the cabin is awesome, and it's looking very smooth and hydrodynamic generally
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/23 23:51:16
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Sorry tried 4 times to leave a reply damn day  any way this is looking pretty nice indeed all the detail is there
The shape is pretty much spot on and the control panel is just full of stuff  love the fact you have still got the drop in gunner port at the front
Truly awesome I just wish someone made a model in this scale  I have troops in dying need of this
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/28 16:35:37
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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Cheers chaps.
Twin linked Heavy stubbers now for the front gunner...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/29 00:37:41
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Just gets better the gun port is great from the twin stubbers to the seat, did you cut and shape the seat back or use a false nail
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/29 02:10:42
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
Deep in the Outer Boroughs of NYC
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Nice progress on the attack boat. Stubbers look pretty cool and I like that the turret actually swivels.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/29 21:32:13
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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lone dirty dog wrote:Just gets better the gun port is great from the twin stubbers to the seat, did you cut and shape the seat back or use a false nail
Thanks LDD.
False nail, why didn't I think of that  - I ripped my own nail off for this, damn it hurt
Seriously though, just a piece of 0.75mm plasticard cut and bent to shape
Warboss_Waaazag wrote:Nice progress on the attack boat. Stubbers look pretty cool and I like that the turret actually swivels.
Cheers Waaazag, a bit of movement on the model is always good  I was going to have the stubbers moving but have run out of real earth magnets, so they are glued in place
Update - framework for the cabin awning - made out of 1.5mm wire bent to shape (which was a bugger to do..)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/29 22:08:20
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Dakka Veteran
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Now THAT'S a sweet boat!
Nice build
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/29 22:38:59
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Holy crap you have actually built the wire frame  bet that took some work to do
It just improves with every update you truly are a genius with this scratch building  what are your plans for this by the way ?
Is the frame glued or solder ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/29 23:02:49
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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Thanks Klaus, your work has inspired me many times...
Thanks LDD, yeah it was  to get that frame to the okayish form you see. It's by no means perfect, but given the patched nature of the hull I think it will actually fit the aesthetics of the boat... at the moment it's just glued, but I did consider soldering and may still need to go that route as I'm not yet convinced it will say stuck...
Plans, are really just to see if I can build this boat. It will end up themed for a Catachan patrol and be heavy on the Dakka...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/29 23:08:16
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Courageous Skink Brave
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The boat is super sweet!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/30 05:00:31
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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1.4 mm wire is much easier to work with.  Joking aside that is excellent work with the wire. The boat looks really good.
Now the question is: what sorts of tools did you use to form the wire?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/30 09:17:49
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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Very VERY cool! The stubbers look cool & I cant wait to see how you add the canvas roof over the wire!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/30 17:18:00
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I feel your pain Rug, I've been using paperclip wire to make frames, guardrails and trophy/jerry can holders lately.
It is awful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/30 19:32:04
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Someone methinks has been watching a certain Martin Sheen film
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/30 20:55:46
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Good looking boat. Nice work on the turret thing. I too like the seat.
Good job on the frame and console too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/30 23:08:40
Subject: Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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Jormi_Boced wrote:The boat is super sweet!
Thanks mate
Red Harvest wrote:1.4 mm wire is much easier to work with.  Joking aside that is excellent work with the wire. The boat looks really good.
Now the question is: what sorts of tools did you use to form the wire?
Well... actually... I checked and it's closer to 2.0mm
I'll have to get a picture, but basically I cut the wire into 16cm lengths then got a piece of MDF and cut out some forming guides. Using the guide (which are just grooves cut into the MDF) I then gradually bent the wire into shape using a ball peen hammer to help... All very time consuming and really not entirely satisfied with the outcome If I'm brutally honest (see below)
MagosBiff90 wrote:Very VERY cool! The stubbers look cool & I cant wait to see how you add the canvas roof over the wire!
Thanks - the canvas - I have a plan for that (but see below...)
Stormwall wrote:I feel your pain Rug, I've been using paperclip wire to make frames, guardrails and trophy/jerry can holders lately.
It is awful.
Yarp... painful and awful are the buzz words today...
shasolenzabi wrote:Someone methinks has been watching a certain Martin Sheen film 
Haha - you know what... I've never seen it  But, it's certainly inspired by some of the 'stills' I've seen online...
Dr H wrote:Good looking boat. Nice work on the turret thing. I too like the seat.
Good job on the frame and console too.
Cheers Dr. Not such a good job on the frame though because... (see below)
I looked it all over and in true Ruglud fashion, I ripped the wireframe off and dumped in the bottom of my bitz box. I'm going to experiment with different wire size; plastic rod; brass tube and dry spaghetti (last one is not true)...
watch this space...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/31 10:01:43
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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WTF you ripped of the wire frame  but it looked so cool  well hands down to you for being a perfectionist but I honestly thought it was looking spot on.
Well looking forward to the new and improved version and good luck mate
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 00:34:07
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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lone dirty dog wrote:WTF you ripped of the wire frame  but it looked so cool  well hands down to you for being a perfectionist but I honestly thought it was looking spot on. Well looking forward to the new and improved version and good luck mate
Yep... when it's wrong, it's wrong... Wire was too thick and it was aligned badly. v2 now in progress with thinner copper wire from some 3-core mains wire... Forming the copper wire...  Aligning the frame to solder...  Soldered... damn fiddly...  Frame in place...  bit of cleaning up to do, but MUCH happier with this now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 00:59:03
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Fixture of Dakka
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Damn...not popped in for a while, completely missed this.
That is a slick looking attack boat you have coming together there, fantastic work.
Old frame was good...new frame is better
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 09:16:41
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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Brilliant bud, love the wire work, will you go for a canvas?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 11:03:50
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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I see your point if you ain't feeling it it ain't going to work, I have to say the jig is a clever self built aid  very clever plus means all your angles match up and easier to shape the wire.
This is a really cool build I just wish I could pull this off as every time I look at my Tamiya Pibber boat I wish it was in 32mm scale
Anyway great stuff can't wait for the next update, mind you I am amazed your allowed to solder in the front room
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 18:27:25
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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Yah, new frame is an improvement indeed.  A jig always helps for that sort of thing. The wire is much better for the scale of the boat. For the joints, did you file concavities into one side of the pieces to make things fit tighter? I ask because I see potential for many things in what you have there.
Do you have any of those pliers without teeth/serrations, the ones jewelers et al use? Ah, they are called round nose pliers? Also flat nose pliers? I have some ( they were part of a 20 piece set I got as a gift some years ago) Very useful for bending things.
Oh, the trick to straightening wires? Roll it between 2 blocks of wood, mangle press style. Works for finish nails too. If you did not know already.
The boat is looking sweet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 21:55:37
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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monkeytroll wrote:Damn...not popped in for a while, completely missed this.
That is a slick looking attack boat you have coming together there, fantastic work.
Old frame was good...new frame is better
Cheers MT
Camkierhi wrote:Brilliant bud, love the wire work, will you go for a canvas?
There will be a 'canvas' top on the frame, still toying with a couple of ideas / materials for doing that...
lone dirty dog wrote:I see your point if you ain't feeling it it ain't going to work, I have to say the jig is a clever self built aid  very clever plus means all your angles match up and easier to shape the wire.
This is a really cool build I just wish I could pull this off as every time I look at my Tamiya Pibber boat I wish it was in 32mm scale
Anyway great stuff can't wait for the next update, mind you I am amazed your allowed to solder in the front room
Yeah, the jig was the only way to go...
Ooh, you have the Tamiya model - nice... How long and wide is the hull. I did think about using that model rather than scratchbuild it but was cost prohibitive I thought...
As to soldering, the wife was out for the night so I went ahead... Just had to be careful and make sure the dining table was well protected
Red Harvest wrote:Yah, new frame is an improvement indeed.  A jig always helps for that sort of thing. The wire is much better for the scale of the boat. For the joints, did you file concavities into one side of the pieces to make things fit tighter? I ask because I see potential for many things in what you have there.
Do you have any of those pliers without teeth/serrations, the ones jewelers et al use? Ah, they are called round nose pliers? Also flat nose pliers? I have some ( they were part of a 20 piece set I got as a gift some years ago) Very useful for bending things.
Oh, the trick to straightening wires? Roll it between 2 blocks of wood, mangle press style. Works for finish nails too. If you did not know already.
The boat is looking sweet.
Thanks Red, not, the joints are just straight soldered with superglue over the top for added strength - no filing down on the copper, although is a good idea...
I'm just using standard DIY tools, nothing fancy but do plan on buying some so will look into jewellers tools I think, thanks for the tip.
Couple of techniques to straighten. Started with hammering , moved on to making a jig (long straight groove) and using pliers, ended up with using a drill and holding the other end with pliers then gently spinning the wire on a low torque setting - I reckon this last option is by far the best way - and quickest...
So on to the rear railing... Not soldered (as the wife was around) but stuck with superglue using yet another jig... Note;this wire was straightened using the drill method...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 09:44:55
Subject: Re:Ruglud's conversions and scratchbuilds [Update: Charlie don't surf]
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Boats coming along nicely, especially with the added wire work  .
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