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So if I don't own Celestine or Exorcists yet am I basically doomed? It's a friend of mine so hopefully he will let me proxy lol.

I've played him with my Tyranids before and he definitely Wraith spammed that game. He only owns two of the flyers thankfully!

Now that I think about it I really need an ADL too. It's funny that I can own over a thousand dollars retail in Sisters and still not have a playable army lol.

What do you have for sisters? We might be able to help you out.

edit: Also, $1000 retail doesn't go as far for us as other armies.

Yeah this is true! I traded a large Tyranid army for my stuff but didn't quite realize at the time how much I'd have to add.

I have 10 Seraphim (3 hand flamers, 2 superiors), 50 Bolters, and a pretty good selection of all the special and heavy weapons. I have 6 Superiors and 2 Canoness. I also have 4 Rhinos, Khyrnov, and some Arco Flagellants.

Basically I'm probably good on foot troops (though I'd like some Repentia and some more meltas). Now I just need the "power pieces".

With that many bodies you basically only need Exorcists and Celestine to be able to field most kinds of lists.

What Shandara said. I'd also recommend adding Jacobus.

 Malkyr wrote:
Yeah this is true! I traded a large Tyranid army for my stuff but didn't quite realize at the time how much I'd have to add.

I have 10 Seraphim (3 hand flamers, 2 superiors), 50 Bolters, and a pretty good selection of all the special and heavy weapons. I have 6 Superiors and 2 Canoness. I also have 4 Rhinos, Khyrnov, and some Arco Flagellants.

Basically I'm probably good on foot troops (though I'd like some Repentia and some more meltas). Now I just need the "power pieces".

Convert or Proxy one of the Seraph Superiors to be Celestine.

Celestine
Kyrinov
8 Seraphim
3x Doms (10) in Rhinos
2x Sister Squads (one on foot, one in Rhino)

That's about the best you can do right now.

That's what it seems like!

I want to get a couple of Immolators, a couple Exorcists, and Celestine soon. Then I'd pick up Jacobus, Repentia, and Penitent Engines later.

I'm hoping to find stuff on Ebay or a trading site but I may just bite the bullet and order direct from GW.

Like I said hopefully my buddy will be cool with me proxying a few pieces Thursday. Otherwise it will be the Sanctuary 101 Massacre all over again lol.

I know that you probably know this, but i'll say it anyway.

If you end up doing the foot swarm, be sure to focus everything you can on one target at a time. Sisters can dish out an impressive amount of firepower so you may not be entirely doomed if you can't run the exorcists and Celestine. Even more so against necrons with their regeneration protocol nonsense.

I find that alot of luck is required to get stuff cheaper on ebay (at least the uk site) I've only managed to snag a decent discount a handful of times the rest of the time I've saved like £1 per model or something. Part of me wonders if I might as well buy straight from GW, atleast then they know there's demand for the Sisters...

But yeah Malkyr grab Celestine and some exorcists and you'll be well on your way.

D

Here's a pretty good guide for how not to do it!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/468878.page
This is the same game from the Necron POV:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/466541.page

All joking aside, Necrons have a few different builds so it really depends on what your opponent takes. One thing I've learned from jy2 is that a fast Necron army can lock you in your own DZ and let their dinky little reserved troop units walk on and hold objectives while you're scrambling to deal with the Wraiths and Barges that are in your face on Turn 2.

Sisters can mitigate this a little bit by outflanking with Dominions and deep striking Seraphim (if you're going second). Similarly, if you get first turn, you can use those units to push into the midfield first which will force the Necron player to deal with them before they can lock down your DZ. If you do that, you should expect your vehicles to get destroyed by Tesla fire and be wary of Wraiths charging the ladies who jump out.

What's the general consensus on our one Aircraft choice? It seems like it can be pretty painful, but it seems way too fragile to be effective IMO. Plus, even if you buy a pair of upgrade weapons for it, you can only ever fire one gun so you're actually just paying for a single weapon.
It seems like a lot of its upgrades (The ability to ignore shaken/stunned, buying extra guns to soak up weapon destroyed results,) are made pretty worthless by only having 2 hull points.
Am I just missing something, or will this flyer just crumble the moment it gets a second glance by an AA weapon?

Yeah, I'll keep my Exorcists. Now, if there was a flyer that was an Elite choice...

Waaaghpower wrote:
What's the general consensus on our one Aircraft choice? It seems like it can be pretty painful, but it seems way too fragile to be effective IMO. Plus, even if you buy a pair of upgrade weapons for it, you can only ever fire one gun so you're actually just paying for a single weapon.
It seems like a lot of its upgrades (The ability to ignore shaken/stunned, buying extra guns to soak up weapon destroyed results,) are made pretty worthless by only having 2 hull points.
Am I just missing something, or will this flyer just crumble the moment it gets a second glance by an AA weapon?

Can only ever fire one gun?
Flyers can fire up to 4 weapons at full BS a turn.
From this limit, Flyers may fire up to 1 bomb and 2 Missiles.

So you can fire the Avenger, 2 Lascannons and Heavy Stubber at full BS.
If it took missiles, you could fire the Avenger, 2 Lascannons, and a Missile, then snapshot the Stubber. (Or both missile and snapshot 1 lascannon or the avenger too).

It's pretty kill, but a little fragile, though FA12 is pretty good.

Furthermore, Sisters technically have access to 2 more flyers for what it's worth, the Arvus Lighter and Aquilla Lander.

Flying Bricks you mean.

The Avenger is pretty good, sadly flyers like Vendetta are far more efficient pointswise.

I don't run fliers. In fact my current list at 1500 doesn't have any AA; there's surprisingly few fliers in my area.

I'm gonna take an Icarus ontop of a bastion at 1750 I reckon, but I'm unsure who'll man it as I want my Rets in the Bastion..suggestions?

I forgot to mention my game on sunday v chaos marines. I got a serious kicking and there wasn't even a hellbrake in site. He had dual forgefiends with plasma, termies, 2 squads of raptors, 2 squads of cultists and one squad of marines and a rhino. Nothing too scsry on the face of it but I think the mission didn't help, it was a battle mission one where you scored at the end of each round if you were touching an objective soI could hide in my rhino and since we don't really have cheap scoring units I had little available fire output. Good game though.

One thing that did come up, my opponent was trying to convince me that Celestine only comes back in a game turn. Basically he went first killed her and argued she should come back til my T2. I've never play it this was as the wording is just 'subsequent turn' i.e my next turn after dies but he argue there was no point him killing her if he has to kill her again in the next shooting phase - i did tell him that's his choice what he shoots at and it's on of the reasons why Celestine is so good as she can just tank a round of shooting - anyway we rolled for it and I lost the roll off (typical). Can we confirm if I'm right it should state in the rules if it's the next game turn, right? Also if I am right how can I prove it?

D

 evildrcheese wrote:

One thing that did come up, my opponent was trying to convince me that Celestine only comes back in a game turn. Basically he went first killed her and argued she should come back til my T2. I've never play it this was as the wording is just 'subsequent turn' i.e my next turn after dies but he argue there was no point him killing her if he has to kill her again in the next shooting phase - i did tell him that's his choice what he shoots at and it's on of the reasons why Celestine is so good as she can just tank a round of shooting - anyway we rolled for it and I lost the roll off (typical). Can we confirm if I'm right it should state in the rules if it's the next game turn, right? Also if I am right how can I prove it?

D

You got hosed. Codex specifically states "Roll a D6 at the start of your subsequent turn." Your subsequent turn is the one right after his.

Amerikon wrote:
Yeah, I'll keep my Exorcists. Now, if there was a flyer that was an Elite choice...

This is true of both Avengers and Penitent Engines.

At least I was right and I haven't been playing it wrong. I think there's something in the BRB about any references to 'turn' is a player turn rather than a game turn unless it specifically says game turn. Atleast i can get gim on RAW even if he doesn't agree with the RAI.

D

So do you guys critique army lists here?

I guess Sisters are pretty straight forward to list out, but I wouldn't mind making sure I'm not missing somethin.

-CotW

 The Cry of the Wind wrote:
So do you guys critique army lists here?

We do everything here!

Post a list and we'll take a look.

I understood the rule for Celestine as applying at the start of the Sister's turn, i.e just before movement.

CleansingFire wrote:
I understood the rule for Celestine as applying at the start of the Sister's turn, i.e just before movement.

Yep. 'At the start of each of your subsequent turns' you roll.

 pretre wrote:

Amerikon wrote:
Yeah, I'll keep my Exorcists. Now, if there was a flyer that was an Elite choice...

This is true of both Avengers and Penitent Engines.

But then Repentia would need to be troops!

 Ovion wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Amerikon wrote:
Yeah, I'll keep my Exorcists. Now, if there was a flyer that was an Elite choice...

This is true of both Avengers and Penitent Engines.

But then Repentia would need to be troops!

Something tells me you have a solution in mind for this...

 Ovion wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Amerikon wrote:
Yeah, I'll keep my Exorcists. Now, if there was a flyer that was an Elite choice...

This is true of both Avengers and Penitent Engines.

But then Repentia would need to be troops!

I've only ever fielded Repentia a few times and each time was disappointed, so nah, they don't need to be troops.

 pretre wrote:

 Ovion wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Amerikon wrote:
Yeah, I'll keep my Exorcists. Now, if there was a flyer that was an Elite choice...

This is true of both Avengers and Penitent Engines.

But then Repentia would need to be troops!

I've only ever fielded Repentia a few times and each time was disappointed, so nah, they don't need to be troops.

If Penitent Engines are Elites they need to be!
And when I tried Repentia out they worked alright tbh.

Amerikon wrote:
~snip~ Something tells me you have a solution in mind for this...

Might. :p

Gonna get Aurora for my conversion next month.
It'll be my first Sisters model!

Thanks!
I was leaning towards something like:

Celestine

x10 BSS, Melta, Melta, Rhino
x10 BSS, HF, Flamer

x5 Seraphim, Hand Flamer

Exorcist

This is 695pts, I was shooting for 750pts but not super sure what to add as most things cost just a bit too much. Id like to keep it pure Sisters, no Inquisitorial stuff or allies. I have more BSS's, a few more Seraphim, another Exorcist, an Immolator, a Penitent Engine, a Cannoness and Jacobus.

Feedback appreciated! Probably fighting the dastardly dark eldar, but I don't HAVE to gear the list that way..

Thanks!
-CotW

 The Cry of the Wind wrote:
Thanks!
I was leaning towards something like:

Celestine

x10 BSS, Melta, Melta, Rhino
x10 BSS, HF, Flamer

x5 Seraphim, Hand Flamer

Exorcist

This is 695pts, I was shooting for 750pts but not super sure what to add as most things cost just a bit too much. Id like to keep it pure Sisters, no Inquisitorial stuff or allies. I have more BSS's, a few more Seraphim, another Exorcist, an Immolator, a Penitent Engine, a Cannoness and Jacobus.

Feedback appreciated! Probably fighting the dastardly dark eldar, but I don't HAVE to gear the list that way..

Thanks!
-CotW

Whoops, let me edit that.

Take another rhino and throw another couple seraphim onto the Seraph squad.

 pretre wrote:

 The Cry of the Wind wrote:
Thanks!
I was leaning towards something like:

Celestine

x10 BSS, Melta, Melta, Rhino
x10 BSS, HF, Flamer

x5 Seraphim, Hand Flamer

Exorcist

This is 695pts, I was shooting for 750pts but not super sure what to add as most things cost just a bit too much. Id like to keep it pure Sisters, no Inquisitorial stuff or allies. I have more BSS's, a few more Seraphim, another Exorcist, an Immolator, a Penitent Engine, a Cannoness and Jacobus.

Feedback appreciated! Probably fighting the dastardly dark eldar, but I don't HAVE to gear the list that way..

Thanks!
-CotW

Whoops, let me edit that.

Take another rhino and throw another couple seraphim onto the Seraph squad.

This is good advice, I would follow it.

Speaking of Sisters my parents just moved and cleared out some boxes that were mine that I left there. Apparently I bought more Sisters stuff then I remember because I have almost another 2000 points in unopened battle sisters and seraphims.

Looks like I am going to move away from Tau and back to my main love as a Sisters player. It is Christmas early!

Flying Toaster wrote:
Speaking of Sisters my parents just moved and cleared out some boxes that were mine that I left there. Apparently I bought more Sisters stuff then I remember because I have almost another 2000 points in unopened battle sisters and seraphims.

Looks like I am going to move away from Tau and back to my main love as a Sisters player. It is Christmas early!

Sweet St Celestine's Saintly Seraphim! That is a good find.