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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 14:14:26
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kind of looks like the new orks worship airplanes, with the shape of their standards
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 15:12:22
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Hmm... lots of hammers and anvils.
I'm not digging the paint jobs necessarily but the figures look like they'll be pretty nice.
Hoping for at least one plastic kit out of these.
Would be nice to see some unpainted samples as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 15:29:16
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Terrifying Doombull
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It is very World of Warcraft. Units of Ogrim Doomhammers and Horde 'Wyverns' (read: Manticores) without wings as mounts.
Checkbox for Shaman, cyclops make for a decent Ogron (cyclopian mob from Draenor) proxy
Even a random Felguard at the end as a treat.
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 15:37:00
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Not as Good as a Minion
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and the Monster from the Artwork
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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 15:53:42
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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He looks happy.
I’m digging these orcs. At least my bits box is. Head swaps for everyone!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 15:59:04
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I understand this new faction is about being the Hell's blacksmiths,but did they need to put the nail in so hard ?
Miniatures look okay, they're not that different from Mantic's older orks design like - just straighter and with a lot of hammers.
Waiting to see all the sprues options.
I don't see them as Warcraft orcs, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 16:26:40
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Terrifying Doombull
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Its the armor style. When they ditch the 'feral natives' look for the Horde and go for full plate, its all pauldrons and big hammers, with big gaps in coverage for the arms.
The old (and dated) Ogrim Doomhammer model (and Thrall when he's wearing Doomhammer's armor, really look like inspiration points. The some of curves look more like they come from draenei plate armor, but the mounted Shaman in particular looks like he came straight out of the Warcraft RTS.
The 'Iron Horde' at the end of the Warlords expansion really leans into this look.
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 16:47:00
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wonder if a less bright and colourful paint job on the armour would work?
As it is it is I think the main thing I don't like about them, it looks a bit too ornate for Orcs. If it were less fancy and painted to be a bit grubby looking it would I think change the overall look of the force.
The monster looks like a mutated bedbug.
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The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 17:50:28
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Dominating Dominatrix
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I have mixed feelings about new orcs. I need to see the sprues, and a different paintjob on them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 17:56:31
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Dakka Veteran
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Is it just me or do those new Mantic Orcs look like the new GW Swamp Orruks?
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Rick, the Grumpy Gnome
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 18:10:40
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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Grumpy Gnome wrote:Is it just me or do those new Mantic Orcs look like the new GW Swamp Orruks?
They have literally the opposite aesthetics, it's Warcraft orcs with chunky Warcraft armour and hammers Vs Lotr Orks with spiky garbage cobbled out of scrap
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 18:10:57
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Grumpy Gnome wrote:Is it just me or do those new Mantic Orcs look like the new GW Swamp Orruks?
Their faces have similar grimace.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 22:23:05
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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i like the sculpted detail on the armor.
do we have a release window and/or cost for these? If they're $40 a box for 20 I'm potentially going to pass.
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I collect:
Grand alliance death (whole alliance)
Stormcast eternals
Slaves to Darkness - currently Nurgle but may expand to undivided.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/03 23:45:21
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Using Inks and Washes
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I like em! Glad to see their sculpting quality seems to be improving!
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I play...
Sigh.
Who am I kidding? I only paint these days... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/04 01:44:35
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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lord marcus wrote:i like the sculpted detail on the armor.
do we have a release window and/or cost for these? If they're $40 a box for 20 I'm potentially going to pass.
Not that I could find on the Mantic site. Based on the existing Orc Greataxe set, $40 for 20 is probably the likely MSRP. for these new orcs. The basic orcs are $35, but these orcs look elite and they are new.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/04 02:05:00
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Time to the rescue! Time and Miniature Market.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/04 02:23:33
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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yea. found some decent deals there
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I collect:
Grand alliance death (whole alliance)
Stormcast eternals
Slaves to Darkness - currently Nurgle but may expand to undivided.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/04 06:34:31
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Not as Good as a Minion
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release is said to be end of year/beginning of next year with the last patch coming in march
other infantry (also new models) are 30€/35$ for 20 models (MSRP)
those with additional sprues or resin bits are 35€/40€ for 20 models
so 25€ at 3rd party shops, (some still have the old price of 25€ MSRP for in stock items)
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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/04 06:58:58
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Dakka Veteran
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Yes, I was thinking their faces.
Some of the armor and weapons look like the Sigmarines.
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Rick, the Grumpy Gnome
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/04 09:24:19
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Dominating Dominatrix
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I guess that except the new orcs box the rest is either PVC (cyclopes) o resin?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/04 11:56:54
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Not as Good as a Minion
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Everything but the basic units will be Resin, no hints yet if the infantry will be the only plastic set or if we get cavalry as well
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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/04 12:04:42
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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With an enclosed helmet and some minor weapon tweaking, those orcs could make for decent chaos warriors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/04 13:32:59
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Dakka Veteran
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Hmmm. The new orcs are indeed fairly Warcraft in aesthetic, and seem more to be "the organized armies of the Dark Lord" style of orc. I think wargamers might be far more used to the "disorganized inhuman barbarians" style of orc, probably due to Games Workshop and D&D.
I feel like there's room for this sort of orc in wargaming, but the niche seems to be mostly taken up by the chaos warrior/black knight type. Also, there's something about the Warcraft style that's putting me off, but I can't put my finger on it. I don't dislike the Warcraft aesthetics, so I could be as simple as "This isn't what I'm used to from orc miniatures, so I've got a touch of the grognard grump about it."
I honestly think I need to wait and see what I think about these orcs after I've had a while to get used to them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/05 17:10:44
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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Kodos posted a quick recolor on the KOW Forum that bridges the gap with the cyclopses - - and now I'm a believer The lightning bug-thing isn't great IMO (particularly as a mismatch with what we've seen of the faction), but I've already starting sourcing some very tasty lightning beasts to replace it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/05 17:16:40
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Give them a darker paintjob and they're not that different to GW black orcs, which given they seem to have been created by abyssal dwarves makes sense.
I've enough of that style of Orc but I think they're pretty nice. Not a fan of the lion mounts though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/11/05 17:17:32
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Hmm, now they look more demonic than orky to me. I do not think that orcs have to be green but somehow that paint job changed them completely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/03 18:00:29
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/03 18:38:19
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Dominating Dominatrix
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I think they are manticores.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/04 12:25:05
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They are Mantic Games' version of manticores, indeed. They are on standard cavalry base, but clearly bigger than it.
Like the orc regiment, I think it's the official painting scheme that makes them look "bad". I mean, painting them in blue is certainly quite the artistic choice here.
Looking for people doing their paint magic once they get their hands on them : pretty sure it'll help a lot to change opinions !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/04 17:22:16
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Fantasy News & Rumors- Ratkin P.279
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Pious Warrior Priest
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I'll be painting some up for my abyssal army as abyssal guard, they can also act as slave orcs for abyssal dwarfs since the armour style matches so well.
Always happy to get new plastic kits to play around with, and heavily-armoured heroic scale orcs are definitely going to be a welcome addition to the range of alternate minis out there.
I'm hoping after all these new army releases we see some stuff for existing armies added, the main thing that got Mantic recognised early on was the quality and value of their flagship Undead range.
Would be really great to see basileans get a couple of combi infantry/cavalry sets similar to the Halfling kit.
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