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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I wonder if we'll see these figures eventually phase out the original Kings of War mummy units.

Stargate guardians are way cooler than gorilla armed mummy men.

unlikely. the enslaved guardians are ogre sized.

 kodos wrote:
I have waited many years for good looking Khemri core infantry, if the basic skeleton set is hard plastic, Mantic has sold me another army.

it will be. Core infantry is always done in plastic. Enslaved Guardians however I suspect will be metal.

Boardgame plastic should net them more gains in the long run. Dungeon Saga: Pyramid Tomb Something Something Profit.

 Micky wrote:

 kodos wrote:
I have waited many years for good looking Khemri core infantry, if the basic skeleton set is hard plastic, Mantic has sold me another army.

it will be. Core infantry is always done in plastic. Enslaved Guardians however I suspect will be metal.

They'd probably be either restic or metal, but yeah the Guardians probably wouldn't be HIPS. Looking at similar stuff in the Mantic catalog, werewolves are restic but molochs and forest shamblers are metal.

 scarletsquig wrote:
From what I've heard, the upgrades will be hard plastic, the skeleton sprue is tooled so that one half of it can be replaced something already done with the revenants), so this very likely considering that the concepts are showing a replacement of the torsos, arms and heads.

No Kickstarter for them either, most likely. It's a new release to give ex-GW players some miniatures to buy for their army now that Tomb Kings are OOP.

While it would be nice to have the upgrades in plastic, Mattjgilbert alluded to there being metal uppgrades.

 mattjgilbert wrote:
Metal to use on the existing plastics.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/686250.page#8573692


Now that you mention it though. The skeletons and revenant sprues do have about half their sprues exactly the same so it presumably is possible to just replace the torso/head part of the mold and not tool a completely new steel mold for the entire sprue. That would make it a lot cheaper and easier to do dust themed skeletons in plastic.

My mistake, looks like hybrid metals it is!

Well, no sale then. Metal parts on skeleton legs don't work, we've known that for 15 years.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, no sale then. Metal parts on skeleton legs don't work, we've known that for 15 years.

On mantic they do. Ever put together the skeleton archers? A dream.

Yep. Unlike the old GW plastic skeletons (I haven't assembled the newer version so I don't know how those go together) the mantic skeleton torsos don't simply attach directly on top of the spine.

There's a indent in the torso piece that that fits with a raised part of the leg piece. So there's a lot more surface that contact, and some of the legs even has a peg for extra stability.

As mentioned before, Metal bits on plastic legs does mean a high center of gravity but that's easily fixed by multibasing, or less easily fixed by weights or magnets under the base.

What do you use for weights? Do you use any material, or are there special 20mm wide weights out there?
I used to use the metal scraps from GW's metal minis, but those aren't being sold anymore, at least in stores.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
What do you use for weights? Do you use any material, or are there special 20mm wide weights out there?
I used to use the metal scraps from GW's metal minis, but those aren't being sold anymore, at least in stores.

I used pennies here in America. Our smallest denomination coin made a great weight.

You should be able to get steel washers from the hardware store that will fit under a 20mm square and do the job

 NTRabbit wrote:
You should be able to get steel washers from the hardware store that will fit under a 20mm square and do the job

Indeed, though watch the pricing. It's often cheaper to use actual currency depending on what size and weight you need.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
What do you use for weights? Do you use any material, or are there special 20mm wide weights out there?
I used to use the metal scraps from GW's metal minis, but those aren't being sold anymore, at least in stores.

Check your local fishing store.
Small lead weights can be bought reasonably cheep. They are very dense, and soft enough that you can fairly easily cut them or squish them together a bit with pliers if you need for them to fit under a hollow base.

feth YEAH

Hey guys,

Just wanted to note that we have this sweet Kings of War subforum on Dakka now, so please post down there if you're interested in this game!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/forums/show/81.page

I pushed hard for the inclusion of this forum but so far, response has been a bit slow compared to other new forums. I know that's partially due to transition, but it would be great to see more activity discussing KoW on Dakka! Honestly, we had a bit more bleeding into the normal WHFB sections before so hoping folks will migrate over to the dedicated area to discuss it now that we've separated things out

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New images of Kings of War's Empire of Dust





http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=171592


Earth Elementals

Want those Earth Elementals

Holy smokes, I need those earth elementals!

Only thing I'm not sure about is the tree sticking up on their backs, but that looks easy to modify / remove. Very nice!!

The dog-headed Empire of Dust models (Ushbati?) look sweet, too.

Oh, wow. I hope the Guardians and Elementals are in the new DZ boardgame plastic.

A pack of those elementals sure would be nice for Dungeon Saga...and as further temptation for a KoW Dwarf army.

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If those Empire of Dust guys are in plastic--any kind of plastic--I will buy many. If they give them at least one additional khopesh option, I will buy twice as many. They definitely need more khopesh.

The earth elementals look pretty good, but I doubt they will be in a material or price point that makes them truly desirable for anyone who already has the Bones equivalents.

Mantic needs to push the PVC for this stuff.

You hear me Mantic? PVC! If we can't have injection plastic kits, PVC then! No more slipshod metal or scraggly restic!

I do think that for big organic-ish models, PVC is a fine fit. I'm happy enough with my lesser obsidian golems, which look quite similar to the earth elementals, in PVC. I really dislike it for anything smaller, though!

Count me in for empire of dust too. Always regretted getting rid of my tomb kings way back when, these are looking great so far.

They mentioned on Facebook that they are metal conversion kits for the current plastic undead.

Facepalm.

 judgedoug wrote:
They mentioned on Facebook that they are metal conversion kits for the current plastic undead.

Facepalm.

They've certainly walked back their decisions on materials before. This might be a case of ..uh, repellant-and-switch?

Metal is still better than restic IMO. Regardless of the material I'm definitely in on those earth elementals though.

I like restic more than metal for tall models....

After fiddling with the nature elementals form Kings of War, I would have much preferred any other medium than metal. They had some many little fiddly parts, all bent out of shape, some snapped, ridiculous flash that I couldn't tell what was a part and what wasn't, mold slippage...

Of course there's no guarantee they would have been much better in another medium, but still...

Not a fan of hybrid kits. Guess we'll wait and see.