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And the Codex comes out the following week, so this is very much a non-issue.

I hope so, the lack of information about the codex all of a sudden scares me :(

 CrashCanuck wrote:
Technically the Hellbrute and Cultists would not quite be legal in most lists as there is no entry for them in their relevant codex, that being said bubber got it right by saying we should have a new codex for them sometime in september. You can use them for battles using only models from the starter set. I would spend the time waiting for the new codex getting those models ready for the table, make them all nice and purdy.

So, you're saying that I can't used my storm talon because it's not in the current codex Space Marines? What if the rules are in White Dwarf and I bring that to games?

Ya know I think this discussion is a wonderful litmus test for who you are playing against. In a tourney I can see this being a discussion. Regular for fun play for the week or so it doesn't have rules (by the rumors), if the guy I am playing really has an issue, well best not to play him. I mean Forgeworld isn't in the book either, treat it like that.

TechMarine1 wrote:

 CrashCanuck wrote:
Technically the Hellbrute and Cultists would not quite be legal in most lists as there is no entry for them in their relevant codex, that being said bubber got it right by saying we should have a new codex for them sometime in september. You can use them for battles using only models from the starter set. I would spend the time waiting for the new codex getting those models ready for the table, make them all nice and purdy.

So, you're saying that I can't used my storm talon because it's not in the current codex Space Marines? What if the rules are in White Dwarf and I bring that to games?

The WD works as a supplement because it has both the rules AND the points cost, the booklet that came with AoBR didn't have point values in it, so if we don't have point values for the Hellbrute or Cultists they can't really be added into a current list as those now can they?

 Squigsquasher wrote:

 Plokoone wrote:
Not fond of the cultists however. I was hoping for the Dawn of War look.

To be fair, if they did look like that, who could resist squealing "WE KAPTOORED EET FOR KAYHOSS!!!" every time the unit captured an objective?

Oh, and it could be worse:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And the Codex comes out the following week, so this is very much a non-issue.

You say that like it's certain when it's just a maybe. Hastings isn't certain of it and anyone can send 'anonymous' contributions to Natfka.

I'd love for you to be right though, but I'm not going to hold my breath :(

I'm very meh about the starter kit and am going to give it a pass. Sure, the figures are nice and all but neither army is one I have any interest in playing and I have everything else in the box already and don't need more of the same.

Oh, I want it alright! Those Deathwing are AMAZING! They look almost as good as a finecast model (without air bubbles and stuff). I'm going to get the limited edition if I can.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Ohwell, if worse comes to worse, stat sheets shall be wafted in faces

edit: BTW, the cultist champion with the shotgun, is he wearing a mask, looks a little bit like the samurai face mask, or is it just really red skin? Also love those 2 cultists with the hooded robes and helmet, so badass.

I believe it is a Blood Pact style mask.

Also, do we know if the upcoming Chaos codex is going to be hardback, like the recent Fantasy army books?

 ashrog wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Ohwell, if worse comes to worse, stat sheets shall be wafted in faces

edit: BTW, the cultist champion with the shotgun, is he wearing a mask, looks a little bit like the samurai face mask, or is it just really red skin? Also love those 2 cultists with the hooded robes and helmet, so badass.

I believe it is a Blood Pact style mask.

Also, do we know if the upcoming Chaos codex is going to be hardback, like the recent Fantasy army books?

Sweet, thanks. Yeah it will be hardback.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Spoiler:

Oh, and it could be worse:

Spoiler:

My little Cultist: HWEE POHNEED EET FOR KHAYOSS !

Image links are broken?

I might have to split with someone for that box set. Not sure whether to go for Chaos or DA. DA needs Chapter Symbols cut off, but the opportunity for an awesome chaplain, along with those bikers and an extra Tac squad, is hard to pass up.

On the other had a PA Chaos Lord, some cultists and that Hellbrute would make a great start to a chaos list. Will wait for the dex to see what the craic is.

Regarding the Chaos cultists and future cultist releases:

The 40K box set has simple 2(?) part cultist models.
The June 2013 alleged release list has a Cultist Hybrid Upgrade Pack

Sometime between the box set release and the release Cultist Hybrid Upgrade Pack I think its safe to assume that there will be a separate box of plastic cultists released.
The question is will GW simply re-release the box set cultists, or will we see a completely new kit of multi-part cultists?
Seems unlikely that they would release an upgrade pack for the box set cultists, so I'm thinking we will be seeing a completely new kit of multi-part cultists that may well blow away the simple box set cultist figs.

Tim

timd wrote:
Regarding the Chaos cultists and future cultist releases:

The 40K box set has simple 2(?) part cultist models.
The June 2013 alleged release list has a Cultist Hybrid Upgrade Pack

Sometime between the box set release and the release Cultist Hybrid Upgrade Pack I think its safe to assume that there will be a separate box of plastic cultists released.
The question is will GW simply re-release the box set cultists, or will we see a completely new kit of multi-part cultists?
Seems unlikely that they would release an upgrade pack for the box set cultists, so I'm thinking we will be seeing a completely new kit of multi-part cultists that may well blow away the simple box set cultist figs.

Tim

I believe the "Cultist Hybrid" kit is generally considered to refer to Genestealer Cultists, not Chaos Cultists.

timd wrote:
The June 2013 alleged release list has a Cultist Hybrid Upgrade Pack

1) The list is strongly believed to be fake
2) Those refer to Genestealer Cults

 Vhalyar wrote:

1) The list is strongly believed to be fake

Is it? Man some people have too much free time.

I already have 4 trades setup, I gets tons of chaos!

This'll be my only power armor army.

Every time I see pictures of the new White Dwarf on Dakka/BoLs/Warseer, GW seem to release one of there god damn awful "teaser" trailers.

Is anyone else actually excited about the prospect of having Tactical Marines with proper Tac markings as raised details on the shoulder pad? Not a metal slightly different sized shoulder pad, and not a big white arrow painted on (badly, in my case) but properly cast into the plastic. I am, I like this a lot, I am looking forward to painting these guys and making them look really crisp, excited about collecting Marines for the first time in a long time.

 Nuclear Mekanik wrote:
Is anyone else actually excited about the prospect of having Tactical Marines with proper Tac markings as raised details on the shoulder pad? Not a metal slightly different sized shoulder pad, and not a big white arrow painted on (badly, in my case) but properly cast into the plastic. I am, I like this a lot, I am looking forward to painting these guys and making them look really crisp, excited about collecting Marines for the first time in a long time.

Bad news if you are planning on using these for any chapter other than DA's, because I believe their squad markings are different from the codex-standard markings. AoBR marines had the sculpted Tac arrow, though.

 Nuclear Mekanik wrote:
Is anyone else actually excited about the prospect of having Tactical Marines with proper Tac markings as raised details on the shoulder pad?

The AoBR Marines had that already, so it's probably not as exciting for most this time around...


Besides, Dark Angels tactical markings are different to everyone else's...

 Vhalyar wrote:

timd wrote:
The June 2013 alleged release list has a Cultist Hybrid Upgrade Pack

1) The list is strongly believed to be fake

By the Kool Aid drinkers perhaps, but there is far too much in that list that rings very true. The scheduling may change, but I think we will see the bulk of that list released in the next three years. Is there any real evidence at all that its fake besides Hastings' call?

I believe the "Cultist Hybrid" kit is generally considered to refer to Genestealer Cultists, not Chaos Cultists.

I do Blood Angels, so all I have to do is cover up the sword with an egg shaped blob of greenstuff.

timd wrote:
If the Chaos Cultists are in the Chaos codex, they will have to release a box set of Chaos Cultists pretty quickly ...

Like they did with the Deffcopta?

 Tappers wrote:
I do Blood Angels, so all I have to do is cover up the sword with an egg shaped blob of greenstuff.

... and change the Tactical markings...

Who cares about the tactical markings?

 insaniak wrote:

timd wrote:
If the Chaos Cultists are in the Chaos codex, they will have to release a box set of Chaos Cultists pretty quickly ...

Like they did with the Deffcopta?

How long after the box set release was the Deffcopter released separately (I don't follow Orks...)?

 Vitruvian XVII wrote:
Who cares about the tactical markings?

Blood Angels also don't wear robes. Everybody knows that blood stains are a pain in the butt to get out of your robes.

 plastictrees wrote:

 Vhalyar wrote:

1) The list is strongly believed to be fake

Is it? Man some people have too much free time.

Debunked by Hastings himself as a copy/paste of current rumors + a steaming load of invented crap. But apparently Hastings makes Kool Aid and a gut feeling is more accurate

timd wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

timd wrote:
If the Chaos Cultists are in the Chaos codex, they will have to release a box set of Chaos Cultists pretty quickly ...

Like they did with the Deffcopta?

How long after the box set release was the Deffcopter released separately (I don't follow Orks...)?

Well, the starter is now OOP and the Deffkoptas still aren't sold separately. so...