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Relapse wrote: A few good examples are some women I know whose husbands got into porn in a big way and over time wanted to start doing things that from the movies they watched that were repellant to the women. Another example is a guy I know who got into porn as a kid and developed some pretty warped notions that he brought into adulthood. He had his wife take pictures of herself which he put onto his computer and he would masturbate to them along with all the other porn he viewed because it was the only way he could get off anymore. Needless to say at that point his marrige fell apart within a couple of years. A friend I work with went through a divorce and in a pretty frank conversation with me about it blamed what he called a porn addiction on his part for the troubles.
TBH that's more of a confirmation bias thing. You only really hear about porn in a relationship when it causes problems, the couples that just enjoy their porn without any conflict are a lot less likely to ever talk about it.
Maybe, but alongside the article I posted with those cases as a springboard for further study, there are found lot of disturbing articles and papers by psycologists and psychiatrists about the harmful influence of pornography.
The harmful influence of pornography only goes as far as the couple allows it to. There are plenty of couples whose relationships are enhanced by it (speaking from personal experience here). Banning it from all because some people can't hold themselves responsible for their own failing marriages is like banning burgers because some people get fat off them (again, speaking from personal experience...!!)
Besides - you're assuming that a failed marriage is always a bad thing. One man's story of loss is another woman's success story of independence. One woman's story of disappointment is another man's story of moving on and finding someone more appreciative.
"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch
Depending on circumstances, I have no doubt that pornography can be a boon or a curse to a relationship, but I imagine for the majority of people it is just something they see from time to time without being a huge influence on their life. Obsession with anything is bad, porn or otherwise, unless it is an obsession with getting that checker pattern just right on a terminator power fist, in which case it is not only necessary but just and good.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Anyone else find this weird that they are doing this mere days before the new prince was born? It must me a conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are trying to get rid of all porn so the new prince might not find it when he grows up
hotsauceman1 wrote: Anyone else find this weird that they are doing this mere days before the new prince was born? It must me a conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are trying to get rid of all porn so the new prince might not find it when he grows up
No they were hoping the media coverage of the royal bambino would help the ban on porn slip past unnoticed. A bit like when Russia slipped a few tanks into Georgia whilst most of the worlds eyes were on the football world cup or was it the olympics?
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they aren't really blocking it, because supposedly adults that want it can still get it. Hopefully it prevents children from exposure to this stuff.
I just want to know when the USA will do this!
Content filtering software is widely used by numerous private entities.
And, realistically, if a child sees something pornographic (And they will, whether or not they intend to.) it isn't the end of the world. Honestly I've always felt that much of the squeamishness regarding kids viewing porn stems from parents who don't want to talk to their children about sex, or otherwise want to pretend that human sexuality doesn't exist.
And then there is the implicit joke of the picture reds8n posted, in which the news organization celebrating the passage of a law impeding access to porn provides link to porn.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Far more marriages are ruined by the more common alcohol abuse. But we don't ban drink, and there are many ways for those underage to get hold of it. People need to exercise more personal responsibility and be accountable for their actions. If you get drunk and beat up your partner, or watch porn to the exclusion of all else and ruin your marriage, then it's your fault. There are filters on the Internet, but parents can't be bothered to use them properly. How often do we hear complaints about 'bi
Automatically Appended Next Post: Far more marriages are ruined by the more common alcohol abuse. But we don't ban drink, and there are many ways for those underage to get hold of it. People need to exercise more personal responsibility and be accountable for their actions. If you get drunk and beat up your partner, or watch porn to the exclusion of all else and ruin your marriage, then it's your fault. There are filters on the Internet, but parents can't be bothered to use them properly. How often do we hear complaints about 'violent' computer games harming children when they are 18 rated and only in the hands of children because parents ignore these certifications when buying stuff for their kids?
We're legislating for parental laziness and stupidity. Most children looking at porn online are able to do so because parents don't impose filters and let them use computers in their bedrooms and unsupervised.
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GG put forward the point that if he had a house with internet and said 'no porn here' it would be as he quoted 'his house, his rules.'
Normally the idea that someone should control what goes on in their own homes would be respected, its polite and logical to do so.
However as GG put forward his opinion - and this was all hypothetical - that if this legislation was in his areas, he might choose not to 'Opt In' and thus internet porn could be made unavailable from his home due to his religious beliefs.
All of a sudden he was not qualified to make such a moral judgement about events in his own house, and was trolled for them in following posts.
The jeering critics might have had a point if GG made demands about having no porn access in anyone elses house, but he wasn't saying that.
The OP also mentions a freely available opt in, so the intention is that each household can make up its own mind.
My house, my rules.
Works both ways.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Howard A Treesong wrote: Far more marriages are ruined by the more common alcohol abuse. But we don't ban drink, and there are many ways for those underage to get hold of it. People need to exercise more personal responsibility and be accountable for their actions. If you get drunk and beat up your partner, or watch porn to the exclusion of all else and ruin your marriage, then it's your fault. There are filters on the Internet, but parents can't be bothered to use them properly. How often do we hear complaints about 'bi
Automatically Appended Next Post: Far more marriages are ruined by the more common alcohol abuse. But we don't ban drink, and there are many ways for those underage to get hold of it. People need to exercise more personal responsibility and be accountable for their actions. If you get drunk and beat up your partner, or watch porn to the exclusion of all else and ruin your marriage, then it's your fault. There are filters on the Internet, but parents can't be bothered to use them properly. How often do we hear complaints about 'violent' computer games harming children when they are 18 rated and only in the hands of children because parents ignore these certifications when buying stuff for their kids?
We're legislating for parental laziness and stupidity. Most children looking at porn online are able to do so because parents don't impose filters and let them use computers in their bedrooms and unsupervised.
There are a lot of intellegent points being made in this post I agree with. I think people with addictive behavior patterns need to be damn careful what they let themselves into or that addiction will end up putting them close to the edge if not pushing them over. This is pretty much the case with these marraiges that got ruined.
All the while my older children were growing up, either myself or my wife would help them with the computer and keep it in a very traveled area of the house. We've taught them our values of right and wrong concerning such things, such as people should treat each other with respect and not as objects to satisfy one's selfish desires at any level and to respect themselves to the degree that they won't let themselves be used disrespectfuly. We include pornography in these discussions at our house as humanity at some of it's lowest and basest levels. We are now raising our younger children in the same fashion. It's along the lines of teaching them what we believe to be correct principles in preparing them to govern themselves and hope we've done a good enough job by them.
@Dogma, We don't pretend human sexuality doesn't exist with our kids. They know from an early age what goes on in a relationship, but the stuff that they can access accidently or by design of the purveyors of this trash through disguised addresses like the map one I typed in for my daughter is beyond what a kid should see, I think.
With all of that, I think this is a silly idea to try to set up some kind of national shield because of several reasons that have already been stated by others here.
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GG put forward the point that if he had a house with internet and said 'no porn here' it would be as he quoted 'his house, his rules.'
Normally the idea that someone should control what goes on in their own homes would be respected, its polite and logical to do so.
However as GG put forward his opinion - and this was all hypothetical - that if this legislation was in his areas, he might choose not to 'Opt In' and thus internet porn could be made unavailable from his home due to his religious beliefs.
All of a sudden he was not qualified to make such a moral judgement about events in his own house, and was trolled for them in following posts.
The jeering critics might have had a point if GG made demands about having no porn access in anyone elses house, but he wasn't saying that.
The OP also mentions a freely available opt in, so the intention is that each household can make up its own mind.
My house, my rules.
Works both ways.
GG and anyone else is entirely free to ban almost anything they want in their own homes for whatever reasons they want. However, enforcing that on everyone regardless of their beliefs or objections or otherwise is wrong. GG's posts seemed tp suggeat ot was a good thing because there is no porn or sex in the bible...
GG put forward the point that if he had a house with internet and said 'no porn here' it would be as he quoted 'his house, his rules.'
Normally the idea that someone should control what goes on in their own homes would be respected, its polite and logical to do so.
However as GG put forward his opinion - and this was all hypothetical - that if this legislation was in his areas, he might choose not to 'Opt In' and thus internet porn could be made unavailable from his home due to his religious beliefs.
All of a sudden he was not qualified to make such a moral judgement about events in his own house, and was trolled for them in following posts.
The jeering critics might have had a point if GG made demands about having no porn access in anyone elses house, but he wasn't saying that.
The OP also mentions a freely available opt in, so the intention is that each household can make up its own mind.
My house, my rules.
Works both ways.
GG and anyone else is entirely free to ban almost anything they want in their own homes for whatever reasons they want. However, enforcing that on everyone regardless of their beliefs or objections or otherwise is wrong. GG's posts seemed tp suggeat ot was a good thing because there is no porn or sex in the bible...
Whether GG favours a total ban on porn from the internet, and how it would be accomplished is up to him to say, and not for us to put words in his mouth.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Ban acces to rather than ban from the facr of the world - just to br clearer. On phone and not always easy to type enough to say everytging you mean in as few words as possible to make replies fast
Relapse wrote: Maybe, but alongside the article I posted with those cases as a springboard for further study, there are found lot of disturbing articles and papers by psycologists and psychiatrists about the harmful influence of pornography.
The problem here is that porn is a controversial subject with a lot of people (on both ends of the political scale, for their own reasons) starting with an agenda of proving that porn sucks and justifying their beliefs. But there are three pretty big issues to be aware of:
1) The "only the worst cases get attention" factor is going to be even stronger than in casual conversation. Nobody is going to do a study on couples that watch some porn and have no conflict over it, it's just not interesting enough. Instead, you might for example look at couples going through a divorce and see how many of them had porn as a factor. And of course if you're starting with a political agenda you're certainly going to focus on the cases where porn has actually had a harmful effect.
2) Not all porn is the same. I'm certainly not going to dispute the fact that bad attitudes towards sex and equality, exploitation of people who can't afford to give up a paying job, etc, exist (and are even common) in porn. But those problems aren't universal, and you can't just throw it all in the same general "porn" category if you want to look at its harmful effects (if any).
3) Correlation is not causation. For example, let's say you have porn being blamed for a divorce. But was the porn really the cause of the divorce, or did the "porn-addicted" spouse only start substituting porn for their real partner as a result of other issues driving them apart? After all, it's a lot easier to blame porn for the end of your relationship than, say, do something about the financial arguments you were constantly having.
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Orlanth wrote: All of a sudden he was not qualified to make such a moral judgement about events in his own house, and was trolled for them in following posts.
Why should he be able to make moral judgements about events in his own house when there are other adults living there? He is of course free to decide not to use porn himself, but I don't see why we should respect his decision to declare that everyone else in "his" house has to follow his moral beliefs.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Relapse wrote: We include pornography in these discussions at our house as humanity at some of it's lowest and basest levels. We are now raising our younger children in the same fashion. It's along the lines of teaching them what we believe to be correct principles in preparing them to govern themselves and hope we've done a good enough job by them.
@Dogma, We don't pretend human sexuality doesn't exist with our kids. They know from an early age what goes on in a relationship, but the stuff that they can access accidently or by design of the purveyors of this trash through disguised addresses like the map one I typed in for my daughter is beyond what a kid should see, I think.
I have to call this out. I hate it when someone makes such broad and insulting statements about things. Attacking porn from an assumption that it is "humanity at some of it's lowest and basest levels". I'm sorry, but I find that offensive. You have every right to think what you like about porn, and not watch it, but also have some respect for others.
Have some respect for those who do enjoy it, both watching and the people who are involved in it. Acting as though those involved in something perfectly legal and somehow almost sub human is wrong and lacking respect for the choices others have made. I have never seen someone beat someone to a bloody pulp because of watching porn, unlike alcohol. I have never heard of someone die a slow and painful death, unlike smoking. Most of the problems surrounding porn are down to the fact that it is treated as evil and something that must be hidden. The same with sex in general.
All of the studies I have seen in to the harm of porn either fail to show cause and effect, or have massive confirmation bias. They almost always study "the damage of porn" by looking at people with problems. It's like going to an AA meting to find out if alcohol is damaging. Its puritanical nonsense to say porn is "trash" and attack people who enjoy it. It dose annoy me. Society needs to be more open about sex not less.
I have to also question "r by design of the purveyors of this trash through disguised addresses like the map one I typed"... So you typed a URL in and it redirected you to some porn? Personally I have never had this, because of some basic net safety. I think this says more about your understanding of the Internet than the porn. There is no such thing as a "disguised address", but there is redirects, and if you are going to sites you can't trust like that, especially without proper controls in place your going to soon get much worse than a quick flash of porn whilst you close the browser. I hope you have an up to date virus scan in place. These are not some "evil plot" to force porn on you, they are money making attempts by con artists, hackers, or dodge businesses trying click fraud, knowing that porn is something that attracts people or stops them complaining through embarrassment.
To reiterate, don't watch porn if you don't want to, but please don't call names, and respect others legal choices.
If you have kids get a proper virus scanner, porn blocking software, and, preferably, learn how to block at router level. I recommend OpenDNS & AVG. Both free and easy to set up.
Keep your guns locked away, your liqueur out of reach and your Internet locked down when there are kids around.
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insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
Google has made it harder to stumble onto porn now, you have to be more specific in your searches like adding "nude", "porn", "naked", etc into the search otherwise you probably won't find anything that pornographic.
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Cheesecat wrote: Google has made it harder to stumble onto porn now, you have to be more specific in your searches like adding "nude", "porn", "naked", etc into the search otherwise you probably won't find anything that pornographic.
At last, a reason to use Bing.
Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote: I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
Cheesecat wrote: Google has made it harder to stumble onto porn now, you have to be more specific in your searches like adding "nude", "porn", "naked", etc into the search otherwise you probably won't find anything that pornographic.
And even then it will not autofill. It used to be that autofill would bring up high ranking porn results, as an example the loverly Alyson Hannigan:
Alyson Hannigan N...
Used to brink up "Alyson Hannigan Nude"
When you were typing in "Alyson Hannigan New film" or "Alyson Hannigan Natural hair color"
Now I have to type in Nude in full damit!
insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
Another aspect of the futility of 'blocking' online access to porn is that most if not all teenagers will have a porn stash on their harddrives (and are certain to be making one now). If teenagers are not savvy enough to get around filters they should at least know how to share files with each other.
Young teenagers have had access to porn for years via the school blackmarket. I had no difficulty obtaining porn, poor quality copies of 70's German films mostly, when I was in secondary school and that was well before the internet became available.
RegalPhantom wrote: If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
Warzone Plog
Orlanth wrote: All of a sudden he was not qualified to make such a moral judgement about events in his own house, and was trolled for them in following posts.
Why should he be able to make moral judgements about events in his own house when there are other adults living there? He is of course free to decide not to use porn himself, but I don't see why we should respect his decision to declare that everyone else in "his" house has to follow his moral beliefs.
Because it's his house.
If for example you moved into a flat and the landlady said 'no dogs allowed' and you promptly bought a dog would you be standing up for your rights, or being a dick.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Relapse wrote: We include pornography in these discussions at our house as humanity at some of it's lowest and basest levels. We are now raising our younger children in the same fashion. It's along the lines of teaching them what we believe to be correct principles in preparing them to govern themselves and hope we've done a good enough job by them.
@Dogma, We don't pretend human sexuality doesn't exist with our kids. They know from an early age what goes on in a relationship, but the stuff that they can access accidently or by design of the purveyors of this trash through disguised addresses like the map one I typed in for my daughter is beyond what a kid should see, I think.
I have to call this out. I hate it when someone makes such broad and insulting statements about things. Attacking porn from an assumption that it is "humanity at some of it's lowest and basest levels". I'm sorry, but I find that offensive. You have every right to think what you like about porn, and not watch it, but also have some respect for others.
Have some respect for those who do enjoy it, both watching and the people who are involved in it. Acting as though those involved in something perfectly legal and somehow almost sub human is wrong and lacking respect for the choices others have made. I have never seen someone beat someone to a bloody pulp because of watching porn, unlike alcohol. I have never heard of someone die a slow and painful death, unlike smoking. Most of the problems surrounding porn are down to the fact that it is treated as evil and something that must be hidden. The same with sex in general.
All of the studies I have seen in to the harm of porn either fail to show cause and effect, or have massive confirmation bias. They almost always study "the damage of porn" by looking at people with problems. It's like going to an AA meting to find out if alcohol is damaging. Its puritanical nonsense to say porn is "trash" and attack people who enjoy it. It dose annoy me. Society needs to be more open about sex not less.
I have to also question "r by design of the purveyors of this trash through disguised addresses like the map one I typed"... So you typed a URL in and it redirected you to some porn? Personally I have never had this, because of some basic net safety. I think this says more about your understanding of the Internet than the porn. There is no such thing as a "disguised address", but there is redirects, and if you are going to sites you can't trust like that, especially without proper controls in place your going to soon get much worse than a quick flash of porn whilst you close the browser. I hope you have an up to date virus scan in place. These are not some "evil plot" to force porn on you, they are money making attempts by con artists, hackers, or dodge businesses trying click fraud, knowing that porn is something that attracts people or stops them complaining through embarrassment.
To reiterate, don't watch porn if you don't want to, but please don't call names, and respect others legal choices.
If you have kids get a proper virus scanner, porn blocking software, and, preferably, learn how to block at router level. I recommend OpenDNS & AVG. Both free and easy to set up.
Keep your guns locked away, your liqueur out of reach and your Internet locked down when there are kids around.
I just call it as I see it, Steve. Just as you have your opinion, so I have mine. The address I typed was directly from the book, but it had apparently been pre empted by company that offered porn. This happened with Napster (one of the early sites that offered free music)when a porn company acquired it. People that had not heard about the takeover went to the site expecting music, but got something else entirely.
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
You know what I don't understand?
How a woman can be paid for sex and it's called prostitution, and therefore illegal...
...But if said same woman is paid for sex and filmed, it's called porn and therefore legal?
Also, how come people are allowed to have sex at 16, but can't watch videos of other people having sex until they're 18. Wuh?
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buddha wrote: I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
How a woman can be paid for sex and it's called prostitution, and therefore illegal...
Prostitution is legal in the UK.
Soliciting (i.e. kerb crawling), having sex with a prostitute under 18 and profiting from prostitution (i.e. owning a brothel are illegal). Don't worry though I'm sure that Dave will change that with his well thought out and not at all populist social engineering projects.
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RegalPhantom wrote: If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
Warzone Plog
Prostitution isn't always illegal, nor is it always exploitation. Unfortunately, it is both far more often than either or neither...but I would suggest looking up prostitution law in the UK. Short version, there are a few certain sanctioned places that are legally registered and are much more beneficial to the prostitutes themselves.
That second one? You got me there. Especially seeing as everyone can easily lay their hands on porn before 18 anyway, and not just on the Internet. I am a proud alumni of the college of "found a mag in the woods". :p
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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Some people are addicted to hardcore pornography, some to crack, some to molesting fish. Then there are those who collect thousands upon thousands of miniature orcs. And they need help, too.
For the uninitiated, Warhammer is a table-top battle game played with miniature figurines that comes in two forms: Warhammer fantasy and Warhammer sci-fi (it’s all the same crap, but the latter has guns). Armies of different creatures that bear more than a passing resemblance to those featured in Tolkien (orcs, goblins, knights, dwarves) fight to the death on the roll of a dice. Some people collect for the sake of winning battles, others (like muggins ‘ere) just for the sake of painting the models. The whole experience is pitched at teenage boys, but some of them never quite grow up and you’ll find men with dank pony tails still collecting well into their thirties. Emphasis upon “boys” and “men” – this underworld is no place for a lady.
The sport has some undeniable thrills and art to it, otherwise people wouldn’t become addicted. And here’s my own personal testimony. I started on the path to Warhammer addiction in secondary school via the choose-your-own-adventure Fighting Fantasy books (“If you say hello to the dwarf, turn to page 8. If you kick him, turn to page 10”). Killing trolls in book form was fun enough, but something inside of me demanded bigger thrills. One day I walked into a classroom at lunchtime and found a bunch of boys beating the living daylights out of each other with lizardmen. I was intrigued, and a shady kid called Barney told me that for just 10 quid I could have my own squadron of sweaty axe men. I started small – a few skirmishes in the changing rooms, an armed confrontation in the library – and soon worked my way up to a massive army of faux-French knights called Bretonnians. I got the painting bug and by age 15 I was getting through 10, maybe 20 archers a week. We’re talking two coats and a bucketful of superglue. Most evenings I was as high as a kite.
Although it now makes me sick to my stomach to think about it, I can’t deny there was some joy in my Warhammer problem. Boys get a unique kick out of collecting and owning things that other boys don’t have, in beating them in wits or being able to show off a magnificently painted griffin. But it did function like an addiction. Once you get hooked, you find that the price of the models creeps up and up with every year. New ones are always coming on the market, and every five years or so they change the rules completely – which necessitates buying a whole new bunch of stuff. One particularly scandalous change was when they decided that people could no longer populate their armies with powerful character models: for every shaman or berserker you now had to buy several regular units, too. Of course, if your pocket money runs low there are always street pushers like Barney who will palm you second hand models in exchange for the sordid indignity of doing his homework. But what he sells is always an older, inferior product. The rush isn't the same.
What got me off the habit? Girls. In my first week at university I visited the room of another collector and his shelves were covered in Space Marines. I thought, “Dude, you’re not going to get any action at all.” So I threw away my Bretonnian army and tried to put my past behind me. It lasted until halfway through my PhD, when I stumbled upon a website and found that the manufacturers had released a super cool new undead army. Lonely and gripped by self-loathing, I succumbed. A few days later, unshaven and sleepless, I found myself sitting amid a pile of skeleton warriors – looking on at the ruination of my life. A little while later, I threw it all in a dustbin and tried to get my stuff together. I’ve been clean ever since.
I'm in a bit of a "banning things" mood today, and while David Cameron's mind is on regulating porn I'd also like him to turn his attention to Warhammer. Of course, it won’t be enough just to throw the pushers in prison – there will have to treatment for the addicts, too. The painters could be encouraged to join art classes and the collectors given stamps. And for anyone who needs a fix, walk-in clinics can provide a limited dose of Warhammer to get them through the day (perhaps a small goblin to paint). But the war on collecting camp little miniatures is one worth fighting, Mr Cameron. If only to save the next generation of boys from the years of acne and sexual deprivation that inevitably follow.
"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch 
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