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Erm, I don't own the white dwarf codex, so I'm not sure if this correct, but could dominion squads take more than 2 special weapons with only 5 members in the squad? The dominion one-click bundle comes with 3 special weapons, so I was wondering if that may be a change in the new codex.

Haighus wrote:
Erm, I don't own the white dwarf codex, so I'm not sure if this correct, but could dominion squads take more than 2 special weapons with only 5 members in the squad? The dominion one-click bundle comes with 3 special weapons, so I was wondering if that may be a change in the new codex.

Currently is 2:5 but that may have changed to back to 4 again. Which would be cool.

Up to four special weapons if memory serves, for a squad of ten (five for a squad of two I think?). They're closer to IG special weapons squads in that regard.

It's 2 for 5, right now.

 Melissia wrote:
Up to four special weapons if memory serves, for a squad often (five for a squad of two I think?). They're closer to IG special weapons squads in that regard.

Nope it was definitely 2/5 for dominions. If we go 3/5 or just up to 4 that would rock.

andrewm9 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Up to four special weapons if memory serves, for a squad often (five for a squad of two I think?). They're closer to IG special weapons squads in that regard.

Nope it was definitely 2/5 for dominions. If we go 3/5 or just up to 4 that would rock.

She said that, she just combined 'of ten' to 'often'.

Yeah, it was a typo.

It would indeed rock but I think people would scream at us

On the other hand sales of Sisters as Allies may well go well. Given how much you have to pay for plastic HQ's (£18 for a basic Librarian IIRC?) and special stuff these days not sure that its that unattracitve a proposition as an allied contingent.

Of course we all know just buying a small force seldom stops there!

Given that basic Sisters can take 2 Special or 1 Heavy+1 Special in unit of five may not be that out there......

 Mr Morden wrote:
It would indeed rock but I think people would scream at us

On the other hand sales of Sisters as Allies may well go well. Given how much you have to pay for plastic HQ's (£18 for a basic Librarian IIRC?) and special stuff these days not sure that its that unattracitve a proposition as an allied contingent.

Of course we all know just buying a small force seldom stops there!

Given that basic Sisters can take 2 Special or 1 Heavy+1 Special in unit of five may not be that out there......

Let 'em cry! It's not like Dominons with Specials are free. They're over 20 points a model unless you take Stormbolters.

Luckily you get lots of stormbolters in the new bundles!

 Shandara wrote:
Luckily you get lots of stormbolters in the new bundles!

Yeah, but unless we get blessed bolt rounds again, I don't see much use for those.

Yeah, SBs are a bit pointless, especially on Dominion squads.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
Luckily you get lots of stormbolters in the new bundles!

Yeah, but unless we get blessed bolt rounds again, I don't see much use for those.

Conversions to Combi-Bolters.

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The best use of Sisters with SB model is to throw them at the face of your opponent if he/she is cheating !

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
Luckily you get lots of stormbolters in the new bundles!

Yeah, but unless we get blessed bolt rounds again, I don't see much use for those.

Conversions to Combi-Bolters.

Right, but those aren't exaclty using them as Stormbolters, now are they?

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Right, but those aren't exaclty using them as Stormbolters, now are they?

Nope, but it is using the models.

The best use for Storm Bolter models that I have seen is on superiors. For 3 points a pop, you get a little range. I have run them mostly on the Ret superior since it is actually helpful there and she can make it rending.

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Right, but those aren't exaclty using them as Stormbolters, now are they?

Nope, but it is using the models.

The best use for Storm Bolter models that I have seen is on superiors. For 3 points a pop, you get a little range. I have run them mostly on the Ret superior since it is actually helpful there and she can make it rending.

In this edition, it's the same range you already have with a bolter now, just 1 extra die thrown in.

I can see the merit of the RSS having one though, Rending does make it better.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
In this edition, it's the same range you already have with a bolter now, just 1 extra die thrown in.

That's what I meant.

Basically, for 15 points, you get a bunch of extra shots across 5 units. I probably wouldn't do it, but it is an option.

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
In this edition, it's the same range you already have with a bolter now, just 1 extra die thrown in.

That's what I meant.

Basically, for 15 points, you get a bunch of extra shots across 5 units. I probably wouldn't do it, but it is an option.

A not very good option, but yes, an option.

I presume storm bolters are a bad investment for Sisters because none of the units that can take them -- except maybe sort slightly Celestians -- should ever be assaulting, so Rapid Fire regular bolters are all you need?

I think we are veering a liitle off topic here folks, but I always thought that a squad like Dominions should have their basic weapon as a stormbolter giving some them more utility.

 SisterSydney wrote:
I presume storm bolters are a bad investment for Sisters because none of the units that can take them -- except maybe sort slightly Celestians -- should ever be assaulting, so Rapid Fire regular bolters are all you need?

Not really. Storm Bolters are a bad investment because, except in the case of superiors, they replace your other special / heavy weapon choices.

What would you rather have: an extra bolter shot or a melta/flamer/heavy flamer/multimelta?


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andrewm9 wrote:
I think we are veering a liitle off topic here folks, but I always thought that a squad like Dominions should have their basic weapon as a stormbolter giving some them more utility.

Agreed. A storm bolter unit would be cool. I would say Celestians though.

We're obsessing a lot over those storm bolters considering that swapping the gun for a special weapon from your bitz box should be a fairly easy conversion I suspect

 Bull0 wrote:
We're obsessing a lot over those storm bolters considering that swapping the gun for a special weapon from your bitz box should be a fairly easy conversion I suspect

lol no.



It is held against the body, so has to be carved out with a dremel or saw, smoothed and then another weapon added. It is much easier to just use a different model than try to convert a storm bolter sister. The easiest meltagun conversions come from extra heavy weapon models, in my opinion.

Or you could just buy the model with a melta.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Or you could just buy the model with a melta.

Yeah, but if you have to convert, there are definitely easier methods than converting bolter/storm bolter models.

 pretre wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
We're obsessing a lot over those storm bolters considering that swapping the gun for a special weapon from your bitz box should be a fairly easy conversion I suspect

lol no.

Spoiler:

It is held against the body, so has to be carved out with a dremel or saw, smoothed and then another weapon added. It is much easier to just use a different model than try to convert a storm bolter sister. The easiest meltagun conversions come from extra heavy weapon models, in my opinion.

Doesn't look so difficult to me. I used to bulls-eye womp rats in my T16 back home and they're not bigger than a couple meters. OBVIOUSLY it's a lot easier to use a model with a smaller gun, held further from the body, but this is the one in the one-click bundle, which was your jumping off point for all these comments about storm bolters.

 Bull0 wrote:
Doesn't look so difficult to me. I used to bulls-eye womp rats in my T16 back home and they're not bigger than a couple meters.

Umm... Yeah.

So anyways, back on topic...

Anyone been refreshing their 'My Downloads' screen on the Black Library hoping that someone hits the wrong button?

 pretre wrote:


Anyone been refreshing their 'My Downloads' screen on the Black Library hoping that someone hits the wrong button?

Um...no.

So anyways, back on topic...

 Bull0 wrote:

 pretre wrote:


Anyone been refreshing their 'My Downloads' screen on the Black Library hoping that someone hits the wrong button?

Um...no.

So anyways, back on topic...

Frantically waiting for the release the thread is about is on topic. Conversion opportunities or uses for storm bolters isn't.