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I agree with most of what everyone else says. But I would like to see something similar to the space marines "Chapter Tactics" To represent the different Orders.

There is all sorts of goodies you could just give them from the IG or SM. I would like to see them get a faction specific flier, and I would rather they get chimera instead of Rhinos.

 Lynata wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:Faith basically powering her resurrection is kind of awesome.

Heh, even fits into my theory about the nature of Living Saints.

I've always been a fan of the "Daemon Prince(sses) of the Emperor thing but mostly because it ties into the old Star Child fluff.


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Ralis wrote:
I agree with most of what everyone else says. But I would like to see something similar to the space marines "Chapter Tactics" To represent the different Orders.

There is all sorts of goodies you could just give them from the IG or SM. I would like to see them get a faction specific flier, and I would rather they get chimera instead of Rhinos.

I'm with you on the Order Traits thing. Each Order has a pretty unique personality after all. I'd still be happy with that being a supplement thing just so we could get a whole lot more Sisters fluff.

Chimeras are lame. At least Sisters bling their Rhinos.

Valkyries and Avengers in the codex FTW.

Order traits would be interesting, as long as it's nothing major that breaks their uniformity/connection.

ClockworkZion wrote:Valkyries and Avengers in the codex FTW.

Avengers are ugly. Lightnings Go!

Plus, the original Lightning seems OOP at FW, so might actually have a chance at being picked up by GW?

 Lynata wrote:
Order traits would be interesting, as long as it's nothing major that breaks their uniformity/connection.

ClockworkZion wrote:Valkyries and Avengers in the codex FTW.

Avengers are ugly. Lightnings Go!

Plus, the original Lightning seems OOP at FW, so might actually have a chance at being picked up by GW?

No, FW replaced the old one with this: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Navy/VOSS_PATTERN_LIGHTNING_STRIKE_FIGHTER.html

And I happen to like the Avenger. That bolt cannon makes things cry.

Yes, but the Voss looks ugly, too. I want the original Lightning for the SoB, and that one is OOP.

Maybe it's part because the Sisters had it in Soulstorm - but I also think the wing configuration is much prettier. It's ... aquila-style.

 Lynata wrote:
Maybe it's part because the Sisters had it in Soulstorm - but I also think the wing configuration is much prettier. It's ... aquila-style.

Speaking of soulstorm... How about a DK/Wraithknight size living saint? Can you imagine Celestine blown up a couple times with additional detail? It would be awesome.

pretre wrote:Speaking of soulstorm... How about a DK/Wraithknight size living saint? Can you imagine Celestine blown up a couple times with additional detail? It would be awesome.

Ouphh... not sure if want.

Maybe if you change her into a being of light with only vaguely human features - so basically, less detail, more glow. Not a big fan of a simple upscaling, but I could see it work as a clearly supernatural phenomenon.

 Lynata wrote:

pretre wrote:Speaking of soulstorm... How about a DK/Wraithknight size living saint? Can you imagine Celestine blown up a couple times with additional detail? It would be awesome.

Ouphh... not sure if want.

Maybe if you change her into a being of light with only vaguely human features. Not a big fan of a simple upscaling, but I could see it work as a clearly supernatural phenomenon.

Take a page from the new transcendent C'Tan? Giant being of light with energy streaming off?



edit: Yeah, I like the image you posted.


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Of course, that's mostly down to painting.

meh_ wrote:

hawkroot on warseer about new sob digidex wrote:

oh boy

Not cool to use my name to spread fake rumours.

 Kroothawk wrote:

meh_ wrote:

hawkroot on warseer about new sob digidex wrote:

oh boy

Not cool to use my name to spread fake rumours.

I'm hoping he learned his lesson.

 pretre wrote:

 Lynata wrote:

pretre wrote:Speaking of soulstorm... How about a DK/Wraithknight size living saint? Can you imagine Celestine blown up a couple times with additional detail? It would be awesome.

Ouphh... not sure if want.

Maybe if you change her into a being of light with only vaguely human features. Not a big fan of a simple upscaling, but I could see it work as a clearly supernatural phenomenon.

Take a page from the new transcendent C'Tan? Giant being of light with energy streaming off?

Spoiler:

edit: Yeah, I like the image you posted.


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Of course, that's mostly down to painting.

Transcendant C'Tan isn't that big though. He's maybe Dreadnought sized in volume.

ClockworkZion wrote:
Transcendant C'Tan isn't that big though. He's maybe Dreadnought sized in volume.

I meant more of the streaming energy thing, not the size.


I kinda want something like a Celestine made of light with wings like Tyrael from Diablo 2. (The big light loopy things)

Basically this old chestnut then?

Thinking of things to add to the army:



Better than a combi weapon!

Meh. That's just silly.

 pretre wrote:
Meh. That's just silly.

What about bolters that ignore cover and have armorbane?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Meh. That's just silly.

What about bolters that ignore cover and have armorbane?

No.


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What about letting sisters buy Sternguard ammo (one kind per squad)?

Or letting certain squads get them. I.e. Celestians get Hellfire for 1ppm or free swap but they can only use that one.


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Or one use per battle. That's a lot of bookkeeping though.

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Meh. That's just silly.

What about bolters that ignore cover and have armorbane?

No.


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What about letting sisters buy Sternguard ammo (one kind per squad)?

Or letting certain squads get them. I.e. Celestians get Hellfire for 1ppm or free swap but they can only use that one.

Blessed Bolts and Holy Promethium need to return.

Bolts could easily be our Sternguard ammo (Ignore Cover like it used to or some new trick, like AP4 or Shred) and the Promethium could definitely be a Shred thing, or a bonus to the AP (or both ).

I was kidding about the obviously broken idea of Bolters that ignore cover and have armorbane. Mostly. It'd be hilarious though.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Blessed Bolts and Holy Promethium need to return.

Bolts could easily be our Sternguard ammo (Ignore Cover like it used to or some new trick, like AP4 or Shred) and the Promethium could definitely be a Shred thing, or a bonus to the AP (or both ).

Yeah, I think ignore cover for some of our units would be pretty sweet.

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Blessed Bolts and Holy Promethium need to return.

Bolts could easily be our Sternguard ammo (Ignore Cover like it used to or some new trick, like AP4 or Shred) and the Promethium could definitely be a Shred thing, or a bonus to the AP (or both ).

Yeah, I think ignore cover for some of our units would be pretty sweet.

AP bonuses could be awesome too. AP3 Heavy Flamers/Bolters? Sign me up!

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Blessed Bolts and Holy Promethium need to return.

Bolts could easily be our Sternguard ammo (Ignore Cover like it used to or some new trick, like AP4 or Shred) and the Promethium could definitely be a Shred thing, or a bonus to the AP (or both ).

Yeah, I think ignore cover for some of our units would be pretty sweet.

AP bonuses could be awesome too. AP3 Heavy Flamers/Bolters? Sign me up!

+1 AP for Holy Promethium.

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Blessed Bolts and Holy Promethium need to return.

Bolts could easily be our Sternguard ammo (Ignore Cover like it used to or some new trick, like AP4 or Shred) and the Promethium could definitely be a Shred thing, or a bonus to the AP (or both ).

Yeah, I think ignore cover for some of our units would be pretty sweet.

AP bonuses could be awesome too. AP3 Heavy Flamers/Bolters? Sign me up!

+1 AP for Holy Promethium.

I think it'd be a nice way to set the Sisters apart from other armies who use lots of burning (Salamanders namely) and making it a pay-upgrade (10pt for the unit for each maybe) means it isn't just taken because it's free and the cost spreads out nicely depending on how many models it affects.

Of course Retributors with Heavy Bolters then become silly and awesome. AP3 with Rending? Nothing is safe!

Holy Promethium - +1 AP for Flamer Weapons
Blessed Bolts - Ignores Cover for Bolter Weapons
Consecrated Power Cells - +3" Range for Melta Weapons

Or Holy Promethium giving the flamers Soul Blaze. And Blessed Ammo with Soul Blaze. And power weapons with Soul Blaze. And Eviscerators with Soul Blaze for "Repentia Champion" characters. Yes, I know people dislike the bookkeeping, but it's so appropriate.

Also "shining swords" that are master-crafted power weapons that can do a one-shot Blind attack on the first round of assault as they dazzle the enemy with the light of the Emperor.

Also more tanks, because I love tanks. Predator Infernus, Predator with Avenger Bolt Cannon, and some kind of fast scout tank on a Rhino chassis, like an even-more-fragile Hellhound (call it the Oriflamme).

[Edit: Oh, and Valkyries. BS4 Valkyries with multi-meltas instead of lascannon].

As for Frateris of various kinds, I'd like to see them contribute Faith Points to the army: They can't use Acts of Faith themselves, they lack the Sisters' focus, but their raw passion boosts the gestalt psychic field from which the Sisters draw the power for their Acts.

My inclination would be to make Faith Points something you get at the start of the game and spend throughout, as per Witchhunters -- what's the argument for keeping it turn by turn?

Meh, Soul Blaze is a bookkeeping ability and I'm not a fan of them.

Blind might be cool.

Frateris generate but can't use. Maybe Zealots/Redemptionists generate and can use (unit upgrade).

I actually like the points per turn. When it was per game, I had a tendency to hoard them and spend them all in one or two turns.

 pretre wrote:
Holy Promethium - +1 AP for Flamer Weapons
Blessed Bolts - Ignores Cover for Bolter Weapons
Consecrated Power Cells - +3" Range for Melta Weapons

I like it!

Though I think the Melta range should be an even number to keep the product even so the half range isn't something like "7.5".

 SisterSydney wrote:
Or Holy Promethium giving the flamers Soul Blaze. And Blessed Ammo with Soul Blaze. And power weapons with Soul Blaze. And Eviscerators with Soul Blaze for "Repentia Champion" characters. Yes, I know people dislike the bookkeeping, but it's so appropriate.

Soul Blaze seems to be more about burning people's actual souls... Though I think we used to set people on fire so maybe all the flamer weapons we have should do that anyways.

 SisterSydney wrote:
Also "shining swords" that are master-crafted power weapons that can do a one-shot Blind attack on the first round of assault as they dazzle the enemy with the light of the Emperor.

Blessed Blades need to make a return. +2S, AP3, Blind. I'd use it!

 SisterSydney wrote:
Also more tanks, because I love tanks. Predator Infernus, Predator with Avenger Bolt Cannon, and some kind of fast scout tank on a Rhino chassis, like an even-more-fragile Hellhound (call it the Oriflamme).

[Edit: Oh, and Valkyries. BS4 Valkyries with multi-meltas instead of lascannon].

Don't forget that we have stuff to steal from the Guard too! Inferno Cannon and Melta Cannon both seem like nice light tank options. And now that the Imperium as an AV12/12/10 vehicle it opens things up for us to get something in the same vein (my vote is AV 12/11/10 but make it fast and stick it in the fast attack slot).

 SisterSydney wrote:
As for Frateris of various kinds, I'd like to see them contribute Faith Points to the army: They can't use Acts of Faith themselves, they lack the Sisters' focus, but their raw passion boosts the gestalt psychic field from which the Sisters draw the power for their Acts.

My inclination would be to make Faith Points something you get at the start of the game and spend throughout, as per Witchhunters -- what's the argument for keeping it turn by turn?

Redemptionists could use Faith....maybe giving them Shield of Faith as a Faith Power?

And by turn means we can keep these less "miraculious" powers that don't do things like give us Invuls equal to our armor or give us S5 Sisters who strike at I1 and instead ones that feel more appropiate (I really do feel the current powers feel more like how Acts should feel). Plus it means we don't pour 13 points into a single mob in one turn just to make them good all of a sudden.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Though I think the Melta range should be an even number to keep the product even so the half range isn't something like "7.5".

Sure. Make it 4" or 6"

Redemptionists could use Faith....maybe giving them Shield of Faith as a Faith Power?

That's way too weak for a faith point. 6++ for a FP? Yuck.

And by turn means we can keep these less "miraculious" powers that don't do things like give us Invuls equal to our armor or give us S5 Sisters who strike at I1 and instead ones that feel more appropiate (I really do feel the current powers feel more like how Acts should feel). Plus it means we don't pour 13 points into a single mob in one turn just to make them good all of a sudden.

I like the miraculous powers though. Strength, FNP, Speed, Rallying. Those are all cool. Although, I liked the 4+ standup better than the invul. And pouring faith makes it even more miraculous!

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Though I think the Melta range should be an even number to keep the product even so the half range isn't something like "7.5".

Sure. Make it 4" or 6"

6" would be awesome. 30" Multi-Meltas!

Redemptionists could use Faith....maybe giving them Shield of Faith as a Faith Power?

That's way too weak for a faith point. 6++ for a FP? Yuck.

The problem with these sorts of threads is all the awesome ideas that people come up with... and then the book comes out.

Hope is, as they say, the first step on the road to disappointment.

 Psienesis wrote:
The problem with these sorts of threads is all the awesome ideas that people come up with... and then the book comes out.

Hope is, as they say, the first step on the road to disappointment.

It's just something to pass the time on a Friday.


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 ClockworkZion wrote:
so your mob of Sisters can go punch out Thunderhammer Terminators.

Maybe those termies should have thought about it before they went ahead and committed heresy.

 pretre wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
The problem with these sorts of threads is all the awesome ideas that people come up with... and then the book comes out.

Hope is, as they say, the first step on the road to disappointment.

It's just something to pass the time on a Friday.

Pretty much. Plus it's fun.