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So would you guys recommend purchasing/converting an Avenger Strike Fighter?

 Celtic Strike wrote:
One is played by Tommy Lee Jones, the other is played by Clint Eastwood

Ha! Which one is which?

 Ovion wrote:

Brother Michael wrote:

ncshooter426 wrote:
Thanks for the info gents! On a side note - is there anywhere (other than GW directly) to pick up AS stuff? I scoured greedbay but didn't find much pickins'

There are three problems with buying sisters:
first of all: new models are emperor-damned expensive.
secondly: second-hand sisters aren't readily available, unless you either want to buy whole armies or pay for the shipping of individual models.
thirdly: there are as good as no alternative models for sisters, as the 'space warrior nun' concept is way too specific for most companies. You might find one or two, but no army-building stuff.

Sisters are simply really expensive to play unless you have a friend who just happens to want to get rid of his...

Sadly, when I've found Sisters unless you're buying in bulk (see - a whole army), it's either much the same price or MORE than buying new from Games Workshop. O-o

THOUGH, if someone (or a group of someones) wanted to get together say... £25,000 (£19,000 for the Haptic Pen, £1000 for the various hardware upgrades and equipment I need and about £5000 to live on for the 6-12 months it'd take to do the work) I'd have enough money to purchase the tools that would let me sculpt, print and cast an army of something suitable for counts-as.

That's not a bad deal tbh.
92 Items designed, compiled into sprues, printed to masters and molds made at roughly £272 each (58 Weapons and pieces of Gear, 24 Infantry models, 6 Vehicles and 4 vehicle upgrades.)
Then whoever paid would get an armies worth of models, then there'd be sensibly priced models available!

(I somehow doubt it'll happen, but PM me if you're crazy enough to do it. It'll likely be a stretch goal on my Kickstarter too if no ones done it before I get it set up.)

I was about to say kickstarter, lol

Make sure you make a "French Maiden of Space" Kickstarter =P

I am quite sure the Fleur-de-Lis is not copyrighted...


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 OutlawBandit wrote:
So would you guys recommend purchasing/converting an Avenger Strike Fighter?

Yes! One of the only solutions for sisters V MEQ (worth the points)

In my games it clears 1 ten-man Squad a turn and usually lives for quite a few turn (1-2 turns to focus their AA with exorcists/ Command Squad and you're good to go)



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Also relevant to "Plastic sisters" & Alternatives, have people seen These

Only 1 forum thread about IT, and quite recent too...

If anyone can share more info about them i'm interested... They look really good, even if the price is a bit high...
Looking for the guy's site/ store/ whatevs =D

 BlackTalos wrote:

 Ovion wrote:

Brother Michael wrote:

ncshooter426 wrote:

Spoiler:

Thanks for the info gents! On a side note - is there anywhere (other than GW directly) to pick up AS stuff? I scoured greedbay but didn't find much pickins'

Spoiler:

There are three problems with buying sisters:
first of all: new models are emperor-damned expensive.
secondly: second-hand sisters aren't readily available, unless you either want to buy whole armies or pay for the shipping of individual models.
thirdly: there are as good as no alternative models for sisters, as the 'space warrior nun' concept is way too specific for most companies. You might find one or two, but no army-building stuff.

Sisters are simply really expensive to play unless you have a friend who just happens to want to get rid of his...

Spoiler:

Sadly, when I've found Sisters unless you're buying in bulk (see - a whole army), it's either much the same price or MORE than buying new from Games Workshop. O-o

THOUGH, if someone (or a group of someones) wanted to get together say... £25,000 (£19,000 for the Haptic Pen, £1000 for the various hardware upgrades and equipment I need and about £5000 to live on for the 6-12 months it'd take to do the work) I'd have enough money to purchase the tools that would let me sculpt, print and cast an army of something suitable for counts-as.

That's not a bad deal tbh.
92 Items designed, compiled into sprues, printed to masters and molds made at roughly £272 each (58 Weapons and pieces of Gear, 24 Infantry models, 6 Vehicles and 4 vehicle upgrades.)
Then whoever paid would get an armies worth of models, then there'd be sensibly priced models available!

(I somehow doubt it'll happen, but PM me if you're crazy enough to do it. It'll likely be a stretch goal on my Kickstarter too if no ones done it before I get it set up.)

I was about to say kickstarter, lol

Make sure you make a "French Maiden of Space" Kickstarter =P

I am quite sure the Fleur-de-Lis is not copyrighted...

Unfortunately, I don't think a £25,000 kickstarter to do them will be best to start... but I'll include it as an option fully expecting no one to do it, and maybe I'll make a dedicated Kickstarter to making particular races later on.

I've decided that the overbearing group for my buildings, weapons and such is the Hierarchs.
So the Hierarch Force Field Generator and so on.

The Fleur De Lis based stuff will be the Knights Chevalier Femme, an arm of the Hierarch military.

 OutlawBandit wrote:
So would you guys recommend purchasing/converting an Avenger Strike Fighter?

Convert from Dark Angels flyer. I did it!


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 Ovion wrote:
Sadly, when I've found Sisters unless you're buying in bulk (see - a whole army), it's either much the same price or MORE than buying new from Games Workshop. O-o

Really? I've never paid that much. And I sell the ones I have in the swap shop for 60% of retail. Sisters are a great secondary market.

Has anyone else had problems with their Sisters having their transports having suffered a stunned result screwing up their next turns shooting?

 Mr Morden wrote:
Has anyone else had problems with their Sisters having their transports having suffered a stunned result screwing up their next turns shooting?

Of course, although it is much less likely nowadays than it used to be. Most of the time they have to deal with exploded vehicles. I find that the protection and mobility outweighs the snap shots most of the time.

Yeah but you don't even get snap shots - you can't fire at all?

Oh yeah, there is that. It comes up so seldomly for me, I forgot.

Really - that's interesting - I tend to get it reasonably often as when you roll for a number of penetrating hits they tend to come up! Ah well - I love my Sisters but luck seems to escape me when I use them!

Yeah, I realize this is house ruley, but we ignore the lesser results if it wrecks or explodes generally. Less bookkeeping.

 pretre wrote:
Yeah, I realize this is house ruley, but we ignore the lesser results if it wrecks or explodes generally. Less bookkeeping.

We sometimes used to do that but on recently on reading the rule that what happens to the vehicle affects the passengers I sort of felt you had I had to ask the opponent to roll all of them.................I don't mind the wrecked or explodes as can act normally with the survivors - ironically the stunned result is actually in my opinion much worse as you can only move......

Yeah. Although pinning / Death by explosion suck too.

 pretre wrote:
Yeah. Although pinning / Death by explosion suck too.

hmm at least with explosions you get to choose who dies in a squad (I think)

Yeah, but T3 can take a lot of wounds from explosions. I've had some nasty results there.

pretre wrote:

 Ovion wrote:
Sadly, when I've found Sisters unless you're buying in bulk (see - a whole army), it's either much the same price or MORE than buying new from Games Workshop. O-o

Really? I've never paid that much. And I sell the ones I have in the swap shop for 60% of retail. Sisters are a great secondary market.

When I was looking on ebay last, you got BSS sort of cheaper, but none of the celestine / repentia / penitent engines / seraphim I saw were cheaper than buying new from GW (especially once you include postage), and bought new I wouldn't have to strip the paint.

Well, that's ebay for you.

I would recommend local forums, Dakka's Swap Shop and Bartertown. My threads in particular.

Sadly you are across the pond so can;t really get them from you ;(

However have had too small well painted sisters armies off Ebay -plus lots of odds and ends - never paid over retail.

True. That's what you get for not living in the US.

Isn't it a bit cold over there

 Mr Morden wrote:
Isn't it a bit cold over there

Not where I am. It's a balmy 45 and rainy right now. Proper British weather from what I understand.

 pretre wrote:
True. That's what you get for not living in the US.

Yeah, but the bonus is you're not living in the US.

It's a great country to be upper-middle-class and healthy. It's a lousy country to be poor, and a terrible country to be poor and sick. I'm a proud American patriot but that doesn't make me blind.

Sorry, off topic, but I had to raise the flag for a moment there.

So the local store is running some new-player (and old) 500pt list matches coming up. Based on what I already own, I was thinking of just using a foot-heavy build. Any recommendations? Just blob sisters, or throw in a mix of fast attack for disruption?

One thing I was unclear of in the codex is the Banner. Is it restricted to only the celestian in a command squad, or just celestians in a std. celestian squad? It only mentions it under the command squad, but in some threads I've read celestians taking them out (without a cannoness).

Is it normal FOC? That might affect your choices

 Mr Morden wrote:
Is it normal FOC? That might affect your choices

"Games Rules
- Force Organization must be followed (Page 109)"

At 500, Celestine, 2 Sisters Squads and maybe some Rets or Seraphim.

Being you're limited to this:

(I don't know if I needed to post the FoC, but I'm gonna use it at every oppurtunity to justify the effort in making it )
At 500pts, you still need the 2 squads of BSS.

This is a LOT less restrictive than it used to be, being min185pts (Canoness, 2x5 Sisters) dedicated to the requirement than the previous 315.

The other thing to bear in mind, is people can (and quite possibly will), fit 1-2 heavy tanks, or 3-5 light vehicels in 500pts, or even a flyer.
Be sure to be prepared for this. (You could potentially fit a Land Raider in to 500pts... and honestly, I'm the sort who might just for giggles.)

For example, 2 Venoms, 2x5 Warriors, 2x Ravagers with Flickerfields and a Haemonculi.
Or 2x3 Wracks, 2x Venoms, a Ravager and a Razorwing flyer.
Or say, 2x6 Firewarrior, Ethearal, Hammerhead and Sniper Drones.
Or 2 Vindicators.

Hilariously, you can also manage a small allied list for giggles.

But I'd possibly say Jacobus with some Rets for your heavy support, the mandatory 2 BSS (possibly with Heavy Bolters, but that's me).
Then some Seraphim for a bit of fast pressure (maybe actually with melta pistols to dealwith armour?)

He said Avengers ASSEMBLE!

Awesome. Just so much fun to say.

 pretre wrote:

 OutlawBandit wrote:
So would you guys recommend purchasing/converting an Avenger Strike Fighter?

Convert from Dark Angels flyer. I did it!

Yeah, same here