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How about instead of fighting against Knights, fighting WITH them? I am setting up this 2000 point list to start with:

HQ 125 pts
Canoness, Book of Saint Lucius (Warlord – Strategic Traits)
Inquisitor, Divination, Force Sword

Troops 750 pts
6 units of 5x Sisters, 1x Flamer, Immolator with MM

Heavy 375 pts
3x Exorcist

Allied Detachment 750 pts
2x Knight Paladins

That's 6 MM Immolators, 3 Exorcists, 2 Knight Paladins, and an Inquisitor twin-linking. I think it's a rounded list with plenty of Str8 AP1 in the tanks, and blob control or MC control with the Knights.

Is there anything anywhere that talks about the Sisters joining forces with Knights? I'd like to have a themed army with Knights and Sisters bearing the same colors and blending the Knights' Heraldry to go along with the Sisters.

 davidgr33n wrote:
Is there anything anywhere that talks about the Sisters joining forces with Knights? I'd like to have a themed army with Knights and Sisters bearing the same colors and blending the Knights' Heraldry to go along with the Sisters.

Freeblades. That's the fluffy explanation for nearly every allied detachment of knights. I though I read somewhere that they aren't directly ruled by the Imperium like everyone else, so it's unlikely they worship the Emperor as a god, if at all. If you want to have knightly allies, either convert them and say they are the AS' own engines, or write them in as freeblade allies.

The Imperium is a huge and heterogenous place -- even if most Knight Worlds don't worship the Emperor, I'm sure there are plenty that do, or that even pledge fealty directly to the Ecclesiarchy.

Also, I homebrewed this deep-striking Sororitas Knight with wings that only your closest friends would be willing to play against.

While Sisters are unlikely to have their own Knight due to the structure of the organisation, Mercs hired, especially on retainer / long contract will often repaint in the colours / uniforms of the organisation they are with for some coherency (and so they're not picked out in the crowd)

Agreed*. Knight Houses pledged to the Ecclesiarchy and affiliated for centuries with a particular Order Militant, even more so. You could do some very interesting quartered heraldry with the Sororitas Order's colors & insignia on part of the Knight and its native House's on the other.

* When I said "Sororitas Knight," I really meant "Knight for the Codex:Adepta Sororitas army list," not part of the organization proper -- rather like battle conclaves, priests, etc. being part of the army but not of the Sisterhood itself.

I could totally see a bunch of knight pilots being super faithful to the Emperor and pledging themselves to the Sisters cause.

Sort of how marines don't worship the Emperor as a god but the Black Templar's do.

The Imperium is a big place there are exceptions to everything.

Thanks for the ideas, it will look really cool to have Knights next to Sisters, with the Knights bearing banners and iconography showing their "allegiance" to the Ecclesiarchy.

On a side note, I've been toying with the idea of swapping an Exorcist with the Avenger Strike Fighter for the anti-air component my list needs. A year ago I wouldn't have even considered this as the Avenger isn't a part of mainstream 40k, but with all the changes that have happened to the game since our Codex came out, I think almost anything goes now. So does anyone else use the Avenger as part of their army? Do you get any "grief" from other players for using it? Also, is the Avenger even considered competitive? I know it's no Vendetta, but other than its weak armor it looks sturdy enough. Thoughts?

Also on Avengers: Is there a (legal) way to get the damned rules without shelling out a couple million dollars for Aeronautica? It's not in Death from the Skies or the new Sisters codex or anywhere else I can find.

And my post with pics got deleted for some mysterious reason.

One of the Knight Houses (stormshroud?) members have the tradition of taking on the heraldry of particularly honored forces that they fight in support of, they are even known to attach themselves for considerable periods to those units. Basically becoming a freeblade that when they do return to the House, will be honored because of their attachment to such an honorable force. Certainly wouldn't be hard to see them doing so with the Adepta Sororitas.

Besides, they have a fracking Melta Battle Cannon!!!

My reply got removed too. O_o

- I was saying that I think the Avenger Rules are in IA2.2.
Or not... I'm sure there was something more recent than IA:A though.

IA: Aeronautica has the latest rules for the ones that Sisters can take.

Fall of Orpheus has rules for using them as an Imperial Navy Squadron for the FW Army List in that book.

Will there be a new version of Aeronautica soonish? I'd hate to spend lots on something that might become obsolete.

No idea.

 Shandara wrote:
IA: Aeronautica has the latest rules for the ones that Sisters can take.

Fall of Orpheus has rules for using them as an Imperial Navy Squadron for the FW Army List in that book.

Just double checking, but IA: Aeronautica does have 3HP right?

Aeronautica has 2HP.

 sfshilo wrote:
Taking this to Dark Star GT in Minneapolis.

Uriah

3x squads of five Battle Sisters with flamer, storm bolter, and plasma pistol. Priest in each squad. Multi melta immolator with storm bolter

One squad of thirteen with combi flamer, two flamers, heavy flamer immolator. Priest attached with book.

Melta dominion squad with combi melta and immolator with multi melta.

Nine seraphims with two sets of hand flamers.

Exorcist with storm bolter.

Hereticus inquisiter with null rod and inferno pistol in power armour. Has the book with scout on turn one. Three servo skulls.

Three squads of five psykers. Chimera with two heavy bolters with psybolt ammo.

Aegis defense line.

I have had alot of luck with this list. I guess I will find out this weekend how much.
My gallery has some photos, I will be updating with more

Went 2-2-1, tie and one of the losses was 100% my fault, totally brain farted this year. Other loss was a daemon/csm beast spam with a crap ton of LOS blocking and a kill point mission. (Yeah, it was that bad)

Changes to this list...

I would remove on of the MSU troop squads and put in another dominion foot squad with a priest and anti infantry (flamers or storm bolters) to outflank with.

This army can damn near fight anything in CC. Uriah IMO is mandatory, pair him with any variety of sisters and another priest and watch them go to town.

Having one Exorcist with those psykers did what I thought, they ignored it and went after the chimeras.

SOOO much firepower, I was pooring 40+ hits a turn into opponents when all my stuff was on the table.

Seraphams with a priest are my dark horse, they just do alot for the points.

Thinking of trying this for forthcoming local tourney - 1500pts, limited Highlander (can duplicate troops and Dedicated Transports)

Cannoness, Mantle, Combi-Melta
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor, 3 Servo Skulls, Plasma Syphon, Divination
3 Squads of 5 Sisters with Meltagun and flamer, Immolator with MM,
Exorcist with Storm Bolter,
5 Dominons with 2 Meltas, Immolator with MM
Retirbutors with 2 Hv Bolters, 1 MM, Simulacrum, Immolator with MM
Ageis With Quad Gun
Knight Errent.

thoughts?

 Mr Morden wrote:
Thinking of trying this for forthcoming local tourney - 1500pts, limited Highlander (can duplicate troops and Dedicated Transports)

Cannoness, Mantle, Combi-Melta
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor, 3 Servo Skulls, Plasma Syphon, Divination
3 Squads of 5 Sisters with Meltagun and flamer, Immolator with MM,
Exorcist with Storm Bolter,
5 Dominons with 2 Meltas, Immolator with MM
Retirbutors with 2 Hv Bolters, 1 MM, Simulacrum, Immolator with MM
Ageis With Quad Gun
Knight Errent.

thoughts?

Do you really mean flamer or heavy flamer in those sister squads? I see also you take a few special squads without their full complement of special/heavy weapons. Cannoness gets no invuln save? Your inquisitor has no vehicle to ride in to get him to a place where his plasma siphon can matter.

Hmm yes forgot the Rosarius - opps

I was thinking about the Inquisitor with the Retributors?

Not sure what to drop to get more weapons?

Sadly, allied troops can never use eachother's transports. So the inquisitor is somewhat stuck on foot, also that squad is full of heavy weapons. Moving it means a lot of snap firing.

There's two ways to go. You could lose that squads transport and finance the special weapons that way then attach the inquisitor to it.

You could also drop the retributors entirely, replace them with three servitors (you can even keep the same special weapons that they had) in a chimera with psybolt ammo and 2 heavy bolters. Now the inquisitor has a ride, but again, you don't really want to move a heavy weapons squad unless you have to.

One thought though retributors + immolator + 3 special weapons and a simulacrum = 160 points.

Chimera + psybolt ammo + 3 servitors = 90 points.

You could pick up a jokaero weaponsmith for 35 points, and still have 35 left over for a rosarius and 2 special weapons for the dominions. The Jokaero is a second MM or lascannon and you have a chance to get rending all the time (or 12" extra inches of shooting).

Sfsbilo: Seraphim with a priest? How does he keep up with jump troops?

I'm a little more confused about the squad of thirteen with an immolator. Don't squads have to deploy inside their dedicated transports?

Mavnas wrote:
I'm a little more confused about the squad of thirteen with an immolator. Don't squads have to deploy inside their dedicated transports?

Nope :-)

No.

Only the squad bought with the Dedicated Transport may start inside it, but it doesn't have to.

Of course being 13 large it can't start in it, so it starts empty.

 Ovion wrote:
Aeronautica has 2HP.

So why is the "most recent" 3HP, it's the Guard one right? (Steel legion i think?) which book is that?

So... I could in fact take the Reclusiam Command Squad Dataslate and put them all on bikes and just have a Razorback hanging around... (not that freeing up an allies slot is really all that useful once you've burned that many points).

Mavnas wrote:
Sadly, allied troops can never use eachother's transports. So the inquisitor is somewhat stuck on foot, also that squad is full of heavy weapons. Moving it means a lot of snap firing.

There's two ways to go. You could lose that squads transport and finance the special weapons that way then attach the inquisitor to it.

You could also drop the retributors entirely, replace them with three servitors (you can even keep the same special weapons that they had) in a chimera with psybolt ammo and 2 heavy bolters. Now the inquisitor has a ride, but again, you don't really want to move a heavy weapons squad unless you have to.

One thought though retributors + immolator + 3 special weapons and a simulacrum = 160 points.

Chimera + psybolt ammo + 3 servitors = 90 points.

You could pick up a jokaero weaponsmith for 35 points, and still have 35 left over for a rosarius and 2 special weapons for the dominions. The Jokaero is a second MM or lascannon and you have a chance to get rending all the time (or 12" extra inches of shooting).

thanks, I was thinking about the Retibutors, the Inquisitor and the Exorcist being based at the Ageis Defence line, the immolator is just to give me the extra one not for them to use.......

Sadly I don't currently have the gun servitor models or a Chimera but may have to consider it..................

Oh... You could just take an extra retributive with MM and use the points you save to buy the other stuff.

So does anyone else use the Avenger as part of their army? Do you get any "grief" from other players for using it? Also, is the Avenger even considered competitive? I know it's no Vendetta, but other than its weak armor it looks sturdy enough. Thoughts?

I like it, it provides good longer range anti armour and infantry and if you take missile launchers it does provide some anti tank support as well. I do wish it was a fast attack choice instead of a heavy. I have considered allying IG to fit that into my list while keeping both exorcists and the retributor squad.

Also on the forgeworld download page there is a pdf to the Death Korps Of Krieg list. The stats for the Avenger is in there with the proper HP (2). It doesn't have the listing to state its for Sisters Of Battle and Imperial Guard, but at least it gives you the stats, point costs and options.