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I suspect at this point it's either blow up the FOC or throw out the non-standard codexes (Knights, Inquisition, etc. etc.), pick one.

I honestly prefer blowing up the FOC. Ok, you have to have at least 1 HQ, and you had better have some troops to score, but otherwise go cRazY.

 Ovion wrote:
I normally post stuff here for you guys, so here you go.
Updated FoC

Looks nice but you got the Inquisition wrong. You can take a Primary Inquisition detachment + an Inquisition detachment. It's Knights that can't do both as they can't ally with themselves.

 Ovion wrote:
I normally post stuff here for you guys, so here you go.
Updated FoC

Spoiler:

thank you thats a great resource

Loopstah wrote:

 Ovion wrote:
I normally post stuff here for you guys, so here you go.
Updated FoC

Looks nice but you got the Inquisition wrong. You can take a Primary Inquisition detachment + an Inquisition detachment. It's Knights that can't do both as they can't ally with themselves.

My problem with people saying Inquisition can take a Primary Inquisitioroial Detachment AND an Inquistorial Detachment is the wording of the entry:
"When you choose an army, Inquisitors may be taken as a primary detachment or as a special form of allied detachment known as an Inquisitorial detachment." <- Key word here OR.

"If you take Inquisitors as a primary detachment, use the Inquisitorial detachment Force Organisation chart instead of the primary detachment Force Organisation chart.
Alternatively, an army may include an Inquisitorial detachment in addition to any other detachments." <- Key word ALTERNATIVELY.

The other ones with the alternate Primary (LotD, Imperial Knights) and special detachment don't state that, and LotD specifically states you can take both.

I think we need a Codex: anti-air.

I like the detachment thing because I can ally my SOB with IF and have the inquisitor leading them. I like the fluff that can come from it.

 Ovion wrote:

Loopstah wrote:

 Ovion wrote:
I normally post stuff here for you guys, so here you go.
Updated FoC

Looks nice but you got the Inquisition wrong. You can take a Primary Inquisition detachment + an Inquisition detachment. It's Knights that can't do both as they can't ally with themselves.

My problem with people saying Inquisition can take a Primary Inquisitioroial Detachment AND an Inquistorial Detachment is the wording of the entry:
"When you choose an army, Inquisitors may be taken as a primary detachment or as a special form of allied detachment known as an Inquisitorial detachment." <- Key word here OR.

"If you take Inquisitors as a primary detachment, use the Inquisitorial detachment Force Organisation chart instead of the primary detachment Force Organisation chart.
Alternatively, an army may include an Inquisitorial detachment in addition to any other detachments." <- Key word ALTERNATIVELY.

The other ones with the alternate Primary (LotD, Imperial Knights) and special detachment don't state that, and LotD specifically states you can take both.

You missed the bit that says "You may take two inquisitorial detachments in the same army but one of these must be the primary detachment"

It's just below the bit you quoted. Plus inquisition can ally with themselves on their ally matrix, Knights don't appear on their own ally matrix at all.

Heheheh. Just bought $4k worth of SOB that are currently en-route. It'll probably take me a couple days, but there should be an abundance of cheap SOB on the swap shop soon for those looking to expand.

 pretre wrote:
Heheheh. Just bought $4k worth of SOB that are currently en-route. It'll probably take me a couple days, but there should be an abundance of cheap SOB on the swap shop soon for those looking to expand.

Wow... And I thought I went crazy last month.

Loopstah wrote:

 Ovion wrote:

Loopstah wrote:

 Ovion wrote:
I normally post stuff here for you guys, so here you go.
Updated FoC

Looks nice but you got the Inquisition wrong. You can take a Primary Inquisition detachment + an Inquisition detachment. It's Knights that can't do both as they can't ally with themselves.

My problem with people saying Inquisition can take a Primary Inquisitioroial Detachment AND an Inquistorial Detachment is the wording of the entry:
"When you choose an army, Inquisitors may be taken as a primary detachment or as a special form of allied detachment known as an Inquisitorial detachment." <- Key word here OR.

"If you take Inquisitors as a primary detachment, use the Inquisitorial detachment Force Organisation chart instead of the primary detachment Force Organisation chart.
Alternatively, an army may include an Inquisitorial detachment in addition to any other detachments." <- Key word ALTERNATIVELY.

The other ones with the alternate Primary (LotD, Imperial Knights) and special detachment don't state that, and LotD specifically states you can take both.

You missed the bit that says "You may take two inquisitorial detachments in the same army but one of these must be the primary detachment"

It's just below the bit you quoted. Plus inquisition can ally with themselves on their ally matrix, Knights don't appear on their own ally matrix at all.

It does not have that in mine.

 Ovion wrote:
It does not have that in mine.

Mavnas wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Heheheh. Just bought $4k worth of SOB that are currently en-route. It'll probably take me a couple days, but there should be an abundance of cheap SOB on the swap shop soon for those looking to expand.

Wow... And I thought I went crazy last month.

It is how I pay for my hobbies. Buying big lots and reselling them.

Well for 4k.. that's a lot of kilograms of Sisters..

 Shandara wrote:
Well for 4k.. that's a lot of kilograms of Sisters..

About 25 pounds or so.

Want some thoughts on a 2500 points list I just threw together. My troops never do much for me I've found so I decided to go MSU on them and focus on other strong points.

2 x Canoness - Cloak of St. Aspira on one of them

5 x Sister squads (5) - Flamer and Rhino

4 x Dominions (5) - Meltaguns x 4 in MM Immolators

6 x Exorcists

Coteaz (divination)

1 x Henchman (5) - 2 x Jokaero and 3 x Plasma Cannon Servitors

Bastion with Icarus Lascannon
Aegis Defense Line with Comms relay


Coteaz + Henchmen + Cannoness with cloak inside the bastion to man the lascannon and soak wounds which can be rerolled. Coteaz can start taking them once shes down to one left.

Other canoness rides with a sister squad to make that one troops a tad more resilient. One troops stays behind their ride, behind the defense line to get benefits of the comms relay. Aegis also provides a nice long line to spread the Exorcists and still get cover.

Troops are fragile, but I can keep a few of them in reserve if needed to protect them. I also think by turn 2 target saturation should be nasty enough to make the troops a lesser priority.

I love running Coteaz with the girls, I'd add in some plasma acolytes for fun. Prescience on plasma is great, and at 14 pts per they're a great bonus to a shooty, scoring unit.

EDIT: never mind, misread something with blurred early-am vision.

Here's my counts-as jakero. I dislike the idea of space monkeys. She's a hermit madwoman that's a savant with dangerous weapons. I still need a few more henchmen including a plasma cannon servitor, but I'm almost there.

Who doesn't love Idiot Savant Space Monkeys? Oh wait, I hate them, they're a ridiculous holdover from the Rogue Trader days of Obi Wan Clouseau, never mind.

Really? I love space monkeys, they're just ridiculous and when I field my bright orange ones people are highly amused, I guess I like the non grim darkness of my shooty little space monkeys

 SisterSydney wrote:
Who doesn't love Idiot Savant Space Monkeys? Oh wait, I hate them, they're a ridiculous holdover from the Rogue Trader days of Obi Wan Clouseau, never mind.

That's Obi-wan SHERLOCK Clousseau to you, sir

Love the use of the Empire arcane rifle doo-dah! Was thinking of using that as a hellrifle but that's seriously clever.

As an aside, I've finally finished my Dark Talon > Avenger conversion.

With a Goff Rok gig as the base.

What?





More pics in me blog, if you're interested.

 Ovion wrote:
I normally post stuff here for you guys, so here you go.
Updated FoC

Spoiler:

Link appears to be dead?

D

Oh yeah, I updated it and deleted the oldun!

And I'll go fix the other post too!

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Love the use of the Empire arcane rifle doo-dah! Was thinking of using that as a hellrifle but that's seriously clever.

As an aside, I've finally finished my Dark Talon > Avenger conversion.

With a Goff Rok gig as the base.

What?





More pics in me blog, if you're interested.

Are those the old RT Ork rocker minis? Wow.

 Ovion wrote:
Oh yeah, I updated it and deleted the oldun!

Spoiler:

And I'll go fix the other post too!

Thanks that's really useful.

Has anyone used LotD with Sisters? Are there any decent combos/synergies to be had?

D

What's the empire arcane rifle from?

Mavnas wrote:
What's the empire arcane rifle from?

How do you all use inquisitors and henchmen? I'm thinking of using them as fire support and rear guard.

 MWHistorian wrote:
How do you all use inquisitors and henchmen? I'm thinking of using them as fire support and rear guard.

Yep, pretty much.

I'm a fan of two squads of henchmen in a bastion with Coteaz and an Inquisitor. Plasma Cannons with perfect timing are hilarious.