W40k : rumor of 7th edition for 2014 summer ! How on Earth ?!? * news p.45*

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**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

pretre wrote:
Really? You want Battle of the Farm back. Yeck.

I'm not old enough to remember that, but it sure does sound awesome ! We could hide behind cows to get cover ! Or go to the barn to do very close combat

. Beside, it really gives the battle a sense of purpose : only the winner will get to have eggs for breakfast !

**CthuluIsSpy**

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
pretre wrote:
Really? You want Battle of the Farm back. Yeck.

I'm not old enough to remember that, but it sure does sound awesome ! We could hide behind cows to get cover ! Or go to the barn to do very close combat . Beside, it really gives the battle a sense of purpose : only the winner will get to have eggs for breakfast !

Cabbages, mate.

It'll be just like XCOM!

**Avian**

From the 40K Radio Facebook page:

Some updates on 7th edition: 1) It will purely be a book release. 2) It could be released as early as May.

On the Chaos Space Marine Releases. 1) Look for the stuff to be released beginning of summer. 2) Crimson Slaughter(CSM in the DV starter) might receive a Supplement as well.

**thenoobbomb**

Hmm, some more info on the Crimson Slaughter could be interesting.

**SickSix**

I totally believe an updated rule book release. The starter set? Not so much.

But I bet the new rule book is hard cover, just thinner.

**Havik110**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:
I have always wanted a Space Marines versus Space Marines starter set.

Well, I hear the Space Wolves and Dark Angels don't exactly get along... make it happen, GW.

would prefer Sisters Vs. Flesh Tearers...

Also the DA vs Wolves is more of an honor thing from the days when their primarchs had a #$%k measuring contest and the lion laughed at russes genetically enhanced baby #$%k russ then punched him and is reported to have said, its not the size that matters its how you use it...he then went out and got the biggest chain axe and bolter available in the armory

**insaniak**

If it's just a book release, the cynical part of me is wondering if they will bother updating the book in all of the current starter sets already sitting on shelves, or if they will just continue to sell them as is and let people find out there is an updated book later...

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Yodhrin wrote:
I'd be more inclined to believe the rumour if it pegged the box as featuring a chapter that doesn't already have its own range. Unless they make the box ludicrously expensive(and hence defeat the object of it(and I mean ludicrously expensive by GW standards)), or make it limited edition(just as daft), eBay will end up flooded with cheap snap-fit Blood Angels - who's going to fork over £20 for five Death Company when you can pick them up for £5 Buy It Now, maybe cheaper if you get it at auction.

How would that be any different to the starter sets from the last several editions...?

**stubacca**

I'm kind of excited about the idea of an updated blood angels list. I'm hoping the nerf hammer doesn't appear!

(edited from a double post about what's included in the potentially new set, sorry)

**RiTides**

Sounds like the starter set is hogwash, but the rulebook by itself is much more likely, given the rumor sources...

**Kilkrazy**

When did 6th edition come out?

**kronk**

Kilkrazy wrote:
When did 6th edition come out?

Sixth Edition was released on the 23rd of June, 2012

**timetowaste85**

Havik110 wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:
I have always wanted a Space Marines versus Space Marines starter set.

Well, I hear the Space Wolves and Dark Angels don't exactly get along... make it happen, GW.

would prefer Sisters Vs. Flesh Tearers...

Also the DA vs Wolves is more of an honor thing from the days when their primarchs had a #$%k measuring contest and the lion laughed at russes genetically enhanced baby #$%k russ then punched him and is reported to have said, its not the size that matters its how you use it...he then went out and got the biggest chain axe and bolter available in the armory

Seeing how Russ and his losers, I mean wolves, are a bunch of babies, I approve of this post.

**Kilkrazy**

kronk wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:
When did 6th edition come out?

Sixth Edition was released on the 23rd of June, 2012

Therefore if this rumour is true we clearly would be looking at a three year gap between editions.

It seems a bit too soon to me.

**dynamic_e**

Damnit...just bought the hard cover for more fluff on top of these dark vengeance book.

**tomjoad**

If you just bought it for the fluff, what's the loss? The fluff will still exist with little to no change.

So, is 40k Radio standing by the new rules book as being a distinct 7th Edition, rather than, essentially, 6th ed with the FAQs included? That is, according to their rumor, if I bought the digital edition of the rules today, it would be invalidated and not updated with the release of this new book?

**Bull0**

I think it's novel how the rumours were initially YES IT'S 7TH EDITION and now they're NO IT'S DEFINITELY NOT 7TH EDITION...

It's almost as if the forum backlash is tempering the rumours...

Anyway, I was excited to read this and if it's true, I'll be all over it - can never have enough blood angels and orks - but it sounds a little fan-servicey to me. Blood angels vs orks feels like some proper 3rd ed nostalgia baiting. I'm pretty skeptical.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

If there is a new '7th' edition probably

(although there is nothing to prevent GW having a cheaper 'upgrade' option similar to Microsoft/apple when the update an OS)

so expensive and annoying if true

(but cheaper and less annoying than having your smart phone go out of date 6 months after it's released)

**Tennants Lager**

If that starter set did actually happen I'd be looking to get at least one of the Ork sets of minis for the fortifications alone (to speculate - a Rok, given past Ork rumours?) even tho I don't really need the rest of it with the stuff I have. Unfortunately it sounds like bunkum. :(

Like others have said would believe an updated rulebook coming out way before a new starter set given how recent DV is.

**Symbio Joe**

Wow, we are so close to play 2nd Edition again that even the starter set goes back there.

**Zweischneid**

Symbio Joe wrote:
Wow, we are so close to play 2nd Edition again that even the starter set goes back there.

Except - this being a BoLS rumour - it probably isn't

40K Radio directly contradicts it, saying 7th is a book-only release.

Some updates on 7th edition: 1) It will purely be a book release. 2) It could be released as early as May.

On the Chaos Space Marine Releases. 1) Look for the stuff to be released beginning of summer. 2) Crimson Slaughter(CSM in the DV starter) might receive a Supplement as well.

If the dakka rumour accuracy stuff is worth anything, I'd go with 40K Radio. Crimson Slaughter Supplement makes no sense of DV is pulled.

**Alpharius**

Zweischneid wrote:
Symbio Joe wrote:
Wow, we are so close to play 2nd Edition again that even the starter set goes back there.

Except - this being a BoLS rumour - it probably isn't

40K Radio directly contradicts it, saying 7th is a book-only release.

Some updates on 7th edition: 1) It will purely be a book release. 2) It could be released as early as May.

On the Chaos Space Marine Releases. 1) Look for the stuff to be released beginning of summer. 2) Crimson Slaughter(CSM in the DV starter) might receive a Supplement as well.

If the dakka rumour accuracy stuff is worth anything, I'd go with 40K Radio. Crimson Slaughter Supplement makes no sense of DV is pulled.

Is there some Blog somewhere with better rumors, or rumor tracking?

**Zweischneid**

Alpharius wrote:
Zweischneid wrote:
Symbio Joe wrote:
Wow, we are so close to play 2nd Edition again that even the starter set goes back there.

Except - this being a BoLS rumour - it probably isn't

40K Radio directly contradicts it, saying 7th is a book-only release.

Some updates on 7th edition: 1) It will purely be a book release. 2) It could be released as early as May.

On the Chaos Space Marine Releases. 1) Look for the stuff to be released beginning of summer. 2) Crimson Slaughter(CSM in the DV starter) might receive a Supplement as well.

If the dakka rumour accuracy stuff is worth anything, I'd go with 40K Radio. Crimson Slaughter Supplement makes no sense of DV is pulled.

Is there some Blog somewhere with better rumors, or rumor tracking?

Not that I know off.

Going by Dakka's rumour tracking as the world leader in this field, how'd you judge a 40K Radio and a BoLS rumour going toe-to-toe?

**RiTides**

To save pretre the trouble for once

(THANKS for doing this, by the way!!)

Larry Vela aka Big Red - Total rumors: (70 TRUE) / (83 FALSE) / (6 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Spoiler:

versus

40kradio - Total rumors: (37 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Spoiler:

The ratios aren't even close (40k radio's is much better) but 40k radio is pretty new to this and it remains to be seen if they will continue to be accurate. Comparing them to someone who has proven to be worse than a coin-flip, though... I know which one I'm going with

**Alpharius**

Exactly!

Thanks Pretre for what is, largely, a thankless task.

Until now, of course - so... thanks!

**BunkerBob**

Thank you Pretre! I do appreciate the tracking of rumor mongering.

Honestly I just check BoLS posts on my phone at work and think about all the pot stirring going on at Dakka and it entertains me for hours. With a small side note of wanting more Ork models for cheap. I am sure I can farm out (I made a funny) those pesky angels or file off the insignias and turn them into Fists.

**Kroothawk**

Dwarfs in February or March, IG in March or April, 40k Radio always gets a TRUE

BTW posting rumours is also a mostly thankless task.

**RiTides**

It is indeed (as many of us here know) and I appreciate those who, such as yourself, put a fair amount of effort into it.

But let's be honest, keeping that rumor tracker current is a whole 'nother level of effort! And worth saying thanks for.

**Anpu42**

Kroothawk wrote:
Dwarfs in February or March, IG in March or April, 40k Radio always gets a TRUE
BTW posting rumours is also a mostly thankless task.

Ye all love you in our "Special" Way.

**Slayer le boucher**

Chad Warden wrote:
so will Dark Vengeance go OOP?

That would be an incitive to release the content of DV in their own kits, like the CSM rumours of late.

Kroothawk wrote:
Dwarfs in February or March, IG in March or April, 40k Radio always gets a TRUE
BTW posting rumours is also a mostly thankless task.

Well personnaly i don't post about rumors to get thanks, thats calling "Attention Seeker" i do it because i like that information circulate and reach the poeple who has interest in it.

Now if by the way they thank me, i'm still happy.

**Yodhrin**

insaniak wrote:
If it's just a book release, the cynical part of me is wondering if they will bother updating the book in all of the current starter sets already sitting on shelves, or if they will just continue to sell them as is and let people find out there is an updated book later...

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Yodhrin wrote:
I'd be more inclined to believe the rumour if it pegged the box as featuring a chapter that doesn't already have its own range. Unless they make the box ludicrously expensive(and hence defeat the object of it(and I mean ludicrously expensive by GW standards)), or make it limited edition(just as daft), eBay will end up flooded with cheap snap-fit Blood Angels - who's going to fork over £20 for five Death Company when you can pick them up for £5 Buy It Now, maybe cheaper if you get it at auction.

How would that be any different to the starter sets from the last several editions...?

Why do you think Dark Vengeance featured a specific chapter that didn't have many models, and Chaos models with a new(actually a bit retro) aesthetic, and in the proportions it did? I'd wager a big reason is they didn't want a repeat of AoBR/IoB where people were using eBay to put together armies almost entirely composed of the starter set minis because they were so cheap compared to the existing models for those armies. So why, with their next starter set, would they pack it full of stuff that will directly compete with the still-fairly-new Blood Angels plastics? Why would they provide people with a way to acquire huge mobs of cheap Orks with a new codex release on the horizon?

The rumour would be slightly more plausible if it stated the box would include either monopose Death Company or chapter-specific Tactical and/or Assault squads, but both? You're killing any incentive people have to buy the normal Marine plastics or the Death Co. box. If they included one or the other, you'd still get people buying at least the DC box(for DC), or both(to make tac/assault with chapter-specific bitz from the DC box). I think GW is going to do everything they possibly can to avoid stuff in the starter set competing with models from their existing range.