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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/19 08:03:00
Subject: Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Hallowed Canoness
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This is... mostly a joke, but lets see how seriously we can take it!
Unlike most Imperial Guard, the Elysians do not travel with heavy equipment and weaponry as part of their normal force organisation. They are, however, unique amongst drop troop regiments because of the astounding wealth of their home planet, a major, multi-sector trade hub. However, any Guard commander knows that without a solid base around which to build a firing line, any army can be divided and conquered. The answer to this was, to some, simple enough. Orbitally deployed fortification networks.
Drop Bastion {Heavy Support}................... Bastion +20 points
Stats: As Bastion
Special Rules: As Bastion, Unique, Deep Strike, Combat Drop, Emplaced Gun*
*While the Bastion's additional wargear may normally be placed on the ground near the structure, a Drop Bastion's nature requires that it be placed atop the structure. A Drop Bastion may not have an Escape Hatch.
Aegis from the Skies {Elites}............................Aegis +20 points
Stats: As Aegist Defence Line
Special Rules: As Aegis Defence Line, Unique, Deep Strike, Combat Drop
Meteor Landing Pad {Platoon Unit}...................Skyshield +20 points
Stats: As Skyshield Landing Pad
Special Rules: As Skyshield Landing Pad, Unique, Deep Strike, Combat Drop
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/20 08:26:54

"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/19 08:18:18
Subject: Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Gimlet-Eyed Inquisitorial Acolyte
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So what happens when the Bastion lands on top of another unit. Deep Strike Mishap? Could you use it as a kinetic projectile? Can it be taken as a dedicated transport?
On a more serious note. I could see an aegis defense line unfolding from a drop pod. Although why is it in the Elite slot?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/19 08:24:25
Subject: Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Hallowed Canoness
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Because it's better than a troops choice, but not solid / heavily armed enough to be heavy support.
Hmm. Mishapping bastions.  No, I think it should probably displace like a drop pod for consistencies' sake (although there's no consistency in the Monolith, so...)
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/19 10:45:15
Subject: Re:Fortifications in an Elysian army
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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To land on a landing pad land a landing pad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/19 12:57:59
Subject: Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Unbalanced Fanatic
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Seems pretty reasonable. Might need to add slightly more to the points for Deep Strike, since it allows you to react to your opponent's deployment and movement, which initial fortifications do not. (This assumes they roll for Reserves and deploy via Deep Strike as normal. However, since Fortifications usually deploy before the battle, this may not be the case, but you don't address this in your rules. I think this is probably how they should work, though maybe they should be deployed on Turn 1 or Turn 2 automatically, to represent the fact that they would almost certainly be sent in ahead of or along with the first wave.)
As an aside, I do have to wonder why your "Aegis From the Skies" pays Aegis points, but gets Bastion stats...
Furyou Miko wrote:Aegis from the Skies {Elites}............................Aegis +10 points
Stats: As Bastion
Special Rules: As Aegis Defence Line, Unique, Deep Strike
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/19 12:58:25
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/20 08:26:11
Subject: Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Hallowed Canoness
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Typoes! But yes, I was assuming that they would deep strike normally.
Hmm. I shall add 'Combat Drop' to their special rules, allowing them to count as valkyries for that rule (Elysians can bring on up to half their valkyries, sky talons, drop sentinels and sentry guns on turn one automatically)
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/20 08:55:36
Subject: Re:Fortifications in an Elysian army
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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why not drop a fortress of redemption or a few baneblades?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/20 17:05:25
Subject: Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Hallowed Canoness
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Baneblades are too delicate. Fortress of Redemption isn't the right size or shape to put in a drop pod, and they're supposed to be ancient relics in any case.
I only did the basic ones from the rulebook (not including the Fortress) because I didn't want to get into everything, and to be honest, it's really easy to just extrapolate and say "to make a fortification droppable, increase its cost by 20 points and add Deep Strike, Unique and Combat Drop to its rules".
Besides, while I can see someone building a drop pod around a void shield generator (Although it would have to be a much higher grade pod than the ones used by Marines due to the delicate machinery, probably Tau-level tech), it doesn't seem reasonable to do the same with a whole fortification network or an awkwardly-shaped fortress.
Ultimately, a bastion or an aegis is a simple piece of kit that's basically a solid (or hollow) lump of ferrocrete. More complex things would require more resources or just be flat-out impractical.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 00:57:27
Subject: Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Fragile? Hmmph. Give me my Deep Striking air-dropped Baneblade!
Special Rule: Blots Out The Sun
On the turn the Baneblade deep-strikes, all units within 6" are affected by the rules for Night Fighting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 03:15:06
Subject: Re:Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Douglas Bader
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The fact that you don't have rules to drop one of these is completely unacceptable. Please fix this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 03:46:56
Subject: Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Preacher of the Emperor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 03:47:23
Subject: Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Jeepers, I just want that because it is sex on a table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 15:08:50
Subject: Fortifications in an Elysian army
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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