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 BadMoonMek wrote:
And to keep this on topic, is anyone else afraid we're just getting some cool new units and no actual codex?

Not really. I mean, if they were supplementing codexes and basically use the release as a means of public playtesting/feedback I'd be okay with that, but I don't expect GW to do something like that honestly.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

deffrekka wrote:
Barrage hit the top level so they can't get hit by barrage weapons

Mind backing that up with something from the rulebook to collaborate? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that counter-arguments are stronger with collaborating evidence.

Deffrekka, not necessarily saying that you're WRONG here, but the rules for Barrages, blasts, and template weapons and how they hit or don't hit different levels of a ruin have essentially been removed from 7th Edition. So right now it's basically a guess as to how blasts are expected to affect ruins.

So there is no rule stating that you can't put a barrage blast UNDER a skyshield pad and hit the units under it.

My group has already agreed to house-rule that blasts, barrages, and templates work the same way they did in 6th, as if those pages on ruins and blasts from 6th were copied into the 7th edition book. We're assuming eventually it will get errata'd, since it makes no sense otherwise. You end up with crazy situations where a flame template can hit 3 levels of a ruin simultaneously.

 Squidbot wrote:

 matphat wrote:
Anyone have the actual dimensions on the Naught? I'd love to start scratch building one.

http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=47240&page=5#entry697001

save you the trouble

It's quite easy to get the right dimension.

Go to http://www.games-wor...de-DE/Morkanaut

Open the 360° view. Frontal view. Zoom until the base has a width of 17cm.

Then you can measure all important parts.

Murrdox wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

deffrekka wrote:
Barrage hit the top level so they can't get hit by barrage weapons

Mind backing that up with something from the rulebook to collaborate? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that counter-arguments are stronger with collaborating evidence.

Deffrekka, not necessarily saying that you're WRONG here, but the rules for Barrages, blasts, and template weapons and how they hit or don't hit different levels of a ruin have essentially been removed from 7th Edition. So right now it's basically a guess as to how blasts are expected to affect ruins.

So there is no rule stating that you can't put a barrage blast UNDER a skyshield pad and hit the units under it.

My group has already agreed to house-rule that blasts, barrages, and templates work the same way they did in 6th, as if those pages on ruins and blasts from 6th were copied into the 7th edition book. We're assuming eventually it will get errata'd, since it makes no sense otherwise. You end up with crazy situations where a flame template can hit 3 levels of a ruin simultaneously.

without going YMDC on it, it says it hits everything under the template, nothing else, so they hit everything under the template (depending on the type as to where the LOS of the shot is)

No rule stating you can't doesn't give you permission to do so (unlike the permission to hit everything under the template)

templates can hit 3 levels, as long as the narrow end is touching the base of the mini and it can go up 3 levels... if you want to talk aout it more feel free to pm or take it to the YMDC or general...

Aaaaah i get it now.... That's that plan out of the window, although on top of it they can get a 3++ with a sneaky weirdboy on santic daemonology

 PhillyT wrote:
He is similar in total volume to the knight but an inch shorter.

Mine isn't!

Im thinking about buying a cheapo buggy off ebay and cutting it half, buying a mek gunz box and using it to make 3 guns.

Kinda off topic but does anyone have any ideas on what to use a chassis for a custom built BW? I have 3 standard ones but im looking to make one for my inevitable flash gits squad and dont feel like dropping the cash for another one.

 Lord Scythican wrote:
Mine isn't!

That looks much better. Did you have to modify the legs extensively, or can it just be lifted like that with the existing joints?

 Billagio wrote:
Im thinking about buying a cheapo buggy off ebay and cutting it half, buying a mek gunz box and using it to make 3 guns.

Kinda off topic but does anyone have any ideas on what to use a chassis for a custom built BW? I have 3 standard ones but im looking to make one for my inevitable flash gits squad and dont feel like dropping the cash for another one.

leman Russ battle tank or landraider, i prefer the raider myself.

but with orks, when you're custom making, anything is possible!!

 Billagio wrote:
Im thinking about buying a cheapo buggy off ebay and cutting it half, buying a mek gunz box and using it to make 3 guns.

Kinda off topic but does anyone have any ideas on what to use a chassis for a custom built BW? I have 3 standard ones but im looking to make one for my inevitable flash gits squad and dont feel like dropping the cash for another one.

If you've got lots of plasticard, there's a certain series of dollar store construction vehicles that have amazingly similar dimensions to a battle wagon...hehehe.

 Billagio wrote:
Im thinking about buying a cheapo buggy off ebay and cutting it half, buying a mek gunz box and using it to make 3 guns.

Better to buy a cheap Trukk and make 3 additional chassis

 Billagio wrote:


Kinda off topic but does anyone have any ideas on what to use a chassis for a custom built BW? I have 3 standard ones but im looking to make one for my inevitable flash gits squad and dont feel like dropping the cash for another one.

I get the feeling that those Taurox chassis are pretty flashy! Must cost a good bit o' teef to acquire one of those, if you know what I mean...

ohh the taurox! haven't considered one of those.... Hmmm, i bet a deff rolla fits the front of one too!

 Billagio wrote:
Kinda off topic but does anyone have any ideas on what to use a chassis for a custom built BW?

I'm considering some 1:35 scale kits for my next one....

http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/italeri-m923-foot-truck-p-12525.html
http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/italeri-m985-hemtt-truck-6510-p-44030.html
http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/tamiya-british-quad-tractor-35045-p-17232.html
http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/trumpeter-russian-heavy-tractor-komintern-05540-p-36193.html

Beef up or replace any wheels, add some plasticard armour and hack the crew compartments into ork sizes.

I've also been working on totally scratch-built vehicles recently. Get a mitre cutting box and a load of square styrene tubing and the basic shapes can be knocked out pretty easily. The most difficult part is getting wheels and tracks to look OK.

Id thought of using the taurox, but it seems too small to be a propa BW!

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Billagio wrote:
Kinda off topic but does anyone have any ideas on what to use a chassis for a custom built BW?

I'm considering some 1:35 scale kits for my next one....

http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/italeri-m923-foot-truck-p-12525.html
http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/italeri-m985-hemtt-truck-6510-p-44030.html
http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/tamiya-british-quad-tractor-35045-p-17232.html
http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/trumpeter-russian-heavy-tractor-komintern-05540-p-36193.html

Beef up or replace any wheels, add some plasticard armour and hack the crew compartments into ork sizes.

I've also been working on totally scratch-built vehicles recently. Get a mitre cutting box and a load of square styrene tubing and the basic shapes can be knocked out pretty easily. The most difficult part is getting wheels and tracks to look OK.

Some of those look interesting, especially the second one. Ill have to scrounge ebay a bit.

 Toburk wrote:

 Lord Scythican wrote:
Mine isn't!

That looks much better. Did you have to modify the legs extensively, or can it just be lifted like that with the existing joints?

Indeed, it looks ALOT better. I want one like that

Dragonzord wrote:

 Toburk wrote:

Spoiler:

 Lord Scythican wrote:
Mine isn't!

That looks much better. Did you have to modify the legs extensively, or can it just be lifted like that with the existing joints?

Indeed, it looks ALOT better. I want one like that

I almost have this thing painted. If you all want to see some WIP pics go to this thread so we don't derail this thread much.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/599676.page

As for the legs, they were not modified, however I did modify how they were connected. I basically cut his mid back part off and assembled it much lower. Then I used plasticard to rebuild the mid back.

Looks much cooler. I'm sure it's been mentioned before that the official model should come with a set of wheels to help support that big, awkward pregnant belly as it waddles along the battlefield, like the 'fatty' from the Judge Dread miniatures game.

Brother Weasel wrote:

Murrdox wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

deffrekka wrote:
Barrage hit the top level so they can't get hit by barrage weapons

Mind backing that up with something from the rulebook to collaborate? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that counter-arguments are stronger with collaborating evidence.

Deffrekka, not necessarily saying that you're WRONG here, but the rules for Barrages, blasts, and template weapons and how they hit or don't hit different levels of a ruin have essentially been removed from 7th Edition. So right now it's basically a guess as to how blasts are expected to affect ruins.

So there is no rule stating that you can't put a barrage blast UNDER a skyshield pad and hit the units under it.

My group has already agreed to house-rule that blasts, barrages, and templates work the same way they did in 6th, as if those pages on ruins and blasts from 6th were copied into the 7th edition book. We're assuming eventually it will get errata'd, since it makes no sense otherwise. You end up with crazy situations where a flame template can hit 3 levels of a ruin simultaneously.

without going YMDC on it, it says it hits everything under the template, nothing else, so they hit everything under the template (depending on the type as to where the LOS of the shot is)

No rule stating you can't doesn't give you permission to do so (unlike the permission to hit everything under the template)

templates can hit 3 levels, as long as the narrow end is touching the base of the mini and it can go up 3 levels... if you want to talk aout it more feel free to pm or take it to the YMDC or general...

Yea and the same rules say to look through the template to see whats beneath it, so you can't in practice hit guys through multiple levels. You definitely can pick the bottom level and ignore the floors to place it there, but people are definitely forgetting the process to actually figure out what counts as a hit when they say it hits every floor.

 Red Corsair wrote:

Brother Weasel wrote:

Murrdox wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

deffrekka wrote:
Barrage hit the top level so they can't get hit by barrage weapons

Mind backing that up with something from the rulebook to collaborate? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that counter-arguments are stronger with collaborating evidence.

Deffrekka, not necessarily saying that you're WRONG here, but the rules for Barrages, blasts, and template weapons and how they hit or don't hit different levels of a ruin have essentially been removed from 7th Edition. So right now it's basically a guess as to how blasts are expected to affect ruins.

So there is no rule stating that you can't put a barrage blast UNDER a skyshield pad and hit the units under it.

My group has already agreed to house-rule that blasts, barrages, and templates work the same way they did in 6th, as if those pages on ruins and blasts from 6th were copied into the 7th edition book. We're assuming eventually it will get errata'd, since it makes no sense otherwise. You end up with crazy situations where a flame template can hit 3 levels of a ruin simultaneously.

without going YMDC on it, it says it hits everything under the template, nothing else, so they hit everything under the template (depending on the type as to where the LOS of the shot is)

No rule stating you can't doesn't give you permission to do so (unlike the permission to hit everything under the template)

templates can hit 3 levels, as long as the narrow end is touching the base of the mini and it can go up 3 levels... if you want to talk aout it more feel free to pm or take it to the YMDC or general...

Yea and the same rules say to look through the template to see whats beneath it, so you can't in practice hit guys through multiple levels. You definitely can pick the bottom level and ignore the floors to place it there, but people are definitely forgetting the process to actually figure out what counts as a hit when they say it hits every floor.

Actually, if you place the template at the base, and then angle it up , then look down throughout it, you at hitting multiple floors, nothing says to keep the template level.

yeah,

 Lord Scythican wrote:
...As for the legs, they were not modified, however I did modify how they were connected. I basically cut his mid back part off and assembled it much lower. Then I used plasticard to rebuild the mid back.

Perfect! Thanks for posting.

I'll be coping this mod, for my grots Grotanaut/Killa'naut... name yet to be decided.
Grots only ... KillaKans>DeffKan>MegaKan>MorkaKan?

Panic...

Not Grotanaut?

I like the modification, but much prefer the more squat version. I don't need the Gorkanaut to be bigger than the knights. I like the mini-stomps vibe it has going.

Besides, between the ultra short legs and the 30 foot drop for the guys being transported, it strikes me as even less useable than the little one.

 PhillyT wrote:


Besides, between the ultra short legs and the 30 foot drop for the guys being transported, it strikes me as even less useable than the little one.

I wouldn't say that. Orks are known for hanging onto the sides of the transports and disembarking from even greater heights. Big Squiggoth anyone? The jump from that thing is three times higher. Right now they got perhaps a 12 feet jump out the doors which is nothing to an ork.

Just built this from bits. Think it fits the morkanaut quite well.



More pics here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/600027.page

I like yours more than the GW model. That Dakkadakkadakkagun could be a bit bigger, but I probably wouldn't have bothered too, having such a well-fitting bit.
On the other hand, making a custom gatling-type gun ain't that tricky if you have plastic tubes handy.

 tarnish wrote:
Just built this from bits. Think it fits the morkanaut quite well.



More pics here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/600027.page

Nicely done!

 tarnish wrote:
Just built this from bits. Think it fits the morkanaut quite well.



More pics here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/600027.page

Lookin' good! I aim to make one myself, just waiting to pick up the actual kit so I can use some bits from it and make 2.

I like that. Fits the model well particularly in terms of size.

 Dez wrote:


Lookin' good! I aim to make one myself, just waiting to pick up the actual kit so I can use some bits from it and make 2.

Great idea and thanks guys i might have to do that myself