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Why oh why are datacards/objective cards made in such low supply?
I get up this morning to check the new releases and they're already no longer available - except on ebay where I could pay 4x the price.
Ffs GW, no wonder you're losing money. I now have to spend that extra hobby cash on an ebay scalper rather than on other stuff from GW.
I assume their marketing dept are muppets.
I missed Space Hulk as well. That's a load of money GW haven't got from me that I wanted to give them.
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Sidstyler wrote:The "Archon Edition" is actually sold out on the US site. I have no fething idea why, but...there it is.
Sol out on the UK site too.
I imagine because it's you know sold out..
Oh. Makes sense, I guess.
So, 500 copies worldwide, how does that compare to previous LE books then? Are Dark Eldar really more popular (with apparently more hardcore fans) or are they just producing less of them since the previous releases took weeks to sell out?
Faster.
I don't recall the previous ones selling out within a few hours of release.
Gimgamgoo wrote: Why oh why are datacards/objective cards made in such low supply?
I get up this morning to check the new releases and they're already no longer available - except on ebay where I could pay 4x the price.
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I checked as Strictly began (so ~9:00pm in the UK) They had already sold out.So it isn't that you overslept but that the supply was too low. And, again, I know others have raised this but why are these types of card limited in the first place?
Perhaps they will do another print run.
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Gimgamgoo wrote: Why oh why are datacards/objective cards made in such low supply?
I get up this morning to check the new releases and they're already no longer available - except on ebay where I could pay 4x the price.
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I checked as Strictly began (so ~9:00pm in the UK) They had already sold out.So it isn't that you overslept but that the supply was too low. And, again, I know others have raised this but why are these types of card limited in the first place?
Because they aren't printed by Games Workshop themselves and they use up valuable shelf space.
Also, what gets sold out so quickly is the webstore allocation of the cards. Your local GW should get anywhere from 2 to 10 copies of cards for the shelves. It varies wildly as to how many they get though, with releases like Space Wolves, Grey Knights, and Orks getting the upper range of 10 and releases like the Lore of Undeath for WHFB getting 3 at my local GW.
I was contemplating the Archon edition as I love limited edition stuff... however I could not justify it for the extra cash (and we are renovating our basement). The only reason I'd want it is the orange page edges and objective coins (now plastic/resin), but that's not worth the extra $70/$100. I bought the Wolf Guard edition codex, but that had gold page edges, metal coins, art prints, and the books didn't have slip covers (I hate slip covers, they get damaged so easily). GW should not have put slip covers on the DE books!
I also bought the wolf guard edition as it came with the Grimnar supplement, only to see the supplement released the next week -wthGW :(
I think GW needs to add some more content to these LE books to make them a better deal for the cost.
IN ALAE MORTIS... On the wings of Death!!
2014/09/27 13:42:18
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar rumors - pics and video page1
Wilson wrote: I'm sure Dark Eldar will get a supplement with a LOW in next week. ( If it hasn't been confirmed already - I don't know)
It makes me wonder about the whole LOW thing, maybe the characters that are being made into LOW will have are going to play a key part in story progression next year? just like their doing in WFB right now.
that could be cool :]
What progression lol? In 20 years of playing nothing has changed in the plot.
kitch102 wrote: I'm willing to bet that Vect isn't gone from the game altogether, but that he gets his own supplement. There's got to be loads they can do with the background and rules for his kabal, it's too big to drop and ignore.
There has never been any supplement-only miniatures, so don't hold your breath.
What about Chaos and Be'Lakor? Does this not count?
That mini is ancient acutally, at least 8 years old. What you and others fail to miss is the fact they have not made ANY slates or supplements for units without existing models, making the likelyhood more wishlisting.
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I've been working on the assumption that the kit comes with some cool plastic bits, but sure, laugh at me. I can afford that, I only need to see sprue pics first.
Drukhari - 4.7k
Space Marines - 3.1k
Chaos Space Marines - 2.9k
Harlequins - 0.9k
2014/09/27 13:54:57
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar rumors - pics and video page1
SarisKhan wrote: I've been working on the assumption that the kit comes with some cool plastic bits, but sure, laugh at me. I can afford that, I only need to see sprue pics first.
But you can literally get 10 kabalites or wyches WITH tons of extra bits... Thats what kills me about these clam shell characters, 30 is too much even for some extra weapons or heads. But as you said, it,s your money.
I like the Voidraven, but it'd be nice if there was something more to it than just "bigger Razorwing". I'm not really seeing the point in the additional cockpit.
Frozen Ocean wrote: I like the Voidraven, but it'd be nice if there was something more to it than just "bigger Razorwing". I'm not really seeing the point in the additional cockpit.
One can only hope this thing is pinpoint accurate considering they dedicated an entire cockpit for a single use bomb.
Also, what gets sold out so quickly is the webstore allocation of the cards.
I know. But for them to have underestimated the potential demand so that they run out within hours rather than days or weeks seems a tad poor. I just think they would have a better idea of their market
Wilson wrote: I'm sure Dark Eldar will get a supplement with a LOW in next week. ( If it hasn't been confirmed already - I don't know)
It makes me wonder about the whole LOW thing, maybe the characters that are being made into LOW will have are going to play a key part in story progression next year? just like their doing in WFB right now.
that could be cool :]
What progression lol? In 20 years of playing nothing has changed in the plot.
I'm one of those people that believes once all of the codex's are updated for 6th/7t,h they will look to moving the story. not dramatically - the emperor's status won't change but I think an armageddon 2.0 will happen . perhaps a demon prince Primarch will show up. The void dragon will escape Mars and enable ad mech armies in 40k. The Tau will expand again.
you know, something like that.
2014/09/27 15:52:54
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar rumors - pics and video page1
Wilson wrote: I'm sure Dark Eldar will get a supplement with a LOW in next week. ( If it hasn't been confirmed already - I don't know)
It makes me wonder about the whole LOW thing, maybe the characters that are being made into LOW will have are going to play a key part in story progression next year? just like their doing in WFB right now.
that could be cool :]
What progression lol? In 20 years of playing nothing has changed in the plot.
I'm one of those people that believes once all of the codex's are updated for 6th/7t,h they will look to moving the story. not dramatically - the emperor's status won't change but I think an armageddon 2.0 will happen . perhaps a demon prince Primarch will show up. The void dragon will escape Mars and enable ad mech armies in 40k. The Tau will expand again.
you know, something like that.
Well that's not the same thing then.
We have had the 13th crusade and the 3rd war for Armageddon already and nothing changed. It's just another campaign. They also haven't done a large summer campaign in many years and we were fortunate to get Stormclaw which is a smaller version of those past events.
GW very much likes things where they're at because progression of any meaningful kind means someone has to be regressing. I think things will stay deadlocked, but hey that's just from my experience, could happen I suppose. More likely, once necrons and BA are done, we see a new Chaos codex, they are always the first redo generally.
Edit: Also take note that when GW ran summer campaigns of the past scale they had forums and were an active member of the community. Heck in Storm of Chaos and Eye of Terror player world wide would register regionally as good or bad and submit results for GW to sort through to decide as a community who was winning. Sounds so alien today.
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Frozen Ocean wrote: I like the Voidraven, but it'd be nice if there was something more to it than just "bigger Razorwing". I'm not really seeing the point in the additional cockpit.
One can only hope this thing is pinpoint accurate considering they dedicated an entire cockpit for a single use bomb.
I know that tech is rarely practical in 40k, but "glass bubble with a guy looking down" has got to be one of the worst attempts at logic they have ever done. Meanwhile, Space Marines get a single-seat gunship with a 360° nose turret, so it's not like they don't understand that a pilot doesn't have to focus solely on flying. I just hope that the front cockpit is mostly flush with the actual craft so that painting it over won't look too odd, or that it can be fixed in some other way.
Frozen Ocean wrote: I like the Voidraven, but it'd be nice if there was something more to it than just "bigger Razorwing". I'm not really seeing the point in the additional cockpit.
One can only hope this thing is pinpoint accurate considering they dedicated an entire cockpit for a single use bomb.
I know that tech is rarely practical in 40k, but "glass bubble with a guy looking down" has got to be one of the worst attempts at logic they have ever done. Meanwhile, Space Marines get a single-seat gunship with a 360° nose turret, so it's not like they don't understand that a pilot doesn't have to focus solely on flying. I just hope that the front cockpit is mostly flush with the actual craft so that painting it over won't look too odd, or that it can be fixed in some other way.
Glass bubble with guy looking down is how bombers in the real world were made for many years. It's identifiable to people and you can see its a bomber. Maybe it's super strong space elf glass with an advanced targeting array for the bombardier.
and no Baron... oh well thats my army/ fethed. Looks like I'll have to make a new list...
Frozen Ocean wrote: I know that tech is rarely practical in 40k, but "glass bubble with a guy looking down" has got to be one of the worst attempts at logic they have ever done. Meanwhile, Space Marines get a single-seat gunship with a 360° nose turret, so it's not like they don't understand that a pilot doesn't have to focus solely on flying. I just hope that the front cockpit is mostly flush with the actual craft so that painting it over won't look too odd, or that it can be fixed in some other way.
Well I'm kinda going to find out in a round about way.. my glass is all painted in.
Panic...
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winterman wrote:https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/codex-dark-eldar-enhanced/id921973285?mt=11 Notice there's no lord of war listed and no Vect in the HQ slot. Looking more and more like he is not in the codex.
and no Baron... oh well thats my army/ fethed. Looks like I'll have to make a new list...
Frozen Ocean wrote: I know that tech is rarely practical in 40k, but "glass bubble with a guy looking down" has got to be one of the worst attempts at logic they have ever done. Meanwhile, Space Marines get a single-seat gunship with a 360° nose turret, so it's not like they don't understand that a pilot doesn't have to focus solely on flying. I just hope that the front cockpit is mostly flush with the actual craft so that painting it over won't look too odd, or that it can be fixed in some other way.
Well I'm kinda going to find out in a round about way.. my glass is all painted in.
Panic...
Worst case, you can either go unbound, or create a Datasheet for the Baron, which is just the original unit, but adjusted with 7th rules or whatever. I doubt anyone would care.
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Good God, the DE special characters sure hit the chopping block hard, eh? I'm glad to see that with all the stuff going on with the Chapterhouse suit that the customers were the ones to get punished- they were surely the most deserving.
That being said, were there ever a bunch of 3rd party characters being sold? I seem to recall most kits being modifications to existing kits (shoulderpads, Stormraven bodies, etc.) but I thought the trouble of special characters was that their names are so specific that the only way you could market a 3rd party version that people would accept/recognize would be to call them by their literal name, which would be an obvious infringement...
...I don't know why I'm trying to ascribe logic to this. The special characters will be culled, army compositions will be lost, and the number of units you need to play will go up. And people will cheer, shrug at the characters (who needs them anyway!!), say "unbound" to any loss of army compositions, and celebrate that they can pack an extra $200 worth of models into a 1500 point army.
(This all being said, DE are one of my favorite two armies)
(Also, if any of this ends up being untrue and special characters are *not* culled, I will change my tune. But these changes are consistent with the last few releases so I'm pretty confident in my opinion on this.)
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2014/09/27 17:04:44
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar rumors - pics and video page1
Accolade wrote: Good God, the DE special characters sure hit the chopping block hard, eh? I'm glad to see that with all the stuff going on with the Chapterhouse suit that the customers were the ones to get punished- they were surely the most deserving.
That being said, were there ever a bunch of 3rd party characters being sold? I seem to recall most kits being modifications to existing kits (shoulderpads, Stormraven bodies, etc.) but I thought the trouble of special characters was that their names are so specific that the only way you could market a 3rd party version that people would accept/recognize would be to call them by their literal name, which would be an obvious infringement...
...I don't know why I'm trying to ascribe logic to this. The special characters will be culled, army compositions will be lost, and the number of units you need to play will go up. And people will cheer, shrug at the characters (who needs them anyway!!), say "unbound" to any loss of army compositions, and celebrate that they can pack an extra $200 worth of models into a 1500 point army.
(This all being said, DE are one of my favorite two armies)
(Also, if any of this ends up being untrue and special characters are *not* culled, I will change my tune. But these changes are consistent with the last few releases so I'm pretty confident in my opinion on this.)
Personally, I'll be adding any missing character to my Extended Codex as I update it to 7th.
I'll release them all as 'dataslates' individually for people too.
I severely doubt anyone will have a problem with it in the days of Unbound.
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