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 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:

 skullking wrote:


Will the War mammoth with Howdah have a crew of some sort?

Yes, it will have shieldmaidens atop as a stretch goal freebie, just like FW Chaos Mammoth had Marauders.
For that, we need to unlock their plastics first.

Here's a thought - as you point out, while the Shieldmaidens are the most popular individual force, not everyone in the campaign ranks them as their favourite. While we all know that you're building the foundations for your game, your game is still a long way off, so most of us buying your figures are buying them to use in WHFB or other games like KoW (that's where I am) rather than in anticipation of your game. With this in mind, offering plastic shieldmaiden crew as a free stretch goal is limiting. Instead, I suggest that you offer a box (or a sprue, or two sprues - whatever the amount is) of any unlocked plastic kit as the crew.

This would mean that when the plastic shieldmaiden mammoth crew stretch goal would have been unlocked, you also offer the option for Mountain Orcs. When you unlock Tallareum Human plastics, Valley Orcs, etc later on, offer a crew of those, etc as an option instead of the Shieldmaidens for anyone who wants to buy a Mammoth. If the Mammoth is going to be Shieldmaiden-only in your game, that's fine - just make that clear in the stretch goal. This allows you to leverage your existing products (Orcs) as well as all of the upcoming plastics in the campaign and potentially sell a lot more 25 coin/$75 Mammoths with Howdah to a lot more people.

"While our game will only have the option for Shieldmaiden War Mammoths, we understand that people will want to use these models in other games and armies as well - that's why we are offering the choice of ANY of our available/unlocked plastic troops to be included as the crew for this mighty beast."


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I've also just noticed... after the $200 Early Bird pledges, there's nothing until you hit $258. Usually, EB pledges are used to save $10 off or whatever but are functionally identical to the same product at (almost) the same price (like $210) - hence the impetus for backers to jump on board early to save $10 off the actual pledge. With the $200 level, people are saving money against... what?

Also, it might be worth adding more European EBs. As I said before the campaign, there's overall far few fewer of us ANZ-APACers than Europeans - especially for fantasy battle games...

The two ogre characters don't look right to me, I think it's their faces that don't seem right, the blacksmith does not remind me of an ogre at all. The shield maiden however looks absolutely fantastic, shame you have no more up there to view.....

 Azazelx wrote:
I would have bought an army of Amazons from Wargods, but the metal prices were too much for me. If they were plastic, on the other hand... which is very much the point I'm making here.

This is pretty much where I am, except that I did buy a small war and of metal amazons. The only thing I am interested in pledging for are plastic shield maidens.





Unless some nonhuman, nonorc figures show up out of he blue, but they'd really have to highlord it up the Barzam.

overtyrant wrote:
The two ogre characters don't look right to me, I think it's their faces that don't seem right, the blacksmith does not remind me of an ogre at all. The shield maiden however looks absolutely fantastic, shame you have no more up there to view.....

Shieldwolf definitely has a distinct take on the "fatty ogres" style.

Wait, there are photos of the plastic Shieldmaidens?

There's concept art for a character and a completed caster sculpt.

We have LOTS of concept artwork, Patrick Keith is the lead-sculptor on those and he has great skills regarding female figurines. We also have more sculpts made, some of which also painted and 360 shot.

For the Shieldmaidens, this Lord was unlocked some hours ago, sculpted by Olivier Nkwetti as we speak (he's sculpting both rider versions).



We have lots of math to do, we'll need a couple of days for sure, last minute chnages when it comes to a lot of people (and their money) is not what we are looking for...

Backed. Depending on where you get with the Valley Orcs its either them or a shedload of Savage Orcs. Maybe both.
Good Gork I do love Orcs.

I've got to agree - NOT leading off with the Shieldmaidens is an...odd decision.

I can see that maybe the goal was trying to...get to that goal by way of some additional funding first?

But as noted, the market is a bit spoiled for choice on Orcs.

Still, onwards and upwards!

My guess at the logic was "we'll finish up our Orcs first" followed by "and have a big ending".

The trouble is that people aren't going to speculatively pledge for stuff that's not actually unlocked in the hope that it does unlock.

I'm tempted to pledge for those Ogres, but $39 with the KS discount seems a little steep, to me. I'll have to mull it over.

overtyrant wrote:
The two ogre characters don't look right to me, I think it's their faces that don't seem right, the blacksmith does not remind me of an ogre at all.

I have to agree. I really like the ogre unit (sculpted by Davide Tedeschi), they're a given pick for me here. But the ogre butcher and blacksmith (by a different sculptor) I'm afraid are so far looking like an easy pass (they are WIP's, so we'll see). I kind of like this guy, though, who is the sculptor of this piece?




Also, I'm wondering who is going to sculpt the ogre firebreather unit. Shieldwolf, do you have a sculptor in line for that yet?

Am I the only one that notices the "halfbreed" written after Ogre and before Champion? Maybe that's the reason he doesn't look like an Ogre so much...

I keep feeling like I'm missing things - where are the other ogre character sculpts pictured, I only see the one above and the unit on the main page? I quite like this half breed one.

Also you might want to edit the Kickstarter link into the OP Shieldwolf (if you don't get to it I can do so, but figured I'd mention it in case you want to do so in a certain way).

Once I see the shieldmaiden sculpts -I'll look at this - but at the moment its not grabbing me.

Some nice stuff with the Dragons and orcs, quite like some Ogres but nothing i need - Viking style shieldmaidens on the other hand

prankster wrote:
To try and aid with sorting your pledge out, I've put together a sheet that works things out for you: http://goo.gl/xOjBci You'll either need to download a copy as an Excel file or if you're logged into a Google account you can copy it to your own docs.

There's bound to be something I've missed / isn't clear / needs making better, so feedback appreciated.

Updated to include the new SGs that have been unlocked / shown

 Mr Morden wrote:
Once I see the shieldmaiden sculpts -I'll look at this - but at the moment its not grabbing me.

Some nice stuff with the Dragons and orcs, quite like some Ogres but nothing i need - Viking style shieldmaidens on the other hand

Same here. If plastic (or even pvc/whatever) shieldmaiden troops get unlocked I will probably pledge for some but until then I will stay on the sidelines.

 RiTides wrote:
I keep feeling like I'm missing things - where are the other ogre character sculpts pictured, I only see the one above and the unit on the main page? I quite like this half breed one.

Also you might want to edit the Kickstarter link into the OP Shieldwolf (if you don't get to it I can do so, but figured I'd mention it in case you want to do so in a certain way).

Thanks (again) :-) *thumb up*



Davide Tedeschi who has sculpted the Ogre Troopers has been commissioned to sculpt ALL regiments for the Ogres. Actually he's sculpting them as we speak. :-)
The Halfbreed was sculpted by both Sean Bullough and Davide Tedeschi, Sean was commissioned and although it was a very nice sculpt , we weren't pleased with the face and had Davide sculpt an alternative.(To be fair here, we we had only provided a detailed description to Sean and not concept artwork like the other 2 characters you've seen)
He's also going to be sculpting the Bull-riders once finished with the ones on foot (In order to save time, the Bulls have been commissioned to Olivier Bouchet, he's currently sculpting the Shieldmaiden Monstrous Beasts, then he'll move on to the Bulls. Before you ask, Patrick Keith is going to sculpt the Shieldmaiden riders).
All this must have been delivered by early June (it's their deadline) except for Patrick who has a bit more.
Before going into casting anything, we'll make sure they all Ogres share the same character :-)

@Prestor Jon @Mr Morden

We will not be using PVC no matter what. That's for sure. We stated Renedra, we have slots, we have plans, we have a Policy on quality we stick to. We prefer dropping a shield or two from the Shieldmaiden sprue and add the rest of the money from our pockets than going into that material. Just so I may not be misinterpreted, PVC may be decent but it's not that good (at least not today), maybe in a few years where technology has advanced a bit more...
The Shieldmaidens will 99% be pushed forward as the 1st plastic kit, we are still re-doing the math... :-)

 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Davide Tedeschi who has sculpted the Ogre Troopers has been commissioned to sculpt ALL regiments for the Ogres. Actually he's sculpting them as we speak. :-)
The Halfbreed was sculpted by both Sean Bullough and Davide Tedeschi, Sean was commissioned and although it was a very nice sculpt , we weren't pleased with the face and had Davide sculpt an alternative.(To be fair here, we we had only provided a detailed description to Sean and not concept artwork like the other 2 characters you've seen)
He's also going to be sculpting the Bull-riders once finished with the ones on foot (In order to save time, the Bulls have been commissioned to Olivier Bouchet, he's currently sculpting the Shieldmaiden Monstrous Beasts, then he'll move on to the Bulls. Before you ask, Patrick Keith is going to sculpt the Shieldmaiden riders).
All this must have been delivered by early June (it's their deadline) except for Patrick who has a bit more.
Before going into casting anything, we'll make sure they all Ogres share the same character :-)

Thanks for that info, that's great! Davide Tedeschi seem to be doing some good work here then, I like his ogres, and its very nice to hear he'll be doing the firebreathers.

 Azazelx wrote:
There's concept art for a character and a completed caster sculpt.

Oh yeah I saw that one. Will definitely be getting that Icemaiden.... for m Undead army. I'll be turning her into a necromancer!

 heartserenade wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
There's concept art for a character and a completed caster sculpt.

Oh yeah I saw that one. Will definitely be getting that Icemaiden.... for m Undead army. I'll be turning her into a necromancer!

No. You won't. Trust me. You will be getting a model, but not the Icemaiden. We can place a bet if you like... ;-)

I.... can always get them both? You can't have too many necromancers.

Because I think you mean you're making another woman necromancer.

Hmmm.... "made" is a better term ;-)


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OK, Shieldmaiden HIPS pushed way forward, let us know what your choise is on the prefered SG Map version!!!





(pics here are not well visible due to their size, they are very clear on update #14 of our campaign page...) :-/

So, there's a new stretch goal map up, moving the first plastics much closer:



For those who missed it, there's also this picture of the Shieldmaidens. Spoliered due to being potentially unsuitable for work:

Hmm nice pic - some odd poses - especially the lady with the trident type spear thingy?

Far right is good shield wall type

Can we have some in armour as well?

sooo this sort of thing would be awesome and a MUST buy for me at least - love that show............



There may be a few more similar pics on the web

I agree with Mr Morden, the lass on the right is really nice and the Lord and Druid are excellent but the other three just turn me off.

Why do they have to have their kit out? Their cloths suggest they are from a cold climate so I was expecting more fur and armour rather than Amazons :(

Hi guys!

This was our take on the Northern Ladies :-) we believe to have created something nice, we cannot please everyone, that's for sure.
Before I continue with the pics, I'd like to note something that had slipped our attention, concerning one of the sculptors commissioned in our Team, MIKH.
Even after the "heads up" Grefven and a couple of others gave us, we still have him in our Team (we have even named him in our Kickstarter page) and believe in his sculpting abilities, however we don't mind about the comments about him being late, simply because he's NOT commissioned for the Kickstarter itself. He has been commissioned for something -which I can't reveal atm- to be done in February 2016... ;-)
If you have any questions about who will sculpt what, please ask, we are running a project and timelines MUST be met, we've done our best to ensure that and have things very clear in our heads.
I'll be briefly naming them here in open just to make it clear

-Paolo Fabiani is the sculptor of our Orc Characters and some of our Humans. He also sculpted the Great War Mammooth and is the one sculpting the Siberias Lions.
-Olivier Bouchet is sculpting the other 3 monstrous cavalry (bears, boars and bulls) along with some Humans.
-Davide Tedeschi is in charge of our Ogres, assisted a bit by Sean Bullough.
-Olivier Nkwetti has been commissioned to sculpt both Dragons and the 2 Northern Alliance riders.
-Patrick Keith is the head sculptor of the Northern Alliance Shieldmaiden Characters, assisted a bit by Paolo Fabiani. The Icemaiden Druid and Necromancer Maiden are his sculpts commissioned by us.

MIKH is a part of our Team and we are proud to have elevated our standards that high, thus we are also proud to name him. Hope this resolves the issue, we didn't dodge anything, we simply missed the comment about him and now that we've seen it wanted to chase away any clouds of doubt...

Now... for the 2 versions of the Shieldmaiden plastic kt.
Her's the first UNarmoured version (private parts can be covered in cloth if backers ask us to)



And here's the Armored version



So, let us know what you think, the comments in our Projects Update are really interesting so far :-)

Thank you.
Angelos.

I like the designs (except a couple of the strange poses), but yeah, I agree that they look more like Amazons than Northern warriors.

I like the ideas, but think covering them in cloth would be smart / allow them to have more uses and thus more sales.

I was hoping for a more 'Viking' feel, not 'Amazon' feel. I was looking forward to a Lagertha from Vikings look. Oh well as you say you can't please everyone, here's hoping the 5th race will get my attention..... If it's not to far down on the SG list.