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For any fans of transfers the Shield Of Baal Deathstorm transfer sheet is a whole world of disappointment.

 Deadshot wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
To be honest, I'd field that plastic SP as Corbulo over Corbulo's current model any day. Not a great deal of difference between em.

Loving those BA tactical squads, but I'd not have all my squad leaders with mop tops.

Bit lazy of GW to copy paste Calistarius/Mephiston's model from SH and basically just re-pose him

Its more than that. Its also a copy and paste of the old metal TDA libby, just turned to the right imstead of left (the Librarian's right and left). The old Librarian had a open hand a Heresy Style Combi-Weapon (side by side rather than under/over like the Tacticals), although it was a plasma rather than melta. It is actually a very clever model because they just rehashed the old model, which is safe business as they know the old one sold well, and to make it BA, added some Space Hulk flavour, because they know SH sold incredibly well. They are playing it safe with Deathstorm and the BA release me thinks.

I'm not sure you have a strong understanding of what 'copy paste' means in relation to sculpting.

 th3maninblak wrote:

 OIIIIIIO wrote:
I should have the Codex Wednesday or Thursday ...

And youll be on this forum codex in hand, right?

I will get home about 6:30 that night ... but, HELL YES!!!

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
For any fans of transfers the Shield Of Baal Deathstorm transfer sheet is a whole world of disappointment.

Photos?

Prepare to be amazed:

well that's original.

@Thraxas: OMGZZZ TOTES AMAZEBALLS... lol.

Yikes... They really blew the budget on that transfer sheet.

I kind of understand it as the Dread and Death Company are too blinged up to fit any transfers on but having seen the Stormclaw SW transfers these are a bit underwhelming.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I kind of understand it as the Dread and Death Company are too blinged up to fit any transfers on but having seen the Stormclaw SW transfers these are a bit underwhelming.

Any pics of the Stormclaw ones for comparison? I didn't get to see em.

Well if that is all we are going to get for decals in Deathstorm, I am going to try to make soft copies (so they wrap around the shoulder pad) of the FW Blood Angels icons to attach to my Terminators so they look more like the rest of the army with molded parts.

As for Do A being pushed to a Warlord trait, I hope there is an abundance of characters with the trait, because otherwise DS heavy armies(which most of BA are...) are doomed. I guess they are probably going to move a ton of BA Tactical squads. I am rethinking the entirety of my planned army. Sucks because I love the jump pack aesthetic. Might need to get a squad of Scout Bikers to infiltrate with a locator beacon.

Don't know if it's been put up yet, but here's a close up of the BA TH/SS Terminators

Those transfers remind me of the old Battle for Macragge, so I'm not surprised in the least. Has there not been a set since that had so few?

So is the consensus that the librarian is part of the terminator kit? There are two versions here, the darker one with the combi weapon featured with the new termies and the lighter one with outstretched hand on his own, suggesting it isn't simply a clampack character like the priest.

It's just a hand swap (not unlike the current Terminator Librarian), the rest of the model is completely the same so is probably mono-pose. Don't see why they would put a mono-pose option in a multi-part kit. Also, think of how much they could charge for him if he came in a clam pack; at least £20. My money's on solo figure.

The difference in paint quality of the combi-melta one and the oustretched hand version is stark, with the former being markedly superior to the latter. In general I noticed that a lot of the codex photos don't bear up to much zooming, very untidy line highlights on anything other than the Terminators.

It is likely that the Terminator Librarian is going to be in a box like the Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun, I think.

I think the transfers in the Baal box could never aspire to the FW sheet why worry about it . If you are serious about Blood Angel transfers you would have that already .

 Mousemuffins wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
To be honest, I'd field that plastic SP as Corbulo over Corbulo's current model any day. Not a great deal of difference between em.

Loving those BA tactical squads, but I'd not have all my squad leaders with mop tops.

Bit lazy of GW to copy paste Calistarius/Mephiston's model from SH and basically just re-pose him

Its more than that. Its also a copy and paste of the old metal TDA libby, just turned to the right imstead of left (the Librarian's right and left). The old Librarian had a open hand a Heresy Style Combi-Weapon (side by side rather than under/over like the Tacticals), although it was a plasma rather than melta. It is actually a very clever model because they just rehashed the old model, which is safe business as they know the old one sold well, and to make it BA, added some Space Hulk flavour, because they know SH sold incredibly well. They are playing it safe with Deathstorm and the BA release me thinks.

I'm not sure you have a strong understanding of what 'copy paste' means in relation to sculpting.

Nope, I use it in reference to Ctrl+C Ctrl+V where it duplicates what you've selected.

Anyway, its more akin to the old TDA Libby than Callistarus in terms of pose, but with elements of SH's version to promote sales (safety net because SH sold well so something like SH will sell well).

It is possible to quote without continually quoting the same picture over and over :p

If that terminator librarian is in a new terminator kit.. damn I'll buy two.

With regards to all the moaning & gnashing of teeth over the potential move of DoA to a Warlord Trait...

Does absolutely no one really think to have just a quick word with their opponent about simply choosing a Warlord Trait in their army list instead of rolling randomly?
And is Astronomi-con really the only tournament out there that allows players to pick a specific trait as long as it's clearly listed in their army list?!

This isn't a serious problem. A little bit of civilised conversation and both players can have some cake and eat it too.

 keas66 wrote:
I think the transfers in the Baal box could never aspire to the FW sheet why worry about it . If you are serious about Blood Angel transfers you would have that already .

Or not if you don't want half a sheets' worth of successor transfers you won't get around to using. Forgeworld has a good sheet is not a reason for GW to abrogate their responsibilities as far as transfer sheets go. The above just looks unfinished.

Experiment 626 wrote:
With regards to all the moaning & gnashing of teeth over the potential move of DoA to a Warlord Trait...

Does absolutely no one really think to have just a quick word with their opponent about simply choosing a Warlord Trait in their army list instead of rolling randomly?
And is Astronomi-con really the only tournament out there that allows players to pick a specific trait as long as it's clearly listed in their army list?!

This isn't a serious problem. A little bit of civilised conversation and both players can have some cake and eat it too.

It is such an easily solved issue in the first place. Infiltrated Scouts, characters with set abilities, etc. Never know, there might even be some wargear of some sort that mitigate the problem somehow. We really won't know until the codex hits.

DoA just seems like something that would have been more integral to the army than armywide Furious Charge.

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 troa wrote:
As for those who wish to whine ALREADY without the codex even being out, please go elsewhere. You make the internet a crappy place with your overt and unwarranted negativity.

You realize the hypocrisy in whining about whining, I hope.

They never do.

I wonder if they gonna boost sang priest in order to justify those 18£ for the new model (25€ in my country, damn crazy) and nerf Corbulo so people dont buy a far cheaper priest.

I'm sorry but running around with a cup in your hand while there is a planet infested with nids [MOD EDIT - Please find a different way to express yourself. - Alpharius]. Baal deserves everything that's coming to it!

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Prepare to be amazed:

LOL!!!

 Sidstyler wrote:
What? In the US a vanilla tactical squad is $40 and the new BA squad is $43.

That just makes all the sense.

Gotta pay for that extra 7mm on each of the bases somehow.

Is it just me or the sheer amount of Blood Angel specific bling on the Terminators and Tactical squad really off putting if you collect a successor chapter, like, say....Flesh Tearers.

I mean, I don't mind the odd blood drop, chalice or winged bit here or there but it'd be really nice if all the shoulder pads weren't Blood Angel specific and if at least some of that was 'optional' decoration.

 spacewolf407 wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Prepare to be amazed:

LOL!!!

A bit sparse if you ask me.

Experiment 626 wrote:
With regards to all the moaning & gnashing of teeth over the potential move of DoA to a Warlord Trait...

Does absolutely no one really think to have just a quick word with their opponent about simply choosing a Warlord Trait in their army list instead of rolling randomly?
And is Astronomi-con really the only tournament out there that allows players to pick a specific trait as long as it's clearly listed in their army list?!

This isn't a serious problem. A little bit of civilised conversation and both players can have some cake and eat it too.

This is what both of my gaming groups do, it's SOOOOO much better than the current system. There's still 2 other things to note though:
1) Guaranteed, there will be a character who comes with DOA that you can get if it's integral to your strategy.
2) We still just don't know the rules and are knee-jerk reacting. The warlord trait may do something entirely different than the old rule, and it might have just been shuffled elsewhere or become a detachment special rule.
If nothing else though, mass deep strike still kinda sucks. I was always overjoyed to see a mass deepstriking DOA list because it meant I'd feth them up so badly (weak shooting on the drop, everyone's spaced together, they can't charge so neuter the army's strength by charing them first, etc).