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 PhillyT wrote:
Tyranids are a fun army with a neat look. They can do lots of things other armies can't and have a distinctive feel.

Stop crying.

Tom Kirby.. Is that you my liege?

 Sasori wrote:

Tom Kirby.. Is that you my liege?

Nah, just a fisherman using bait.

Bait that could veer the topic into "try to prove the Tyranids are not what I said in my first paragraph" or "whine about being 'persecuted' despite making an insulting comment", instead of keeping it on topic.

 N.I.B. wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
The problem is that without a class that lets our big beasties move 12" we're going to be hosed. There are simply to many bullets out there right now for 6" moving beasties that don't carry a 2+ AND some form of invul/cover save.

Toxicreme has Shroud.

I bolded and highlighted the important part of the statement regarding 6" a turn moving MC's designed for CC.

Basically you need them both. A 2+ is for the cover ignoring weapons since they rarely have a solid AP. Shroud/Invul is for the low AP weapons of which there are many but the most prominent being grav.

And let's be a real. A T6 MC doesn't stand a chance today without either a 2+ or 8 wounds with all the high shot count/high strength shooting in the game now.

Look at the good MC's. T8 w/6 Wounds. T6 w/4 Wounds 2+/5+ and can teleport for the cost of the Toxicrene. T6 w/5 Wounds 2+/5+(can be 3+) and a jet pack move. Yeah, our non FMC's totally stand up to this standard.

I agree that it sucks. If I were my opponent, why would I fear this dude? I'd be glad to see the Toxicreme instead of 160pts of something else. Outside of catching a Wraithknight in the hands of a bad player, it just doesn't bring anything to the table.

Unless we've been trolled. And there might be some missing info. I'm not holding my breath though.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Oh, I'm sure I'll pick them up at some point. But it's going to be when I can use store credit, trade somthing, or find a stupidly good deal on them. Since it'd pretty much just be to have them and not use them. At least outside of a highlander format.

If we can't get GW to make good rules, we can at least get more tournies to adopt highlander format! (No duplicate units)

Now that I know more about this format, I am all about it . It would make for some much more interesting tyranid builds than we see currently (or at least, more interesting builds that can actually be viable / have a chance to compete).

Clearly they saw how effective grav was against slow moving MC's so they cleverly gave it a 4+ making it better...

See, see!

lol

I love how both combined are still worse then one 85pt malenthrope

If the rumor of Blood Angel Vs. Nids campaign box are to be believed, any ideas what the Limited Edition Tyranid model may be ?

Lords of wargaming said another big bug with 2 options.

They were kind enough to answer my questions this morning.

 adamsouza wrote:
If the rumor of Blood Angel Vs. Nids campaign box are to be believed, any ideas what the Limited Edition Tyranid model may be ?

Probably a Murdervore or a Killofex. It's a special strain evolution from the Pteradactylthrope lineage and is basically a Shrike with tons of skulls on the base and wings. Of course, we know Shrikes are offshoots of the Tyranid Mockingbird.

BeeCee wrote:
Lords of wargaming said another big bug with 2 options.

They were kind enough to answer my questions this morning.

I think they're referring to the Toxicrene:

Bryan Clark So, does that mean we will see any more tyranid releases as part of this campaign?
Like · Reply · 5 hours ago
Lords of War Gaming Yes, the model will be in the campaign book and rules will be in the box sets as well.
Like · about an hour ago
Bryan Clark as in a new model?
Like · 34 minutes ago
Lords of War Gaming Yes Tyranids will get a large bug that has two options.
Like · 1 · 30 minutes ago
Bryan Clark Thanks friends, can't wait for the reveal. So we have the toxic/brain bug and another big one. So pumped!

 SilverDevilfish wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

Tom Kirby.. Is that you my liege?

Nah, just a fisherman using bait.

Bait that could veer the topic into "try to prove the Tyranids are not what I said in my first paragraph" or "whine about being 'persecuted' despite making an insulting comment", instead of keeping it on topic.

Not in the least. It wasn't trolling. It was a statement of fact. At no point did I say they were a power army or terribly effective in a competitive setting, though they have one build that is. They are a fun army to use though in a normal setting.

People seem to lose sight of that as they fall all over themselves to disparage the list. Painting huge bugs is awesome.

could be man, hoepfully they will clarify.

 Frozocrone wrote:


I don't understand where GW is going with this WS3. MC have Fear...but practically only one army cares about Fear and mitigates it with Boss Poles.

I just want to point out that Boss Poles don't actually work on Fear checks.

#foreverafraid

Eben Fournier Lowy Wait, so another bug in addition to the toxic/brain?
Lords of War Gaming No just the current one you see.

 adamsouza wrote:
If the rumor of Blood Angel Vs. Nids campaign box are to be believed, any ideas what the Limited Edition Tyranid model may be ?

Maybe a special Prime?

 pretre wrote:
Eben Fournier Lowy Wait, so another bug in addition to the toxic/brain?
Lords of War Gaming No just the current one you see.

Hm, then what is the HQ going to be in that box set.

 pretre wrote:

2. A Campaign book will be released and if I remember correctly it's called Leviathan.

I bet that this will be the three Leviathan dataslates in hardback format, maybe with some extra stuff.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 pretre wrote:

2. A Campaign book will be released and if I remember correctly it's called Leviathan.

I bet that this will be the three Leviathan dataslates in hardback format, maybe with some extra stuff.

I hope so. I despise digital content.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 pretre wrote:

2. A Campaign book will be released and if I remember correctly it's called Leviathan.

I bet that this will be the three Leviathan dataslates in hardback format, maybe with some extra stuff.

Sad.but true.

Photos of the rules are doing the rounds:

 AlexHeap wrote:
Photos of the rules are doing the rounds:

4+ armor save! Nooooooooooo!

On the plus side, those pictures make them look like very cool models! The other pictures floating around hadn't convinced me, but these make them look pretty nice.

*sigh*

It does only cause a single glance on the vehicle then.

Thanks Pretre for posting! Can't wait to hear the contents of this boxed set.

God. It's true. That Maleceptor is so awfully bad it's unbelievable.

Well that is a familiar gutpunch feeling...

I actually like the minis but good lord are those redundant/underwhelming.


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Hyped for the Campaign/boxed set though.

rollawaythestone wrote:

 AlexHeap wrote:
Photos of the rules are doing the rounds:

4+ armor save! Nooooooooooo!

On the plus side, those pictures make them look like very cool models! The other pictures floating around hadn't convinced me, but these make them look pretty nice.

I could almost cry with sadness.

I want both, but they both suck so dearly.

Does the focussed witch fire need to roll to hit?

Until they FAQ Psychic Shriek / Psychic Overload, and other similar witchfires, the consensus is that yes, it needs to hit. ... making his BS 3 ridiculous...

:: Sigh ::

Oh well. I'll get them at some point just to paint when I can squeeze a deal out.

Looking forward to the campaign box. Got a buddy I could easily split it with.

I'll have to look but are there any other powers that would make it worthwhile?