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 angelofvengeance wrote:
A lot of The Incredible Hulk's failings were down to Edward Norton's interfering with the movie in production. Which is part of why Marvel got rid of him.


Norton's a notoriously difficult person to work with, so it's unsurprising things turned out the way they did.

As far as Agents of SHIELD? Well...






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 angelofvengeance wrote:
A lot of The Incredible Hulk's failings were down to Edward Norton's interfering with the movie in production.


LOL.

On one hand, you have Norton, a well-regarded actor with 3 Academy Award nominations under his belt. On the other hand you have the director of Clash of the Titans, Now You See Me, and The Brothers Grimsby.

I know who I'd listen to, and if Marvel had -- or picked a better director in the first place -- they might have ended up with a better film.

Here's one explanation of what went down, which makes it sound like it was about creative differences and wasn't overly hostile or about Norton being a jerk.

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-truth-about-edward-norton-vs-marvel/

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I am obviously crazy because I really like Cap 1 and Ang Lee's Hulk.

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 Easy E wrote:
I am obviously crazy because I really like Cap 1 and Ang Lee's Hulk.



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I liked Cap 1. But Ang Lee's Hulk....I vomited in my mouth.

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On the subject of Civil War, that penultimate trailer shot of both sides running at each other is really silly. The context had better be good.
   
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On the subject of Civil War, that penultimate trailer shot of both sides running at each other is really silly. The context had better be good.
It is the scene that they have to put in there so that they can show off the cast on posters. Just like in the Avengers movies they had all of the avengers circle up and pose for the camera.

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 Easy E wrote:
I am obviously crazy because I really like Cap 1 and Ang Lee's Hulk.



You're in good company because I do too


Same... honestly, the only Marvel movie I haven't had at least a bit of fun with, was Elektra.
   
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Elecktra was terribad. Even the daredevil movie had aspects I liked, like I loved Micheal Clark Duncan as the king pin. I couldn't even finish elektra and I tried twice
   
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Should just be a Marvel thread. It'd make life easier, and save you an aneurysm Alpha.

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I think I saw an add for a Lego game version of this film.



Okay then.


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It's DLC for the Lego Avengers game, I believe.

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http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/04/19/forty-things-i-loved-about-captain-america-civil-war-and-the-one-thing-i-really-didnt-semi-spoilers/


no real spoilers.


sounds promising anyway.

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Reviews are coming out, and it's sounding good.

Especially in comparison to the other hero v hero movie...

   
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I'm taking the reviews with a grain of salt considering Age of Ultron masqueraded as a Metacritic 66 despite being more like a 36 in quality.

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can't deny you get kind of a thrill seeing spidey swing into Cap. like that

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 timetowaste85 wrote:
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ang Lee's Hulk is not part of the MCU, and that's before we even get into things like the fact that Talbot dies in Ang Lee's Hung, yet he's a character that's alive and well in the MCU (and played by Adrian Pasdar, who often voices Iron Man in the cartoons).


I never said it was "officially" part of the continuity; just that there wasn't anything to prevent it (other than a fact I'd forgotten, clearly, so let's leave it at that ). It's still better than the one with Edward Norton in, though.

I'm not convinced about a resemblance between Adrian Pasdar and that comic panel, though.

Iron Man 3 introduced Tony Stark's PTSD from Avengers, which carried through into Avengers 2 (and CA3, by the looks of things, too). And kicked off Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oh God, Ang Lee's Hulk movie (the first one with Bana) was the second worst (at the time) marvel movie, being better than only Elektra. Even Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and the first FF movie (which I actually LIKED) were better. The Edward Norton version was a thousand times better. And I think the movie version of Abomination was far superior to every cartoon version ever, where he's always a dumb henchman and nothing more. This at least made him a credible threat. Did we even watch the same versions of these movies?!


I would have to disagree. Ang Lee tried to raise the bar on a comic book movie, with innovative visuals and an actual issue focused storyline. This is not something MCU has tried since.


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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
It's still better than the one with Edward Norton in, though.


Said no one else. Ever.


I'll say it. Hulk had its problems, and Lee tried too hard to elevate the material. He's since admitted that he should have cut back on all the psychological stuff. But at least he tried.

On the other hand, The Incredible Hulk was typical of Marvel's worse efforts -- polished, professional, by-the-numbers, bland and soulless.


Exactly.

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Well, just got back from seeing it.

That was a load of fun.

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I would have to disagree. Ang Lee tried to raise the bar on a comic book movie, with innovative visuals and an actual issue focused storyline. This is not something MCU has tried since.
Winter Soldier said "Hi!", and while it was here it also pointed out that Ang Lee's Hulk was a terrible film.

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So no one else has seen this yet?

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I would have to disagree. Ang Lee tried to raise the bar on a comic book movie, with innovative visuals and an actual issue focused storyline. This is not something MCU has tried since.


Issues (arms trade, responsability, the role and nature of governments, privacy. ethics,) have arisen in all the recent MCU movies, if you have missed them........well......guess need to watch them again.

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So no one else has seen this yet?

Not out in the US yet.
   
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Saw it, thoroughly enjoyed it, but I'm probably the target audience (recognise the characters enough to get excited, don't know them well enough to nitpick)

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Not out in the US yet.


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Spoiled post credit bit(s) -- if any -- please ?!


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Well, if you want...

Spoiler:
... there are two credit scenes, one after the flashy animated credits but before the proper black and white credits, and one right at the end.

One concerns Black Panther, and the final fate of one particular character (at least for now). The other is about Spider-Man.



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I saw it. Probably my 2nd fave film in the MCU after Cap2. Banter was good, considerably better than Avengers. I would watch a buddy cop show set in the MCU that just revolves around Falcon and Winter soldier. Ending made me really want a cap4

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The banter was better because it wasn't constant. AoU suffered mostly because it's heroes (and villain) never shut up with the quips. It reduced the tension to basically nothing, and even reduced the stakes as everyone seemed to be joking about everything.

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That's Joss Whedons style of writing and directing. See almost everything he's ever done.

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