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2016/03/16 08:57:40
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
angelofvengeance wrote: A lot of The Incredible Hulk's failings were down to Edward Norton's interfering with the movie in production. Which is part of why Marvel got rid of him.
Norton's a notoriously difficult person to work with, so it's unsurprising things turned out the way they did.
angelofvengeance wrote: A lot of The Incredible Hulk's failings were down to Edward Norton's interfering with the movie in production.
LOL.
On one hand, you have Norton, a well-regarded actor with 3 Academy Award nominations under his belt. On the other hand you have the director of Clash of the Titans, Now You See Me, and The Brothers Grimsby.
I know who I'd listen to, and if Marvel had -- or picked a better director in the first place -- they might have ended up with a better film.
Here's one explanation of what went down, which makes it sound like it was about creative differences and wasn't overly hostile or about Norton being a jerk.
AndrewGPaul wrote: On the subject of Civil War, that penultimate trailer shot of both sides running at each other is really silly. The context had better be good.
It is the scene that they have to put in there so that they can show off the cast on posters. Just like in the Avengers movies they had all of the avengers circle up and pose for the camera.
Still waiting for Godot.
2016/03/20 18:51:04
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Elecktra was terribad. Even the daredevil movie had aspects I liked, like I loved Micheal Clark Duncan as the king pin. I couldn't even finish elektra and I tried twice
2016/03/20 22:52:12
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2016/04/21 18:39:26
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
can't deny you get kind of a thrill seeing spidey swing into Cap. like that
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2016/04/26 10:48:20
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
H.B.M.C. wrote: Ang Lee's Hulk is not part of the MCU, and that's before we even get into things like the fact that Talbot dies in Ang Lee's Hung, yet he's a character that's alive and well in the MCU (and played by Adrian Pasdar, who often voices Iron Man in the cartoons).
I never said it was "officially" part of the continuity; just that there wasn't anything to prevent it (other than a fact I'd forgotten, clearly, so let's leave it at that ). It's still better than the one with Edward Norton in, though.
I'm not convinced about a resemblance between Adrian Pasdar and that comic panel, though.
Iron Man 3 introduced Tony Stark's PTSD from Avengers, which carried through into Avengers 2 (and CA3, by the looks of things, too). And kicked off Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Oh God, Ang Lee's Hulk movie (the first one with Bana) was the second worst (at the time) marvel movie, being better than only Elektra. Even Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and the first FF movie (which I actually LIKED) were better. The Edward Norton version was a thousand times better. And I think the movie version of Abomination was far superior to every cartoon version ever, where he's always a dumb henchman and nothing more. This at least made him a credible threat. Did we even watch the same versions of these movies?!
I would have to disagree. Ang Lee tried to raise the bar on a comic book movie, with innovative visuals and an actual issue focused storyline. This is not something MCU has tried since.
AndrewGPaul wrote: It's still better than the one with Edward Norton in, though.
Said no one else. Ever.
I'll say it. Hulk had its problems, and Lee tried too hard to elevate the material. He's since admitted that he should have cut back on all the psychological stuff. But at least he tried.
On the other hand, The Incredible Hulk was typical of Marvel's worse efforts -- polished, professional, by-the-numbers, bland and soulless.
Exactly.
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2016/04/26 11:01:03
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
Frazzled wrote: I would have to disagree. Ang Lee tried to raise the bar on a comic book movie, with innovative visuals and an actual issue focused storyline. This is not something MCU has tried since.
Winter Soldier said "Hi!", and while it was here it also pointed out that Ang Lee's Hulk was a terrible film.
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I would have to disagree. Ang Lee tried to raise the bar on a comic book movie, with innovative visuals and an actual issue focused storyline. This is not something MCU has tried since.
Issues (arms trade, responsability, the role and nature of governments, privacy. ethics,) have arisen in all the recent MCU movies, if you have missed them........well......guess need to watch them again.
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Saw it, thoroughly enjoyed it, but I'm probably the target audience (recognise the characters enough to get excited, don't know them well enough to nitpick)
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2016/04/28 13:18:46
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2016/04/28 14:55:43
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
I saw it. Probably my 2nd fave film in the MCU after Cap2. Banter was good, considerably better than Avengers. I would watch a buddy cop show set in the MCU that just revolves around Falcon and Winter soldier. Ending made me really want a cap4
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2016/04/29 00:19:18
Subject: Captain America: Civil War new trailer page 7
The banter was better because it wasn't constant. AoU suffered mostly because it's heroes (and villain) never shut up with the quips. It reduced the tension to basically nothing, and even reduced the stakes as everyone seemed to be joking about everything.
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