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**angelofvengeance**

I'm hoping DA chapter tactics will be more useful this time around. Didn't really like them in their current edition.

**General Hobbs**

Still giggling at the Horace Heresy.

**Reinokarite**

Rumors were that plus to stubborn we will get upgraded overwatch. But you should take it with huge sack of salt.

I really hope our prefered enemy would be more usefull (I'm looking at daemonkins) this time around.

Edited for grammar.

**Thairne**

Oooh improved overwatch?
I'd be all over that.
Eat Boltshells, 300pts of summoned demonettes chasing me all around the board..

**lord_blackfang**

The cover just says "How to build a DA Warhost"

Maybe GW will screw DA over again and just put a DA Decurion in WD?

**Formosa**

Talys wrote:
SickSix wrote:
bullyboy wrote:
DA termies are Fearless, have split fire and reroll misses after deep strike. They also were able to mix close combat weapons in their squads. I don't have the SM codex, but I believe those are the main differences.

Yes, DA termies are far more versatile than Vanilla termies. But hopefully Deathwing will see a small price reduction as well.

Indeed. Gimme a reason to paint up some more DWK!

Dw termies should be 35 like the vanilla ones, they get free stuff, so should we, knights should be 38-40 and th/S's 45 like the vanilla ones, I'm sick to the back teeth of paying more for the same terminators with rules that Hardly ever matter or are a hindrance, like fearless.

Oh and if any termies should get dual weapons at 5men, let it be dark angels!

**pretre**

JuniorRS13 wrote:

Yea whisperer of truth or whoever posts on here randomly and has said that a DA tac box has been made but had no idea on the timeframe.

PENDING Release Schedule Rumors - Apr 2015
As to the suggestion of Azrael, I'm going to post this here. I heard a little tidbit that contradicts some information I posted earlier.

Next 3 releases are still Eldar, TRUE
DA, FALSE Tzeentch.

I've now heard the DA Tac. Squad isn't coming with this release. (Which in no way means the release list has changed, the release dates do NOT change. If isn't coming it simply isn't coming.)

The Chaplain I heard about is also apparently going to be released separately rather than in a box set as I thought originally.

It was specifically titled a "Interrogator Chaplain" rather than just DA Chaplain ala the Blood Angel Libarian. TRUE

So as far as I know the release will just be a new Chaplain and Codex.

Release date May. FALSE

**bullyboy**

so, what do you expect to do with your DAs when the codex drops?
I have quite a mix of green/death/ravenwing all at the unpainted stage ready for this release. I'll probably start with a generic formation/CAD before specializing in Ravenwing or Deathwing. I guess picking up some dev sqds for grav will be in order, but not sure from there what else I will be doing.
can't wait until we start seeing some genuine leaks regarding this release

**JuniorRS13**

bullyboy wrote:
so, what do you expect to do with your DAs when the codex drops?
I have quite a mix of green/death/ravenwing all at the unpainted stage ready for this release. I'll probably start with a generic formation/CAD before specializing in Ravenwing or Deathwing. I guess picking up some dev sqds for grav will be in order, but not sure from there what else I will be doing.
can't wait until we start seeing some genuine leaks regarding this release

I'm leaning more towards Ravenwing, but Deathwing Knights are my favorite models so it's still up in the air for me. Regardless, I'm holding off buying anything until I see what changes have been made.

**Mathieu Raymond**

I have 38 Deathwing dudes that want to see the table so bad.

I'm not opposed to having more Ravenwing, but the PA dudes, I could forego. Scouts, maybe? Pods? I'd like to have a bunch of pods. I think. I don't know how they work anymore.

**Brillow80**

Caution: Wish-listing Incoming
I would love to see Ravenwing formation that grants hit-and-run in addition to skilled rider to all bikes, not just command squad, black knights, and HQ on bikes.
I can live without bikes getting access to grav while it would be pimp if DW was allowed to take it.
I would like a points drop for Sammael with a 2+ armor and maybe let him fire his plasma cannon even if jinked...lordy I love that model.
Speaking of models, I would buy GW out of the DA flyer kits if only they had rules to make the worth taking!
The deathwing knights are an amazing kit but after you pop the smite mode the only thing they are good at killing is CSM. The least they could do change the Mace to AP3 in normal mode.
Maybe give Azreal an AP2 weapon and EW but change up his 4++ to DA faction only.

I know what I'm probably gonna get is a normalizing of prices, some different relics and warlord table...but a boy can dream can't he!?

Any bets if the Dakka banner and PFG are going to still be the new dex?

**H.B.M.C.**

I hope that shoulder pad on the Chappy is a separate bit. He'd make a fine Deathwatch model.

**ZergSmasher**

Brillow80 wrote:

Caution: Wish-listing Incoming
I would love to see Ravenwing formation that grants hit-and-run in addition to skilled rider to all bikes, not just command squad, black knights, and HQ on bikes.
I can live without bikes getting access to grav while it would be pimp if DW was allowed to take it.
I would like a points drop for Sammael with a 2+ armor and maybe let him fire his plasma cannon even if jinked...lordy I love that model.
Speaking of models, I would buy GW out of the DA flyer kits if only they had rules to make the worth taking!
The deathwing knights are an amazing kit but after you pop the smite mode the only thing they are good at killing is CSM. The least they could do change the Mace to AP3 in normal mode.
Maybe give Azreal an AP2 weapon and EW but change up his 4++ to DA faction only.

I know what I'm probably gonna get is a normalizing of prices, some different relics and warlord table...but a boy can dream can't he!?

Any bets if the Dakka banner and PFG are going to still be the new dex?

I would love to see all of the above, especially the flyers being made usable in other than gimmick games. Although if I had my way, Azzy's 4++ would not be made DA only. If they did the mentioned buffs to Azrael, he would have to have a price hike and become a LOW instead of HQ. As for the last item, they had better not take out those things. Dakkabanner and PFG are something that make DA unique among space marines. They already nerfed the PFG into the ground, but it should stay in. I don't think they would remove the Dakkabanner entirely, but I can see them nerfing the hell out of it. After all, we don't want DA to be too OP, do we? (/sarcasm)

**Thairne**

Atia reports a "For the Lion"-Teaser for Monday...

**warboss**

Thairne wrote:
Atia reports a "For the Lion"-Teaser for Monday...

What's an Atia?

**pretre**

warboss wrote:
Thairne wrote:
Atia reports a "For the Lion"-Teaser for Monday...

What's an Atia?

Dude on B&C

**Lammikkovalas**

Thairne wrote:
Atia reports a "For the Lion"-Teaser for Monday...

Emperor be praised!

**warboss**

pretre wrote:
warboss wrote:
Thairne wrote:
Atia reports a "For the Lion"-Teaser for Monday...

What's an Atia?

Dude on B&C

Thanks. I didn't know if it was a fluff pig latin term or some new blog nonsense name ala Faeit.

**jreilly89**

so anyone know when the Codex will be up for pre-order? I'm guessing it's going to be within the next couple weeks?

**Timotheus**

jreilly89 wrote:
so anyone know when the Codex will be up for pre-order? I'm guessing it's going to be within the next couple weeks?

Next Saturday.

**JuniorRS13**

Azrael is temporarily out of stock. I normally don't read too much into that but he is in metal still. His current mini now still holds strong, but I would love for them to start updating the older character models. It seems like the last one was what, Santa Logan and Bjorn?

**Kanluwen**

JuniorRS13 wrote:
Azrael is temporarily out of stock. I normally don't read too much into that but he is in metal still. His current mini now still holds strong, but I would love for them to start updating the older character models. It seems like the last one was what, Santa Logan and Bjorn?

I wouldn't read much into it, since it's a "Temporarily Out Of Stock".

Read much into it when he vanishes off the site completely.

**Davor**

pretre wrote:
warboss wrote:
Thairne wrote:
Atia reports a "For the Lion"-Teaser for Monday...

What's an Atia?

Dude on B&C

Wouldn't that be Dudette?

**casvalremdeikun**

JuniorRS13 wrote:
Azrael is temporarily out of stock. I normally don't read too much into that but he is in metal still. His current mini now still holds strong, but I would love for them to start updating the older character models. It seems like the last one was what, Santa Logan and Bjorn?

All of the BA characters went out of stock around the same time as they got their new codex. Would not read into it.

Predictions:
Azrael becomes LoW, loses ability to make DW and RW troops.
Belial and Sammael lose ability to make DW or RW troops.
Greenwing, Deathwing, and Ravenwing all get formations akin to the Demi-Battle Company. There will be a combined strike force that can take any two of Greenwing, Deathwing, or Ravenwing.
Points reductions will emulate C:SM.
Company Veterans will NOT get Sternguard Ammunition.
Hefty boost to both flyers alongside a points reduction.

**JuniorRS13**

Also, GW just rearranged the website so each army has all their options in the tab, but DA has no tactical marines.

Again, it's probably nothing, and it might just be that I have way too much time on my hands with no rumors.

**DarkStarSabre**

JuniorRS13 wrote:
Also, GW just rearranged the website so each army has all their options in the tab, but DA has no tactical marines.

Again, it's probably nothing, and it might just be that I have way too much time on my hands with no rumors.

Or because of the Adeptus Asartes tag they expect you to use the normal Tactical Marines (as they always have done) and mix and match in bits from the Veterans box.

**Warhams-77**

The Dark Angels Codex books were removed from the GW webshop on Saturday. In the past this hinted at a Codex preorder the weekend afterwards. So Codex and Chaplain preorder will be at Saturday 20th of June - starting in the morning of each timezone.

Darnok rumored a Eldar Windrider Army boxed set between/after the Marine releases, which could still happen on June 27.

The Dark Angels have no Assault Squad in the webshop either. It could just be a mistake of the website team...

**Asmodai Asmodean**

Dark Angels Deathhammer Assault Force

2 Units of Deathwing Terminators
2 Units of Ravenwing Bikes

Ravenwing Bikes may fire after turbo-boosting once per game
Ravenwing Bikes may mark an enemy unit by firing at it

Deathwing Terminators may enter battle via Deep Strike in any turn after a unit is marked by Ravenwing bikes
Deathwing Terminators gain re-rolls to hit and wound against any marked unit
Deathwing Terminators may assault any marked unit from Deepstrike

Inner Circle Hunthammer Party

2 Units of Deathwing Knights
2 Units of Ravenwing Knights

Nominate a Character model in the opposing army as the target of the hunt, if character is slain in close combat by a unit from the Hunthammer Party gain D3 Victory Points

Ravenwing Knights may fire and charge after turbo-boosting once per game
Ravenwing Knights gain re-rolls to hit and wound against any marked unit

Deathwing Knights may enter battle via Deep Strike once a unit is marked by Ravenwing Bike Squad or Ravenwing Knight Squad
Deathwing Knights may assault any marked unit from reserves
Deathwing Knights activate Smite mode on the turn they arrive and lasts until the following game turn (this does not affect their normal activation)
Deathwing Knights gain re-rolls to hit and wound against any marked unit
Fortress of Shields increases Invulnerable Save to 2+ in addition to +1 Toughness

**casvalremdeikun**

JuniorRS13 wrote:
Also, GW just rearranged the website so each army has all their options in the tab, but DA has no tactical marines.

Again, it's probably nothing, and it might just be that I have way too much time on my hands with no rumors.

I would love to see them release a Tactical Squad for the Dark Angels. All of the other non-Codex: Space Marines received them, DA should as well. The big DA upgrade set is gone of the site, so that could mean something...if they didn't have those little $13.50 sets out. Then again, so do the SW and BA, so hopefully they do end up releasing a DA Tactical squad with some robes and whatnot.

**Warhams-77**

Asmodai Asmodean wrote:
Dark Angels Deathhammer Assault Force

2 Units of Deathwing Terminators
2 Units of Ravenwing Bikes

Ravenwing Bikes may fire after turbo-boosting once per game
Ravenwing Bikes may mark an enemy unit by firing at it

Deathwing Terminators may enter battle via Deep Strike in any turn after a unit is marked by Ravenwing bikes
Deathwing Terminators gain re-rolls to hit and wound against any marked unit
Deathwing Terminators may assault any marked unit from Deepstrike

Inner Circle Hunthammer Party

2 Units of Deathwing Knights
2 Units of Ravenwing Knights

Nominate a Character model in the opposing army as the target of the hunt, if character is slain in close combat by a unit from the Hunthammer Party gain D3 Victory Points

Ravenwing Knights may fire and charge after turbo-boosting once per game
Ravenwing Knights gain re-rolls to hit and wound against any marked unit

Deathwing Knights may enter battle via Deep Strike once a unit is marked by Ravenwing Bike Squad or Ravenwing Knight Squad
Deathwing Knights may assault any marked unit from reserves
Deathwing Knights activate Smite mode on the turn they arrive and lasts until the following game turn (this does not affect their normal activation)
Deathwing Knights gain re-rolls to hit and wound against any marked unit
Fortress of Shields increases Invulnerable Save to 2+ in addition to +1 Toughness

These are some really nice rules. Do you have access to the new book?