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 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
The last Quest of the Brotherhood gives you a pop-up saying the Institute will go hostile towards when you get into the Vertibird. RR will go hostile after you get the order to

Spoiler:

squash them under your power armored boots like the annoying people they are.

Problem tho... I still had a quest to finish with Tinker Tom... He's as dead as can be now.

I think the brotherhood offers you a similar mission.

Yeah, I just "dealt" with the Railroad. That left me feeling pretty dirty.

 djones520 wrote:
Yeah, I just "dealt" with the Railroad. That left me feeling pretty dirty.

I had complete different feeling. I rather enjoyed walking up to Desdemona, Telling her I was ordered to take them out, saying don't worry i'm really on their side... then showing her the business end of my Meltagun (explosive shotgun )

 djones520 wrote:
Yeah, I just "dealt" with the Railroad. That left me feeling pretty dirty.

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Nah. Dealing with the Railroad is like taking a lame horse behind the barn.

 keltikhoa wrote:

 djones520 wrote:
Yeah, I just "dealt" with the Railroad. That left me feeling pretty dirty.

I had complete different feeling. I rather enjoyed walking up to Desdemona, Telling her I was ordered to take them out, saying don't worry i'm really on their side... then showing her the business end of my Meltagun (explosive shotgun )

I used a railgun. Point blank range. To her face.

I fat manned the place

 Desubot wrote:
I fat manned the place

I haven't used that weapon yet. I've never encountered anything that I felt I needed it for, that wasn't already to close to take me with it. I might bring it along when I go to deal with the BoS though.

After leading an Institute raid on Libertalia spamming synth relay grenades, if and when I come to destroy the rail road, I'm going to use them again and drown them with a tidal wave of the synths they want to save.

Synth relay grenade spam = Instant army

I raided Libertalia at night time, and the whole place was lit up like a laser show, with battles off in the distance across the water.

My one regret, hoarding both the Vertibird and Synth relay grenades.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
After leading an Institute raid on Libertalia spamming synth relay grenades, if and when I come to destroy the rail road, I'm going to use them again and drown them with a tidal wave of the synths they want to save.

Synth relay grenade spam = Instant army

I raided Libertalia at night time, and the whole place was lit up like a laser show, with battles off in the distance across the water.

I wasn't given any of those till after I dealt with the Railroad.

Well technically neither was I, I just...er...borrowed them. Found about 30 in the armoury.

Also... setting up 6+ minutemen artillery in the castle then using it in the take out the BoS mission is hilarious fun.

 keltikhoa wrote:
Also... setting up 6+ minutemen artillery in the castle then using it in the take out the BoS mission is hilarious fun.

How so? Does having more than one gun in one location let you use the artillery more often or something?

Oh man i just realized i never used those grenades.

Also realized i probably could of used the flare gun too.

Huh, gak, you're right.. There was also that flare gun and the artillery signal grenades..

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 keltikhoa wrote:
Also... setting up 6+ minutemen artillery in the castle then using it in the take out the BoS mission is hilarious fun.

How so? Does having more than one gun in one location let you use the artillery more often or something?

More guns = more shells.

at least that was my experience. I admit I forgot all about the arty smoke until this point so when i used it... it was rather underwhelming 2-3 explosions. I had only rebuilt one of the cannons at that point. so rather than storming the objective, I backtracked to the castle, built and assigned 5 or so more artillery, and then used the smoke again. This time there were noticeably more shells pounding the area. I did not count but I would guess more like 10 shells hitting the area. Which wiped out all but 1 power armor guy on the outside of the building.

:Edit to add

I am sure you do not need to build them all in the castle but I know it is in range for that specific mission. Just remember to tune into freedom radio to hear them acknowledge the strike. Presumably that radio station will also alert you if you are out of range for the arty guns in case you want to test the range

I met the Railroad once before killing them all so I didn't really build up too much of a connection at all.

On my second playthrough and will probably go BoS.

Interesting that everyone here seems to have murdered the poor Railroad rather than helping them

Clearly no one likes FREEDOM..

Nothing poor about a bunch of idiots who do more harm than good in the long run. They had to be put down.

If only all Synths were like Nick Valentine.

 Pacific wrote:
Interesting that everyone here seems to have murdered the poor Railroad rather than helping them

I didn't. The Brotherhood and Institute are both far more rational, but also evil. The Brotherhood is a tyrannical Mechanicus in the making (it's mineses! MY PRECIOUS TECH!) who will kill anyone who gets in their way and the Institute, while advanced, sees nothing wrong with disappearing people. So far as I can tell the Railroad, while not the most logical or practical group, is not evil.

As to the Synth relay grenades, you can cause a rather odd issue with them on the Prydwen. Amazingly when you go up there to take them down it can take serious time to get caught infiltrating- even with Strong as your companion. I wiped them all out when discovered and then set about looting the place but eventually needed to lighten my load. Never having used a relay grenade before I didn't know what they did and ended up spawning a bunch of Synths on the nearly empty ship. I did this just outside the armoury. They wandered upstairs a little with me (amusingly picking up discarded weapons such as miniguns) and we encountered the young scribe. Bethesda doesn't allow children to be killed in their games, so when the little prick when hostile on me the Synths lit him up. Couldn't kill him of course but they chased him around the ship non stop until they cornered him and he sat cowering in a corner, on fire, getting wailed on by three terminator wannabes.

 Pacific wrote:
Interesting that everyone here seems to have murdered the poor Railroad rather than helping them

Synths are abominations, of course I murdered their fan club.

 Kojiro wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
Interesting that everyone here seems to have murdered the poor Railroad rather than helping them

I didn't. The Brotherhood and Institute are both far more rational, but also evil. The Brotherhood is a tyrannical Mechanicus in the making (it's mineses! MY PRECIOUS TECH!) who will kill anyone who gets in their way and the Institute, while advanced, sees nothing wrong with disappearing people. So far as I can tell the Railroad, while not the most logical or practical group, is not evil.

Yeah, the Institute might seem fairly not evil sometimes, as even the whole "replacing people with synths" things can be somewhat justified (not much different than our own use of modern day spies and sleeper agents), but what they did at University Point (wiped a whole town just on the rumor of some prewar data they wanted) pretty much falls on the evil side of the line.

I've got my BoS playthrough going (level 30 something?) and just recently started my "mom" Institute side playthrough.


As I progress, I may end up viewing the Railroad basically the same as Caesar's Legion in NV, and just say feth them every time

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
I've got my BoS playthrough going (level 30 something?) and just recently started my "mom" Institute side playthrough.


As I progress, I may end up viewing the Railroad basically the same as Caesar's Legion in NV, and just say feth them every time

I tended to go Legion every time. They'll establish order and law, then liberalise later, I told myself.

Eh, their bad outwayed the good, IMO. They are violent, sexist, fascists. I tended to go independent or NCR.

Eyup, the Legion was a horrendous faction, more or less the designated "we need a faction so bad only a nazi would love them" the way they were portrayed. Though the Legion did suffer a lot from a rushed release, as from what I recall a lot of their content had to be cut.

Yeah, you don't see a lot of what they are. Their lands are certainly the safest most orderly lands, but they were too violent and backwards for me. Especially with them eschewing medicine.

But was it really the Legion responsible for all that law and order, or was it Caesar? I don't believe the Legion would be able to truly survive the loss of Caesar, and would end up tearing itself apart within a couple years.