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Edit: See the thread for the relaunched campaign here!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/682354.page#8497535



I'm a fan of tre's metal figures, and was excited to hear he was thinking about moving to plastic, and making a game to go along with it (some details buried deep in this thread).

His pre-game, first set of plastics are up, with 15 figures (5 unique poses, modular heads and weapons) available for $45. Stretch goals are in consideration, but none shown yet. It's a short KS, only 16 days, and I'll try to keep this up to date as it goes. (this is my first "news" thread, so constructive criticisms also welcome!)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/warbands-of-the-cold-north-epic-viking-28mm-miniat/description

Very excited for this and I hope it funds. I'm happy to be honest to see more KS creators being realistic about what's needed to fund a project and not setting a bunch of "fake" stretch goals to hit. Just straightforward - I want to make this, it will cost me this much to do!

I've backed a bunch of Tre's KS and been happy with what I've received in every single one of them.

Good luck Tre. WIPs look good so far.

Looking forward to this!

Even managed to nab an early bird despite being side tracked at a silly meeting!

They look good but I'm not even remotely in the market for this at the moment :( Best of luck Tre!

Look great, price is very good - backed

I hope this does as well as it deserves to

Same here - just able to grab the last Early Bird!

thanks verymuch for the thread pancake onions, and for all the well wishing and support everybody!

I'm sure they will look awesome like all of your stuff tre, however I won't pay $3 each+shipping for PVC models, just can't do it man :/

I love tre's sculpts and if they were hips i would grab loads but every single pvc figure I've had has been a let down (from lots of different producers )

I hope you can do this for your style of elves! No one makes decent elves :( They are either old sculpts or character models or look silly ( skirts....why would an agile race fight in skirts). RBG's elves are the best!

Backed! Love your sculpts and the price point is very nice. I usually detest PVC too, but I think I am willing to take this risk.

By the by, where are they shipping from to us? Should I happen to be in the Greenville area this winter, could I just swing buy and pick them up? Better to spend shipping on a beer for you, after all

Is it Trollcast?


Anyway, I wish this project the best of luck, but I'm all tapped out. Tre's sculpts for Reaper are my favorite takes on each of his subjects, so I'll probably pick some up at retail.

Not Trollcast, PVC. I am a little leery of that, but this is one of the few KS that I honestly just want to have happen, as opposed to wanting a huge discount etc. If PVC works well for Tre's stuff I look forward to spending 3$ a model on ALL the things.

Oh, so it's not proper plastic. That explains the 3-part models - HIPS moulds do not agree at all with undercuts, while PVC moulds just mutilate your models a bit.

if it is like the pvc that Cool Mini or Not is using lately it is actually really nice. The blood rage models cleaned easy and have nice details. It shouldn't be like bones or mantic's restic I don't think

 Da Boss wrote:
Very excited for this and I hope it funds. I'm happy to be honest to see more KS creators being realistic about what's needed to fund a project and not setting a bunch of "fake" stretch goals to hit. Just straightforward - I want to make this, it will cost me this much to do!

I second this. I'd love if this kind of simple setup was to become more common. It would cut down significantly on delays and mis-packs.

I'm tempted to back this even though I don't have much use for the models (which look pretty gorgeous don't get me wrong), just to encourage this kind of simpler setup.

Just backed and really love the layout of the campaign! Hopefully I can up it a bit before the end... best of luck here

I took great pains to make these models as friendly for PVC production as I possibly could.

As for frame of reference; the manufacturer handling this production is the same manufacturer that handels Privateer Press's production. This won't be bendy rubbery PVC. This is the Hard grade PVC.


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and thanks everybody! The box is intended to expand as funding allows. $40,000 is the bare minimum I can afford to make this project happen and be worth while for me. I wanted to pay for all of the aspects of production and processing up to final fulfillment AND then have enough money to restock the product to keep it available at retail. This is the test product to better understand the process for when I launch my big deal campaign for the SDSP and for the future product format for RBG goign forward.

Privateer Press's restic? Oh dear.

I think we've been told that this is the 'high quality', recent "CMON-like" PVC - Zombicide Black Plague/Blood Rage level, I think/hope?

Fingers crossed!

Because I want these minis, but I really want the SDSNRBG Project (super duper secret next Red Box Games) to be able to utilize it to get *everything* from that one when it launches!

In all fairness, Privateer's stuff can be hit and miss.

My Northkin Firebreathers were great- no flash or terrible mold lines.

My Trollkin Warders were a hot mess of lines in the worst of places.

Don't know if it's been asked yet, but how will these scale with the rest of the RBG figures? Isn't the PVC supposed to shrink or whatever?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Privateer Press's restic? Oh dear.

I thought PP had made improvements to their PVC. I've heard good things about the Khador IFP in PVC from people but I haven't seen those in person. I'm backing anyway because there's always room for more vikings and I want to get these if they're the test models for the SDSP. I just hope it funds fully; for whatever reasons, Tre's work always gets good reviews but seems to struggle to with exposure.

$40,000 grand to fund 15 Norse minis that are practically the same as dozens of other products already on the market? And it's probably going to fund?

My favorite part about these ones is the minis aren't even finished, just had to hurry and get them up there with no heads. Cause the face can definitely make or break an interest in a sculpt.

I should start making these myself...

Edit; and with only five unique poses to boot...

You might not be well acquainted with Tre's work. His stuff is generally heads and shoulders above what other companies put out. I would prefer to see more of the model ahead of time, but Red Box games has never disappointed me. Your mileage may vary of course.

They did have heads, but Tre (being Tre) decided at the last minute that they weren't good enough and is re-doing them

He also plans to replace some of the duplicates with new sculpts if things go well

so as long as he's accounted for the shrinkage it should be good

I like Tre's sculpts very much, but I'm wary of PVC.

Also, the $40,000 goal does seem very high considering the number of figures on offer; if it costs that much to produce, why not go with HIPs?

It would cost even more as each mini would be broken down into a lot more parts needing more space meaning more moulds to cut

I suspect he's going for 3 to start with, 1 head, 1 body which we'll get 4 of and 1 weapon,

for HIPS you might well need another 2 body spues as you'd have to break the sculpt up more to remove undercuts that PVC can handle and HIPS can't so $40K might well be $60K
(or 40K but only a couple of body types rather than 5)

I do hope he's able to add "add ons" to the campaign, in the hope that folks will up their pledges. None of his previous six campaigns (save the first) has broken the magical $40K barrier.

But the add ons would have to be in metal - which goes against the grain of this project. I've got my fingers crossed that we'll see some added incentive to give tre more money soon!

Yeah, the sculpts would have to be modified or broken down to remove the undercut issues, but even then you are not looking at more than two average size sprues.

Even if the plastic tooling cost in the region of $7.500 (please correct me if it is higher than this) per sprue, it still works out significantly cheaper.

The figures just don't stack up to me.