Rising Sun from CMON Kickstarter now Live and Funded

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**Ian Sturrock**

If Eric Lang's track record is anything to go by, Rising Sun will be lean, elegant, strategic, tactical, combat-heavy, and quick to play. So you should be fine with it.

I don't think he's ever done any "just because" mechanics.

Even Chaos in the Old World, which is kind of clunky, has pretty much perfect rules as long as you don't mind that slight bit of clunk. Blood Rage felt like a direct descendant of CitOW, but plays in less than half the time, and has more combat. I've found Blood Rage to be a real hit with everyone I've played it with.

It doesn't have any dice though.

If rolling dice is vital, it's the wrong game and you should get CitOW instead.

**JohnHwangDD**

MLaw wrote:
That said.. I have no clue if the Rising Sun mechanics are similar to what I'm describing..

I am fairly sure Massive Darkness (which I am using as a barometer for CMON going forward) is going to be a variation of Zombicide.. if not with even more of those "wonderful" little tedious additions that I don't feel add to the experience.

Rising Sun draft rulebook v0.9 was released a couple(?) days ago, so you can check it for yourself. Possibly solo playtest. See the ink in the KS Update for details.

By the end of it, I wasn't feeling it for Massive Darkness. The higher minimum buy-in didn't help.

**BobtheInquisitor**

So, I'm not terribly familiar with Japanese mythology, but are many of the gods really monsters with horns?

**akai**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
So, I'm not terribly familiar with Japanese mythology, but are many of the gods really monsters with horns?

This is a fairly common depiction of Raijin/Fujin -

**BobtheInquisitor**

Thanks!

Interest in Japanese mythology rising...

**reluxor**

That Raijin/Fujin is my actual mouse pad. I bought it in the national museum in Tokyo. There was also miniatures of typical japanese "demon" that the souvenir shop of the museum was selling and they were in some way similar to those you can find in this kickstarter (like freaky).
As a mini connoisseur and japan fan I could not resist, even if almost bankrupted lol.

I backed it yesterday and I am pretty glad with it.

(PS: I already backed sedition wars in the past)

**JohnHwangDD**

And they're going to give us a box if it gets over $4++M!

Which is good, as the plain cardboard looks pretty awful.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Reluxor, did the models fit with tabletop miniatures?

Anyway, the box looks nice. If it's sturdy enough, I can use it to store all kinds of unassembled miniatures. Useful. Unfortunately, the next stretch goal is just a pack of cards. I can't think of any use I'd get out of gameplay components.

**JohnHwangDD**

Rising Sun closed at $4.2M, and they threw in the extra cards that we would have gotten at $4.3M.

Bob, you might be able to find a no-miniatures gameplay fan on BoardGameGeek. or eBay.

**Theophony**

I only went in for a $1 pledge, I was really hoping for more, but the art style didn't do it for me. Thankfully they announced in update 37 that the next Kickstarter for them is in May Zombicide:Green Horde, the sequel to Black Plague, where infected goblins and orcs amass in huge hordes

. I think I'll be dropping my cash there.

**Moopy**

3 Dragons!

**Fafnir**

On one hand, I didn't want to spend the money. On the other, that's a problem for future me, and that guy's an donkey-cave. Got in at the last second.

**deleted20250424**

Latest update also says they are launching; Zombicide Green Horde in May.

A Black Plague follow up based around undead Orcs and Gobbos.

**Popsghostly**

First Kickstarter I joined. Got in at the last second too. Can't wait for... a year. The miniatures and the art blew me away.

I pledged enough for the book and the expansion. Waiting for the survey. Paid way much than I could afford at the moment lol.

**BobtheInquisitor**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
Rising Sun closed at $4.2M, and they threw in the extra cards that we would have gotten at $4.3M.

Bob, you might be able to find a no-miniatures gameplay fan on BoardGameGeek. or eBay.

That's my plan. Maybe I can trade them for more minis. Failing that, I end up using game cards as bookmarks. When this arrives, I'll finally have the motivation to read Shogun, Tales of the Otori, or Yamada Monogatari. Anyone have a recommendation on which to read first?

This was my first CMON Kickstarter since Sedition Wars. I anticipate a smoother resolution.

**SlaveToDorkness**

I haven't read the others, but the Otori series is excellent!

**vitki**

Looking forward to this. Blood Rage is great and I think this one will be a really challenging game.

Figures were really nice in Blood Rage and I'm not expecting anything less from this one.

**JohnHwangDD**

Shogun was a fun read, but that was a very long time ago.

**ced1106**

RANDOM NEW ZEALAND DUDE APPEARS IN RISING SUN GAME

So, it looks like Rising Sun named a KSE monster, Kotahi, based on a Wiki entry. A fake one.

"Yeah so about this thing… It was one of my online buddies from Australia that was trolling one night about three or so years ago editing Wikipedia pages, Kotahi-Manawa is my name and the ‘rage’ refers to the way I sometimes rage when we’re playing games, Tyralis contacted me on Facebook and I thought it was a pretty funny and interesting way to wake up lol, I thought it was funny how much research the devs put into the characters of this game. I actually really like the art though…

https://www.tabletoptribe.com/new-zealand-dude-rising-sun-board-game/

**BobtheInquisitor**

Dammit! I bought into this game expecting an accurate and respectful adaptation of Japanese mythology!

**spiralingcadaver**

That's... pretty embarrassing. Yeah.

I didn't expect something great, but only doing the "research" based on a wiki entry is pretty lame.

**Ian Sturrock**

Victims of their own success...

"Quick, we need a new mini as a stretch goal"

*scans wikipedia*

"This one will do. We'll do some proper research once all this Kickstarter craziness is over. Check some books out of the library and find out for sure what this Kotahi critter does."

**highlord tamburlaine**

What's silly is it's obviously based on the Monkey King, which already is fairly identifiable in Western hobby/ pop culture, and comments about the name were being raised during the actual campaign as soon as it was unveiled.

This one just reeks of laziness.

**Alpharius**

Agreed, but with $4.2M+ raised here, I don't think CMON will learn their lesson!

**Yodhrin**

I'm not sure there's much of a lesson to learn? I mean, they're clearly taking some liberties with the source material regardless, and that source material is heavily mythical(ie, fictional) anyway - will anyone except the "weeehhhhahhh, cultural appropriaaaation!" crowd even care?

I mean I'm sure someone will be getting a wee talking too for not checking the article's sources because of the PR aspect, but it's not like they accidentally included some monstrous hated historical figure who ate babies or anything.

**Alpharius**

Exactly?

They clearly aren't going to give a crap because, at the end of the day, it isn't a big deal, and who really cares anyway?

*MAYBE* they'll fact check a little better going forward?

But probably not!

**BobtheInquisitor**

Or make a special premium pledge level in the next KS. "For $1,000 we will name a monster after you! Makes a great addition to your personal Wikipedia entry or LinkedIn profile!"

**BobtheInquisitor**

My Rising Sun box arrived. The shipping box was humongous. The core box is beautiful and sturdy. The miniatures are very good quality upon first inspection, but I haven't had time to see how sharp their ankles are or whatever. The monsters are gorgeous, although some of them have white fuzzy spots where the packaging has abraded the plastic. Overall, I am very pleased with the results.

If anyone is interested in just having the rules, I'd will sell all the nonplastic game components for ~~$10~~ a price so low I can't advertise it plus shipping.

**SlaveToDorkness**

OMG somehow I missed the email that requested my shipping. I don't know if I ever paid it!

**SlaveToDorkness**

Update: I got my stuff sans playmat yesterday!

Freaking awesome models! I'll be painting them until I die though...lol