Codex Genestealer Cult

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**Sirius42**

Any chance of an op update of the first post? This is getting a little unwieldy

**KevinMack**

Do Abbarents gain any new wargear or rules and do they have to upgrade to get power picks/hammers? Also what units can buy transports

**Ghaz**

Crystal-Maze wrote:
Necros wrote:
Hmm.. could a broodlord count as a patriarch? I just like the mini and wanna use it

Well I'm using my space hulk broodlord as a patriarch, so I'm saying yes. If you plan to use the stock broodlord, maybe put it on a tall base so it equals the new overkill patriarch mini in size.

This is the current Broodlord model sold by Games Workshop and comes on a 75mm x 42mm oval base:

**Caederes**

KevinMack wrote:
Do Abbarents gain any new wargear or rules and do they have to upgrade to get power picks/hammers? Also what units can buy transports

99% sure they're identical to those in Overkill.

Only questions I have....Iconward points cost, and points cost of the Rock Drill/Saw/Grinder for the Acolytes. I think we know pretty much everything else now right?

**nels1031**

Sirius42 wrote:
Any chance of an op update of the first post? This is getting a little unwieldy

Was going to say the same.

**minionboy**

Have we confirmed if any of the units (other than Purestraints) come with Infiltrate by default?

**Crystal-Maze**

Ghaz wrote:
Crystal-Maze wrote:
Necros wrote:
Hmm.. could a broodlord count as a patriarch? I just like the mini and wanna use it

Well I'm using my space hulk broodlord as a patriarch, so I'm saying yes. If you plan to use the stock broodlord, maybe put it on a tall base so it equals the new overkill patriarch mini in size.

This is the current Broodlord model sold by Games Workshop and comes on a 75mm x 42mm oval base:

God, that proves how out of touch I am. I was picturing this critter:
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/9/92/Tyranid_Broodlord.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100330115241

**shadowfinder**

tetrisphreak wrote:
Overkill gives you 12 acolytes and 16 neophytes and 4 aberrants, enough to run just 1 unit of neophytes or aberrants and 2 of acolytes. If you have the means I would recommend getting at least one other set of the cult somehow, then bolstering your minis with the multi part boxes that are coming out.

for $29 you can get a box of 10 cadians, and using the extra heads from the neophytes multi kit you can make 10 more infantry about $1 cheaper per.

So what version of the Leman Russ is best for this army? I'm magnetizing the one i picked up sunday so i can swap the turrets but I think a tank hunter (Vanquisher, lascannon, sponson multi-meltas) would help crack open transports for my cultists to spill into with lasguns or laspistols and rending claws etc.

Lots of Hive Guard would work for popping tanks with a Malanthrope and 2 flyrants at the most would work well.

**Necros**

Yeah that's the same old metal broodlord I have too. Though I guess if one comes with Deathwatch Overkill it should be fine and I could always mix the old broodlord in with the regular sealers as an alt pose I guess.

Trying to decide if I want to do the new army as part of my old Alienids or start something all new. Was thinking I'd paint the men with that yellowish brown facehugger colored skin, and black armor.

**shadowfinder**

Gunzhard wrote:
Anyone know which page of this thread here has the bulk of the Decurion/rules etc?

I have TONS of Tyranids-and-Genestealers ...1 box of Deathwatch:Overkill, and single Chimera, and a single Leman Russ tank.

Can I build a working army with just that stuff?

Page 49 has a pick of the pages. look forward for that like page 51 or 52 for a list of a lot of the rules.

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seapheonix wrote:
Has anyone seen approximate points cost of the primus yet? Spitballing lists like everyone else and I'm trying to figure out the subterranean uprising.

75 before upgrades

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Any info on the Iconward yet?

Is it 01 like the other for the big formation?

**Charax**

any word on how the Overkill formations interact with the GSC Codex? any mention of them at all outside of the fluff?

**shadowfinder**

Sirius42 wrote:
Any chance of an op update of the first post? This is getting a little unwieldy

This has a complet run down of the info so far.

Most of the info is from here.

http://thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-stealer-release-prices

**Lingula**

Caederes wrote:
Do we know the points costs of the Acolyte melee weapons like the Rock Saw and so on? Seems to be the only missing detail now.

not great quality, but a still from the BOLS vid

**angelofvengeance**

Interesting that Acolytes are as strong as Space Marines and with WS4 and I4 they should be pretty great in CC

**dan2026**

They aren't fearless anymore.

But every one can have a flamer.

Burny burny time.

**gnome_idea_what**

tetrisphreak wrote:
Obvi I'm gonna compare when the model comes out, but has anybody considered converting ork battlewagons into goliaths and rockcrushers? (Without and with a deffrolla, respectively)

Yes. I mentioned it in another thread, but the rockcrusher could look pretty AV14 and it could look pretty cool. The problem is that it's too small to be transporting 20 orks. If I get one, I'll either add a trailer for transport or turn it into a gunwagon or big trakk. I'd need to see a proof of concept before shelling out full price on one though.

Edit:
@shadowfinder thank you for that link.

**cuda1179**

Am I reading that right? Acolytes are 8 points per model, and have (on the charge) 4 attacks each at Initiative 4, WS 4, and rending? That's a steal. 20 of those could down a Space Marine squad with no problems.

**shadowfinder**

Any info on the inconward's HQ choice?

Also what does a upgrading a icon in a acolytes unit do?

Any info or links would be nice.

**Tyranid607**

KevinMack wrote:
Do Abbarents gain any new wargear or rules and do they have to upgrade to get power picks/hammers? Also what units can buy transports

No new items, just picks or hammer for feel
They does have feel no pain and stubborn together with rending claws
Can't buy transport
But I think it can take rockgrinter

**Ambience 327**

cuda1179 wrote:
Am I reading that right? Acolytes are 8 points per model, and have (on the charge) 4 attacks each at Initiative 4, WS 4, and rending? That's a steal. 20 of those could down a Space Marine squad with no problems.

Yup. Combine it with the new Primaris Power, and the Marines will be WS3 and I3, so you'll be hitting first and hitting on 3's as well.

**Tyranid607**

cuda1179 wrote:
Am I reading that right? Acolytes are 8 points per model, and have (on the charge) 4 attacks each at Initiative 4, WS 4, and rending? That's a steal. 20 of those could down a Space Marine squad with no problems.

2 -track I supposed, unless the pistol and rending does not court toward to its default profile

**shadowfinder**

Tyranid607 wrote:
KevinMack wrote:
Do Abbarents gain any new wargear or rules and do they have to upgrade to get power picks/hammers? Also what units can buy transports

No new items, just picks or hammer for feel
They does have feel no pain and stubborn together with rending claws
Can't buy transport
But I think it can take rockgrinter

Glad to see you are online today.

Can you tell us what the is info on the inconward's HQ choice?

Also what does a upgrading a icon in a acolytes unit do?

And thanks again for the great info.

**Ambience 327**

Tyranid607 wrote:
2 -track I supposed, unless the pistol and rending does not court toward to its default profile

The bonus for an extra weapon is never listed in their base profile, so they get 2 Attacks, +1 for Charging and +1 for 2 Weapons.

**EnTyme**

Charax wrote:
any word on how the Overkill formations interact with the GSC Codex? any mention of them at all outside of the fluff?

Fluff-wise, I believe the Ghosar Quintus brood was eventually wiped out. On the tabletop, they have the same faction as the rest of the codex, so there isn't anything preventing you from fielding them alongside a GSC detachment. They're just unique versions of the units in the codex. Not that you couldn't substitute the GQ dataslates for the units in detachment, though.

**Tyranid607**

shadowfinder wrote:
Gunzhard wrote:
Anyone know which page of this thread here has the bulk of the Decurion/rules etc?

I have TONS of Tyranids-and-Genestealers ...1 box of Deathwatch:Overkill, and single Chimera, and a single Leman Russ tank.

Can I build a working army with just that stuff?

Page 49 has a pick of the pages. look forward for that like page 51 or 52 for a list of a lot of the rules.

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seapheonix wrote:
Has anyone seen approximate points cost of the primus yet? Spitballing lists like everyone else and I'm trying to figure out the subterranean uprising.

75 before upgrades

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Any info on the Iconward yet?

Is it 01 like the other for the big formation?

Oh man I have been answering about inconward serveral times already

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Ambience 327 wrote:
Tyranid607 wrote:
2 -track I supposed, unless the pistol and rending does not court toward to its default profile

The bonus for an extra weapon is never listed in their base profile, so they get 2 Attacks, +1 for Charging and +1 for 2 Weapons.

The default gear bouns is not listed in the profile? I wonder that

**zamerion**

Tyranids thanks for all the info!!

Can you said what do the cult icon in each unit? and if the acolyte iconward feel no pain is acumulative with other acolytes iconwards?

Ninjed jeje

**Tyranid607**

Model in a unit with + 1 WS whisky the bearer is alive

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zamerion wrote:
Tyranids thanks for all the info!!

Can you said what do the cult icon in each unit? and if the acolyte iconward feel no pain is acumulative with other acolytes iconwards?

Actually only aberrant got feel no pain in the whole unit, so it is +1 to aberrant and 6+ to others

**Tyranid607**

I wounder if the unquestioning loyalty auto pass look out sir if in cc too or have to roll for look out sir in cc

**terry**

seeing how you can look out sir in a challenge with this rule and nothing stating that you can only use the rule with shooting attacks, I would say it works in cc

**tetrisphreak**

Does the sacred cult icon the iconward carries grant anything additional to the +1 WS a standard cult icon grants?