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 Alpharius wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
I'm super annoyed that nothing can transport primaris marines.




Same here!

It can take Terminators and the cost of 2 slots, and Centurions at the cost of 3 slots, but a Primaris...can't fit?!?

Because Primaris are gonna be their own army and get their own transports on top of alleviating the fear of current marines being defunct?

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
I'm super annoyed that nothing can transport primaris marines.




Same here!

It can take Terminators and the cost of 2 slots, and Centurions at the cost of 3 slots, but a Primaris...can't fit?!?

Because Primaris are gonna be their own army and get their own transports on top of alleviating the fear of current marines being defunct?


Regular marines don't allow primaris in their transports, they are bullying the new guys.

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So, does anyone else feel like the FW characters are pretty consistently overpriced? I haven't looked at all of them, but so far I've pretty regularly come up against feeling like a similar but vanilla character would get the job done for way less.


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Zhufor the impaler seems decently priced.

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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
So, does anyone else feel like the FW characters are pretty consistently overpriced? I haven't looked at all of them, but so far I've pretty regularly come up against feeling like a similar but vanilla character would get the job done for way less.

Forge World has a history of overpricing their stuff. Not sure why.


 
   
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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
So, does anyone else feel like the FW characters are pretty consistently overpriced? I haven't looked at all of them, but so far I've pretty regularly come up against feeling like a similar but vanilla character would get the job done for way less.

How are Tyberos and Asterion overpriced? One gives everyone +1S (Helloooooooo Scouts and Bikers!) And the other gives rerolls on charges (Helloooooooo Terminators and Vanguard!)

I haven't seen Lias or Vaylund, but Carab gives a cool Painboy benefit and Huron is literally the only AP-5 I've seen in a melee weapon. Which still has Ghost Razors, mind you.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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The part where I said everything about that list not being categorical, with words like "pretty" and "pretty regularly" and "so far" and "feeling"? That was the part where I didn't say those specific instances were overpriced.


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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
The part where I said everything about that list not being categorical, with words like "pretty" and "pretty regularly" and "so far" and "feeling"? That was the part where I didn't say those specific instances were overpriced.

Well, which ones are really overpriced? They pretty much all have neat wargear and do different things from the ones I saw. Well, except maybe the Arch centurion but I don't know what I'd do with him.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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 Crimson wrote:
I'm super annoyed that nothing can transport primaris marines.




You think you deserve to use your $150 starter set purchase with your existing tanks? No, you need to buy 110% more spacemariney new tanks for that at 110% relative new prices. It's the kinder, gentler GW.
   
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It's like the world designed this to tease me with everything except the stats of the Atrapos.
   
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Audustum wrote:
It's like the world designed this to tease me with everything except the stats of the Atrapos.




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 Verviedi wrote:
Audustum wrote:
It's like the world designed this to tease me with everything except the stats of the Atrapos.



Exalting doesn't seem to do anything but here you go x1000! Thank you!
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 buddha wrote:
Don't need the points or anything but do we have the SM spartan leaks? Love that tank and want to see how it came out in 8th.




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Has anyone seen the rules for quad mortars and vindicator laser destroyers yet?

 
   
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Ive seen the rules for the vindicator laser destroyer, but there doesnt seem to be rules for quad mortars.

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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Is the wound regeneration on the renegade knights just a chaos thing or do imperial knights get that too?

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The Atrapos had AutoSimulacra before, so Im sure thats just the Chaos version.

We will see in a week , though.

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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 BrotherGecko wrote:
Has anyone seen the rules for quad mortars and vindicator laser destroyers yet?


Quad Mortar Carriers seem limited to Heresy.
Vindicator has a Volley cannon. 2 shots, either lascannon fixed at 3 dam or overcharged S10 AP -5 6dam, 3 mortal wounds on an overheat.
   
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Just a though. Anyone else ever thought that a blackshield band from 30k could be the legion of the damned??

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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Has anyone seen the rules for quad mortars and vindicator laser destroyers yet?


Quad Mortar Carriers seem limited to Heresy.
Vindicator has a Volley cannon. 2 shots, either lascannon fixed at 3 dam or overcharged S10 AP -5 6dam, 3 mortal wounds on an overheat.

The Quad is a newer model and it's been hinted that the new IA was to come out shortly. My guess is that maybe they'll throw the rules in there?

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Does anyone know the best way to get in contact with forge world for a rules question? Is it just email?

None of the contemptor variants can take a cyclone missile launcher despite the part being sold. I'd like to get confirmation it's a mistake if possible.
   
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Anyone come across Valund Cal's rules yet?
   
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Median Trace wrote:
Anyone come across Valund Cal's rules yet?


Are you the same guy who constantly posted asking for that on 4chan?

If you head over I'll drop it in the thread.
   
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Well, which ones are really overpriced? They pretty much all have neat wargear and do different things from the ones I saw. Well, except maybe the Arch centurion but I don't know what I'd do with him.

Honestly, I just looked at any depth at the four astral claws ones enough to comment specifically:
Huron looks pretty nasty, not sure how much his signature claw is worth, bit IMHO it's pretty clear it has such a good AP is because anything less would make its invulnerable re-roll less relevant: a ton of 2+ have invulnerable saves so if it were AP 4, a 6+ would still be better than a re-roll 5+ inv. I'm not positive that, an improved heavy flamer, and orbital bombardment is worth 70 points or so. It might be, but I'd really need several games before I got a sense of its worth.

Sumatris (the captain) looks situational and his boosted offense (which is mostly what you're paying for) is highly dependent on number of opponent characters and to a lesser extent other light vehicles or heavy infantry- probably a little overpriced, this depends on how the meta around characters evolves, but if it isn't evenly high then he's probably not a good pick in an all-comers list for that high price.

Valthex (the tech) is paying a ton for +1 accuracy on the move (on a more predictable though not more powerful gun), mediocre melee weapons, and upgrading a weirdly narrow subset of bolters. It feels like the only justification for him would be building a bolter mob around him.

Comodus (the centurion... that isn't confusing) is just bizarrely priced: you get about the same offense as a captain with a power sword (situationally more, usually less), an equivalent buff in most circumstances, and a bunch worse defense, for a higher price.


...So, things felt high or overpriced. I haven't looked as closely at others, and haven't seen all options yet so can't comment in full.


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 Crimson wrote:
I'm super annoyed that nothing can transport primaris marines.


Primaris Space Marine Repulsor carries Primaris marines, but we have not seen their upcoming transport(s) yet!

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changemod wrote:
Median Trace wrote:
Anyone come across Valund Cal's rules yet?


Are you the same guy who constantly posted asking for that on 4chan?

If you head over I'll drop it in the thread.


That wasn't me. I did go through a ton of posts looking for it though.
   
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 Knockagh wrote:
Just a though. Anyone else ever thought that a blackshield band from 30k could be the legion of the damned??


not a chance, some of them may have become legionaries at a later date, but as a whole nope, it is an interesting theory though
   
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 krazynadechukr wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
I'm super annoyed that nothing can transport primaris marines.


Primaris Space Marine Repulsor carries Primaris marines, but we have not seen their upcoming transport(s) yet!
It's not so much that the tactical option isn't there, it's that a tank which should by all rights be able to transport Primaris cannot for purely marketing reasons. I understand the sales end of why GW is doing it but I think it's a bad move that damages community relations more than the potential profit is worth. After all, how many people who would not have bought a new Primaris transport will because of the rules restriction? I imagine most people who will buy a repulsor would have anyways even if Land Raiders could transport Primaris.

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