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Awesome news that, I am only really into specialist games nowadays !

 Toofast wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
If GW wanted to test the Epic waters, they could do one of those £40 boxed games - like Lost Patrol, Gorechosen etc - and have some knights with cardboard buildings.

If its really popular they can move into Epic with Armigers, dreadnoughts and tanks, or if not then at least the Knights and cardboard buildings would be compatible with AT.

If push comes to shove, then there is definitely a "travel edition" of Imperial Knights Renegade they could do. Maybe swap the Questoris for Cerastus knights and pushing the boat out, add a special weapons sprue for variety.

They have repeatedly said they have no plans to reproduce epic, AT is going to remain a game of titans. They might add xenos titans at some point in the future. It will never be epic and I'm perfectly happy with that. If I want tanks and infantry I just play 40k.

There is nothing at all stopping anyone from building from their titan collections and playing one of the previous Epic releases. The games rules and miniatures are already there, and they're bloody brilliant fun

I put this guide together in the Special Games section of the forum. I came at it initially form the same angle (didn't know Epic gaming was still about) and was really surprised how active the community is. Hopefully this is of some use! (Although do need to update it with some of the AT stuff)

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page

Why on earth did they decide to make the other weapons in resin? What the hell!

Very disappointed to have to pay premium price for weapons which will be warped and with mould slides lines everywhere....

 Toofast wrote:
They have repeatedly said they have no plans to reproduce epic, AT is going to remain a game of titans. They might add xenos titans at some point in the future. It will never be epic and I'm perfectly happy with that. If I want tanks and infantry I just play 40k.

The word you have omitted, which changes the context somewhat, is "currently",
each time it's brought up they say there are no current plans

That's great news about the success of the game. A larger specialist games studio can only mean good things!

Surprised bfg was already being discussed at all. I figured it would still be about four years away but it seems like it could be coming quite a bit sooner if Titanicus keeps raking in money.

Resin weapons does seem a little bit of a shame but I would rather they focus on getting new models made anyway

As ive said before I think actually going to epic now would be a mistake, partly because its a blackhole of development. No one will be happy until every 40k model is in epic, even though "new epic" would likely be a 30k only thing just for ease of creating it. During talks they mentioned titanicus suffered on its original launch because of epic and the demands of that game preventing them exploring titans as much as they could. Id love epic but id be fine with them leaving it for 2-3 years before doing it, alternatively id be fine with titanicus just expanding to vehicles.

Since both NM and BB have most of their upgrades and special characters in resin, I don't know why anyone would think that everything released for AT would be plastic.

I hazard to guess that a future Imperator titan model would be resin and not plastic.

Tavis75 wrote:
Mind you, that rule did strike me as a little bit of a bodge when I read the rules, as it's a bit of an exception to the mechanics, that you have to remember. Would have seemed to make more sense to make it a weapon trait "Rubbish against shields" (possibly with a catchier name), as then it would be listed on the weapon card along with other special rules for weapons making it easier to remember, plus it could also then be used to create unusual weapons that are high strength but which can't strip voids (can't think of an example mind).

Because then they'd need to add that special trait to every single light weapon that makes it into the game. Added a vehicle? All of the light weapons need to be labeled with the trait. Etc...

A blanket "Str 3 or less doesn't hurt shields" is future proofing the game. They can add stuff later on (particularly vehicles) that uses light weapons without having to make a note of it every single time.

 gorgon wrote:
Since both NM and BB have most of their upgrades and special characters in resin, I don't know why anyone would think that everything released for AT would be plastic.

Yeah but why bother making the second weapon sprue in plastic then? If they would make a third one it would make more sense, since quake cannons and gatling blasters are as common as volcano cannons and plasma guns.

I can definitely see less common weapons such as special close combat weapon and laser cutters being in resin, but staple weapons such as the quake cannon and gatling blaster ought really to be made of plastic too.

Budgets and time probably have a lot to do with it.

At this point, I care a lot less how the weapons are made available than that they be made available as soon as possible. If they're going to go resin and still dripfeed the results out every few months, I'll be pissed, but if going resin(with the associated increase in price and inconvenience) is the cost for getting all the remaining "mainstream"(ie, on existing weapon cards) armaments for the Reaver, Warlord, and Knights out early next year then fine, whatever.

I wonder if they destroyed the plastic BFG cruiser molds, the idea they're going to reCAD the main models means they're changing the scale and my existing fleet with be worthless.

The few games of BFG I got in were some of the most fun I've ever had with a GW game.

I mean, were the originals even made in CAD software? Pretty sure back in those days they were still using 3-ups and that huge mechanical contraption to carve the molds directly.

Changing the scale would be a mistake(unless it's to make it even smaller), BFG is about fleets not a couple of ships. That holds even more true if they set it during the Heresy.

 Pacific wrote:

 Toofast wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
If GW wanted to test the Epic waters, they could do one of those £40 boxed games - like Lost Patrol, Gorechosen etc - and have some knights with cardboard buildings.

If its really popular they can move into Epic with Armigers, dreadnoughts and tanks, or if not then at least the Knights and cardboard buildings would be compatible with AT.

If push comes to shove, then there is definitely a "travel edition" of Imperial Knights Renegade they could do. Maybe swap the Questoris for Cerastus knights and pushing the boat out, add a special weapons sprue for variety.

They have repeatedly said they have no plans to reproduce epic, AT is going to remain a game of titans. They might add xenos titans at some point in the future. It will never be epic and I'm perfectly happy with that. If I want tanks and infantry I just play 40k.

There is nothing at all stopping anyone from building from their titan collections and playing one of the previous Epic releases. The games rules and miniatures are already there, and they're bloody brilliant fun

I put this guide together in the Special Games section of the forum. I came at it initially form the same angle (didn't know Epic gaming was still about) and was really surprised how active the community is. Hopefully this is of some use! (Although do need to update it with some of the AT stuff)

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page

Thats decent of you to make that guide.

I used to have Space Marine 2nd edition and omg it was awesome. Two entire armies, loads of buildings and of course the Warlord Titan. My parents had gone on the advice of the GW customer services on the phone, which was "my son wants replacement parts for Space Crusade...oh...right...then do you have a similar game? I think its Warhammer 40K?" and the numpties said "yeah, no problem, it comes in a big box...and its in the post right now..." and instead we got Space Marine 2nd Edition...

Thankfully, they're more on the ball these days!

Personally I'm using Horizon Wars which isn't perfect but it is simple to learn and a lot of fun. The Hannibal tanks from Drop Zone look quite nice next to the AT Knights! Going forward, I now have 3 Questoris, 2 Cerastus and 2 Warhounds...so the next purchase might be a Reaver or the AT ruleset itself. Then again, I might just wait and see what they do when Titandeath finally drops in the new year...there could just be a big box with that name on it!

Or it could just be a silly hardback book on its Jack-Jones...

Yeah the BFG models were all done the traditional way. Most BFG stuff came out in 1999, around 7 years before they started using CAD.

 Fajita Fan wrote:
I wonder if they destroyed the plastic BFG cruiser molds, the idea they're going to reCAD the main models means they're changing the scale and my existing fleet with be worthless.

The few games of BFG I got in were some of the most fun I've ever had with a GW game.

I think they want some new (old?) designs. It's going to be Battlefleet: Heresy, mind you. And I hazard to guess that they would make new models modular in ways that the old ones weren't.

Not to continue flogging Epic on a Titanicus thread, but if anyone wants really cool minis of both infantry and vehicles to decorate bases, not only is there Vanguard Miniatures, but also Onslaught Minis makes absolutely awesome Sisters of Battle, Tau (including Kroot and Vespids) Chaos and Dark Eldar troops and vehicles. Seriously, the Tau especially are spot-on.

While most of those are not Heresy-era if you are keeping your Titans in that era, they are pretty cool for adding scale to make a Warlord or Reaver look truly huge.

I think a game of Epic Armageddon would look absolutely insanely incredible with a new titan or two on the board.

So looking ahead to Titandeath, it sounds like the most awesome battle in the 40K saga only second to the Emperor storming Horus' starbarge( or whatever it was ). Is anyone getting the novel on friday?

 Yodhrin wrote:
I mean, were the originals even made in CAD software? Pretty sure back in those days they were still using 3-ups and that huge mechanical contraption to carve the molds directly.

Changing the scale would be a mistake(unless it's to make it even smaller), BFG is about fleets not a couple of ships. That holds even more true if they set it during the Heresy.

They were most likely not done in autoCAD but I'm sure they'll change the scale to something bigger to A) make us buy all new stuff and B) make them bigger with more detail a la the new AT stuff.

And for those who don't like talk about Epic in the AT rumor/wishlist thread it's quite relevant as the two system are related and Epic stuff makes great basing material for titans.

It'd be tangentially relevant at best in an AT thread in Specialist Games. This is specifically the News And Rumours thread for Titanicus.

So it's for news and rumours about Titanicus, and any subsequent discussion generated from them.

Discussion about basing is probably best done in Painting And Modelling.

 Mysterio wrote:

Tavis75 wrote:
Was a little suprised to see that this months WD includes the rules for cerastus knights, basically a page containing images of the front and back of the card, with permission to photocopy.

This is the December WD?

Yep, the December issue that goes on release this Saturday.

Reaver now only needs carapace and variant weapons, so i can see resin for them.

Warlord, though, could do with one more plastic sprue. Quake cannon, gatling blaster, lucius alpha head, then maybe another new head and a couple carapace mount options.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Reaver now only needs carapace and variant weapons, so i can see resin for them.

Warlord, though, could do with one more plastic sprue. Quake cannon, gatling blaster, lucius alpha head, then maybe another new head and a couple carapace mount options.

Yep, that would be good, maybe with the gatling carapace weapons as well (though that's a lot of gatling if you're running it straight out of the box), as I think the gatling weapons would benefit from being plastic due to the thin barrels.

I can see a sprue having Paired turbo-lasers for the carapace and two Mori Quake Cannons with a Lucius-pattern head as a nod to the 3rd edtion era metal warlord.

And then, what, Paired Gatling Blasters with two Macro-Gatlings for an 'all the dice all the time' Warlord? Which leaves Paired Laser blasters and Vulcan Mega-Bolter Array left on the initial card selection.

On page 31 of the rulebook there is photo art of a Warlord with a Lucius-Alpha pattern head. But it seems to have the same colour scheme as a 40k scale Warlord on the FW website https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Lucius-Alpha-Pattern-Warlord-Titan-Head With the AT kits looking so much like there 40k counterparts its hard to tell them apart.

The battlescapes used as background for the rulebook pages are almost certainly all photos of the 40k models.

The colour plates aren't photographs, so don't necessarily exactly represent the miniatures; they'll have been done by the same people who did the colour plates for the Horus heresy "black books".

GoatboyBeta wrote:
On page 31 of the rulebook there is photo art of a Warlord with a Lucius-Alpha pattern head. But it seems to have the same colour scheme as a 40k scale Warlord on the FW website https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Lucius-Alpha-Pattern-Warlord-Titan-Head With the AT kits looking so much like there 40k counterparts its hard to tell them apart.

I think all of the artwork in the AT rulebook is created with the 28mm titans (not the game examples etc. obviously) as that creates better images, as good as the AT models are they don't have the level of detail of the full size titans and it's easier to photograph the larger models as well I would imagine.

There is another stream today.


From 4PM (GMT) today, we catch up with Andy Hoare as he discusses the background of Adeptus Titanicus on Warhammer Live, followed by an update with our Four Horus Heresy Warlords and a live battle report too.

If you're a Horus Heresy fan, don't miss this. Watch live for free: twitch.tv/warhammer

 Azreal13 wrote:
It'd be tangentially relevant at best in an AT thread in Specialist Games. This is specifically the News And Rumours thread for Titanicus.

So it's for news and rumours about Titanicus, and any subsequent discussion generated from them.

Discussion about basing is probably best done in Painting And Modelling.

No one in this thread has any inside sources or knowledge of GW rumors beyond what’s reported on Facebook, the community page, or any events. Let’s not pretend there’s any groundbreaking discussions that will be generated here. No one is going to get any scoops about new titans or rules before they’re announced; it’s pretty clear that GW itself was the source of rumors all these years and now they’ve moved into the open with their upcoming releases. The future of AT and its ecosystem are important to me (with $1k invested so far) and I’ve since moved to the camp who’d like to see an Epic reboot as way to grow AT.

You can ignore my posts any time you like but you do get bonus points for using the word “tangentially.”

 Fajita Fan wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
It'd be tangentially relevant at best in an AT thread in Specialist Games. This is specifically the News And Rumours thread for Titanicus.

So it's for news and rumours about Titanicus, and any subsequent discussion generated from them.

Discussion about basing is probably best done in Painting And Modelling.

No one in this thread has any inside sources or knowledge of GW rumors beyond what’s reported on Facebook, the community page, or any events. Let’s not pretend there’s any groundbreaking discussions that will be generated here. No one is going to get any scoops about new titans or rules before they’re announced; it’s pretty clear that GW itself was the source of rumors all these years and now they’ve moved into the open with their upcoming releases. The future of AT and its ecosystem are important to me (with $1k invested so far) and I’ve since moved to the camp who’d like to see an Epic reboot as way to grow AT.

You can ignore my posts any time you like but you do get bonus points for using the word “tangentially.”

To be fair the Epic discussion crops up about once a week on this thread. Far be it for me to object to what's being discussed (I don't like it when people do that), but really, it's the same thing over and over. I know you read this thread regularly. You must have read the same posts on
"Is Epic coming?"
"No I don't think so"
"Oh I think it's very likely cos...."
"Well ok, but when? Surely not for ages"
"Guys it's not happening, they need to focus on AT".

How many of these little discussions do you partake in? Are you not bored of them yet? (I am).