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Bit useless putting CCW on this. moves too slow to be of any real threat in the game. Easily out-manuvoure it with smaller titans picking it off from a distance.

Also, this now means some of the 3rd Party Vendors will make some CCW Weapons.

Move faster than Warlord with Reactor upgrade.

Melee weapons are not just for offense, it also deters knights and Titans from trying to charge it.

Love it. I can only hope that you can swap the weapons about with the plasma cannons that the previous Warmaster had.

My bet is that it'll be two separate boxes (much like the Reaver is now) but if we're lucky they'll sell the upgrade sprues separately (as they do with most weapons)

Maybe the next terrain set will be fortresses and bunkers, things that need torn apart.

drbored wrote:
Love it. I can only hope that you can swap the weapons about with the plasma cannons that the previous Warmaster had.

My bet is that it'll be two separate boxes (much like the Reaver is now) but if we're lucky they'll sell the upgrade sprues separately (as they do with most weapons)

Yeah, I assume this is the boxed set to come alongside the traitor book.

 Nurglitch wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Nurglitch wrote:
Some of these numbers are a tad odd:

The Article wrote:Yes, it is. Meet the Warmaster Iconoclast Heavy Battle Titan.At 100 tons of ruinous energy, the Iconoclast is all about barrelling into the enemy like a 40-metre mechanical bull, delivering devastating close-range attacks with a preposterous loadout of melee weaponry.

It's 40m tall and 100 tons? Shouldn't that be 1000 tons or something?

Yeah it should weigh a lot more. Maybe only 100 tons of it are filled with "ruinous energy" and the rest is filled with like "mild bemusement" or "passing irritation"?

Make those latin and they would make some great Titan names.

Ruinous Energy - Energy ruinam collium pugnantium
Mild Bemusement - Mitis perplexus
Passing Irritation - transeuntes Irritatio

Well, according to Google Translate, anyway - any actual Latin scholars can correct as necessary.

Of the three, I quite like Mitis Perplexus

MajorWesJanson wrote:Maybe the next terrain set will be fortresses and bunkers, things that need torn apart.

I'm down like James Brown for this!

MOAR TERRAIN FOR THE TERRAIN GOD!

 Dysartes wrote:

 Nurglitch wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Nurglitch wrote:
Some of these numbers are a tad odd:

The Article wrote:Yes, it is. Meet the Warmaster Iconoclast Heavy Battle Titan.At 100 tons of ruinous energy, the Iconoclast is all about barrelling into the enemy like a 40-metre mechanical bull, delivering devastating close-range attacks with a preposterous loadout of melee weaponry.

It's 40m tall and 100 tons? Shouldn't that be 1000 tons or something?

Yeah it should weigh a lot more. Maybe only 100 tons of it are filled with "ruinous energy" and the rest is filled with like "mild bemusement" or "passing irritation"?

Make those latin and they would make some great Titan names.

Ruinous Energy - Energy ruinam collium pugnantium
Mild Bemusement - Mitis perplexus
Passing Irritation - transeuntes Irritatio

Well, according to Google Translate, anyway - any actual Latin scholars can correct as necessary.

Of the three, I quite like Mitis Perplexus

Latinn scholar would probably tell you to capitalise, and maybe also ditch the you ie MITIS PERPLEXVS

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Nurglitch wrote:
Some of these numbers are a tad odd:

The Article wrote:Yes, it is. Meet the Warmaster Iconoclast Heavy Battle Titan.At 100 tons of ruinous energy, the Iconoclast is all about barrelling into the enemy like a 40-metre mechanical bull, delivering devastating close-range attacks with a preposterous loadout of melee weaponry.

It's 40m tall and 100 tons? Shouldn't that be 1000 tons or something?

Yeah it should weigh a lot more. Maybe only 100 tons of it are filled with "ruinous energy" and the rest is filled with like "mild bemusement" or "passing irritation"?

Maybe it’s just the grav-imploder that’s 100 tons? Or the chainsword with, for some reason, an integral billhook in case merely swinging twenty feet of whirring teeth at a building was somehow insufficient.

Honestly? Unless it's hollow, the only thing that could by itself be a hunner tons is the head.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Maybe the next terrain set will be fortresses and bunkers, things that need torn apart.

I love that idea. Would be an awesome way to start to expand the game into epic territory a bit.

A warhound titan is 410 tons, a reaver is 738, and even a baneblade is 316 tons

The new version of the Warmaster is totally OTT, and a bit silly (in a good way).

It seems clear that this is simply a new weapons sprue, and if GW holds to their pattern, it will be released several weeks after the new model.

 TheSecretSquig wrote:
Bit useless putting CCW on this. moves too slow to be of any real threat in the game. Easily out-manuvoure it with smaller titans picking it off from a distance.

Also, this now means some of the 3rd Party Vendors will make some CCW Weapons.

It's not useless, for one, unlike a warlord this thing mounts 5 weapons, so unlike a warlord with a ccw weapon, this thing only loses 1/5 of its slots instead of a third. It's shooting is often overkill for one target, so losing a plasma arm to take a ccw actually isn't the end of the world, especially when you can take shoulder plasma blasters that get +1 to hit and a carapace weapon.

I won't argue that close combat is the way to go in titanicus, but it's incredibly final given enough attacks or strength because it ignores shields and can target for free.


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Chopstick wrote:
Move faster than Warlord with Reactor upgrade.

Melee weapons are not just for offense, it also deters knights and Titans from trying to charge it.

Exactly, that's a lot of the reason to take one on a reaver or warlord, it screams stay the hell away or get punched/sliced.


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drbored wrote:
Love it. I can only hope that you can swap the weapons about with the plasma cannons that the previous Warmaster had.

My bet is that it'll be two separate boxes (much like the Reaver is now) but if we're lucky they'll sell the upgrade sprues separately (as they do with most weapons)

Not if we're lucky, if they're lucky. If not battle bling will eat their lunch and be right to do it.


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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Maybe the next terrain set will be fortresses and bunkers, things that need torn apart.

I'd love the next set to a be a ruined version of the civitas terrain that's backwards compatible, that's what the game needs, more ruins and destructible terrain.

Will it be a plastic kit or a FW resin upgrade?

 Malika2 wrote:
Will it be a plastic kit or a FW resin upgrade?

Almost certainly plastic, it's a bunch of new weapons, multiple new heads and a few new armour panels (upper arms), so looks like a sprue replacement. The FW stuff tends to be single weapons (or paired carapace weapons), rather than a whole bunch of different stuff (especially multiple head options). I guess the only exception is the Psi-Titan, but that's maybe a bit of a special case.

Fantastic miniature, but I'm not sure how useful it's going to be with 4 inch movement. That being said if you stock it in the middle of the board, it will kill everything when it dies.

 Plant wrote:
Fantastic miniature, but I'm not sure how useful it's going to be with 4 inch movement. That being said if you stock it in the middle of the board, it will kill everything when it dies.

isn't warbringer 5/7 and 2/3 turns? Faster than warlord(makes sense. it's smaller)

 Plant wrote:
Fantastic miniature, but I'm not sure how useful it's going to be with 4 inch movement. That being said if you stock it in the middle of the board, it will kill everything when it dies.

If you take Plasmatic Locomotors it's a 7" boosted movement, meaning it'll get most of the way across the board with full stride orders. That card also specifically mentions melee weapons, so it's pretty much written for this build. Some legios also have special rules to make titans even faster, and I'm confident the Traitor Legios book will have more.

Wonder if you can mix + match weapons between the two weapon sprues.

On the “just how effective is this lummox gonna be” is kind of important to the wider game.

After all, we like new Titans. Everyone likes new Titans, and if you don’t there’s no helping you, you wrong’un.

However, no new Titan should be an obvious replacement in terms of effectiveness compared to the others. So they’re almost always going to be a peculiar niche - something which might require the rest of the maniple to properly support them, as opposed to more general load outs.

Tavis75 wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
Will it be a plastic kit or a FW resin upgrade?

Almost certainly plastic, it's a bunch of new weapons, multiple new heads and a few new armour panels (upper arms), so looks like a sprue replacement. The FW stuff tends to be single weapons (or paired carapace weapons), rather than a whole bunch of different stuff (especially multiple head options). I guess the only exception is the Psi-Titan, but that's maybe a bit of a special case.

That's what you would think right? It's just the the details on the chainsword and that fist weapon look more akin to how FW's resin weapon upgrades are done. The detailing reminds me more of FW's latest Volkite Titan weapons rather than the plastic weapon kits.

 Malika2 wrote:

Tavis75 wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
Will it be a plastic kit or a FW resin upgrade?

Almost certainly plastic, it's a bunch of new weapons, multiple new heads and a few new armour panels (upper arms), so looks like a sprue replacement. The FW stuff tends to be single weapons (or paired carapace weapons), rather than a whole bunch of different stuff (especially multiple head options). I guess the only exception is the Psi-Titan, but that's maybe a bit of a special case.

That's what you would think right? It's just the the details on the chainsword and that fist weapon look more akin to how FW's resin weapon upgrades are done. The detailing reminds me more of FW's latest Volkite Titan weapons rather than the plastic weapon kits.

I can see your point about the details, but could be a resin\3D printed mock-up used in the photos. Basically everything that has changed comes from one sprue (weapons, tilt shields, upper arm armour, heads), it would seem a bit odd if FW decided to make a kit that replaced all the parts from one sprue but didn't change anything else. Of course, there's always the chance it was designed to be a sprue and got switched to resin but would still seem an odd release.

It’s described as a new Titan, which typically (Psi Titan being the current sole exception) means a plastic kit.

Of course, that sole exception does keep the question open.

With regards to plastic vs resin, its kinda weird to me how they haven't really done any plastic alt builds since basically the first wave of releases. They released the alt-warlord and alt-reaver in plastic, and since then its only been resin weapon upgrades, pretty disappointing since they said early on they would be releasing a variety of plastic weapon upgrades for the titans over time.

Well there is a pretty decent spread of plastic weapons for both Reaver and Warlord.

We might see them do a Necromunda in time and move resin weapons to a plastic sprue.

chaos0xomega wrote:
With regards to plastic vs resin, its kinda weird to me how they haven't really done any plastic alt builds since basically the first wave of releases. They released the alt-warlord and alt-reaver in plastic, and since then its only been resin weapon upgrades, pretty disappointing since they said early on they would be releasing a variety of plastic weapon upgrades for the titans over time.

As I understand each of the specialist games get allotted a given amount of plastic frames to use at a time, and anything that doesn't fit into that capacity must be done in resin. The Warbringer came alongside plastic terrain, then Cerastus knights a little later. All combined they use about the same mold capacity as a Warmaster. I believe that the alternative Warbringer weapons were originally intended to be done as a sprue, only for the studio to decide on assigning that capacity for something else since it would mostly be adding copies of reaver weapons we already have in plastic.

I'm now expecting that for corrupted titans we'll either see them done in resin much like the psi-titan, or they'll be held back to be released next year. To be fair, multiple plastic corrupted titans would make pretty good content for a new starter box and even a relaunch of the core game like they did with Blood Bowl.

Got bought a new Warmaster as a birthday gift, boy is it a monster! Going to be a real project putting the thing together, I can't wait.

Am only going to be using it as a 'counts as' Imperator Titan for Epic for the time being, so can absolutely guarantee it is going to kick ass

I'm absolutely getting one. There's no way I'm not getting at least one of everything. That being said, it took me a week to build and paint the last warmaster, so it's going to spend some time on the pile of shame.

It took you a week total?

I mean...did you paint it with a roller? That sounds like an appropriate duration just for the trim.

Finished my Warmaster in about two weeks of painting, but most of the alternate shoulder weapon options have been sat waiting on my desk ever since taunting me...

I love me some crushed fortifications in the morning, so bring on the big guy!

Grav imploder hints towards some kind of a beam weapon, eh? Wonder how that'll shape up. Maybe it hits harder depending on the Scale of the target?