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Holy crap that looks amazing.

The aquarium castles are a bit on the weird side, but everything else is fantastic. Love the space port/cargo stuff.

Whoa, those boards are awesome! I love the tiny spiky ball plants!

Those boards…

My God, it’s beautiful…

…also, is that the Planet Express office I spy?

You never cease to amaze us, Crablezworth. Great work as always.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I love the Adeptus Titanicus terrain.

No! Stop! Don't tempt me Frodo!!!

What was it that Isildur said again?

Zenithfleet wrote:Re: the weight of Titans ... I always assumed they had suspensors built into them. Those anti-gravity stud things that make objects lighter. Like the ones in Space Crusade that let your Marines with heavy weapons move as fast as the guys with bolters.

It would help to explain why Titans don't crash through the street and into the sewers every time they take a step.

 Sherrypie wrote:
Crablezworth, while your stuff is awesome, you need more craters for crushed buildings and dead titans

Dead titans yes, craters no, too much topography, already have problems with the train track and landing pads, agree it'd look cooler for pics but it plays cleaner to just pull stuff out of the titans way. I didn't see a little car when I moved a reaver and it almost fell over lol

But agreed on dead titans, got so many extra heads and armour, just need some more body parts.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Holy crap that looks amazing.

The aquarium castles are a bit on the weird side, but everything else is fantastic. Love the space port/cargo stuff.

Thanks guy, the aquarium castles are more needed los wise cuz of the warmasters being so huge compared to the other titans.


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 Oguhmek wrote:
Whoa, those boards are awesome! I love the tiny spiky ball plants!

Thanks, classic dollar store cacti


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 Gordy2000 wrote:
Those boards…

My God, it’s beautiful…

…also, is that the Planet Express office I spy?

Thanks for the kind words

It's definitely based on it, just did like a mechanicum forge version of it. I did to a slurm factory though




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SamusDrake wrote:
You never cease to amaze us, Crablezworth. Great work as always.

Aww thanks guy







Bringing it back to the iconoclast, I wonder if one of the ccw's has a different range than the other two, partly because of size, like the sword arm is pretty damn big, but also they mention the other weapon having a secondary build option around grav. So maybe all or some of it's cc will be longer than the usual 2 inches.

Well, lets just have hi-5s for now! LOL.

Rumour doing the rounds that Adeptus Titanicus will be getting the boot after next year. It was over on 4Chan, so it may or may not have any weight to it. It does resonate with my gut feeling that( at least this edition ) is being wrapped up but to what end I don't know. Is there a chance that Titanicus will give way to Battle Fleet Gothic or another game?

The next big release is of course Traitor Legios, along with the new Warmaster variant. Could see a Knight Force bundle with Acherons & Castigators thrown in, and I have a strong feeling that the Asterius will be handed over to Forgeworld.

A Knight Force bundle is all I can hope for right now as I can revise my traitor legio into a House with titan support. However, if they release a plastic Asterius kit with its own, revised rules( none of that stupid auxilary banner crap ) then I might be tempted back into the game with renewed enthusiasim...

SamusDrake wrote:
Well, lets just have hi-5s for now! LOL.

Rumour doing the rounds that Adeptus Titanicus will be getting the boot after next year. It was over on 4Chan, so it may or may not have any weight to it. It does resonate with my gut feeling that( at least this edition ) is being wrapped up but to what end I don't know. Is there a chance that Titanicus will give way to Battle Fleet Gothic or another game?

The next big release is of course Traitor Legios, along with the new Warmaster variant. Could see a Knight Force bundle with Acherons & Castigators thrown in, and I have a strong feeling that the Asterius will be handed over to Forgeworld.

A Knight Force bundle is all I can hope for right now as I can revise my traitor legio into a House with titan support. However, if they release a plastic Asterius kit with its own, revised rules( none of that stupid auxilary banner crap ) then I might be tempted back into the game with renewed enthusiasim...

I got my head bitten off on facebook for even entertaining the rumour. But ya, it is somewhat believeable, 16 months is a long time though, but that's just it, other than traitor book, corrupted knights/titans and asterius there isn't much on the horizion.

The Warbringer and Warmaster are both new Titan types. I'm sure GW has plenty of ideas for more stompy robots beyond what already exists.

Back in the day I did some random rough calcs on bearing pressures required to walk on some earth type surfaces. Happy for others to challenge, as I didn’t get anyone to really check my calcs

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/523743.page#5560971

For a war hound, a foot area of about 50sq.m is enough for it.to.walk on silt, which is pretty squishy.

According to wikipedia an abrams also.exerts a ground pressure of about 100kN/square.m, or about the carrying capacity of.silt, which seems reasonable as it's designed to move over soft ground.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_pressure

Apparently Abrams tracks have a contact area of about 13sq.m, so it’s ground pressure is in the same.order of magnitude as a war hound foot.

Allowing for dynamic impact while it runs, etc it.might need a bigger footprint to reduce the pressures sufficiently to match a relatively static HGV or tank.

I'm fine with AT ending. It's a complete game.

From a purely financial standpoint, I don't see GW "closing" the AT book while its still selling well.

I could see them doing a second edition though.

 Crablezworth wrote:

I got my head bitten off on facebook for even entertaining the rumour. But ya, it is somewhat believeable

I'd believe a 2nd edition or post-heresy xenos expansion rumour over the game being dropped altogether. AT has been incredibly successful and there's still a ton on untapped potential before they even consider Epic.

Plus, so much BS gets posted on 4chan that at best it's a great way to work out what's not going to happen

Sad, but believable. Game lines mature and there must be some diminishing returns as they release the more obscure titan types beyond the classic 3. Even if it is profitable the guys at the top will be thinking "can we make more profit from the same resources?" A second edition, now with Great Gargants? Or a new 'old' game like Battlefleet Gothic? Or is the developmental budget going to be funneled towards 'The Old World?'

 schoon wrote:
From a purely financial standpoint, I don't see GW "closing" the AT book while its still selling well.

I could see them doing a second edition though.

That’s when I can see Epic coming in.

Simplify the rules for the Titans and limit their number in a given force. Launch with an army frame (Marines, Rhinos, Land Raiders etc)

 xttz wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:

I got my head bitten off on facebook for even entertaining the rumour. But ya, it is somewhat believeable

I'd believe a 2nd edition or post-heresy xenos expansion rumour over the game being dropped altogether. AT has been incredibly successful and there's still a ton on untapped potential before they even consider Epic.

Plus, so much BS gets posted on 4chan that at best it's a great way to work out what's not going to happen

I thought that rumour set was mostly rubbished as fake - but we will see when the last two codex of the year are released- those rumours say Nids and Guard the other rumours say Custodes and GSC.

I'd be disappointed if they ended AT without adding in Xenos forces, unless they go into Epic, which would be great as they'd have the imperial/chaos titans and air assets for a good few factions already.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm fine with AT ending. It's a complete game.

Honestly, I usually can't really understand the need for continual releases on many games. If a game is done, there's no need for more stuff. There is also no need to toss it into the bin, you can keep it up as an evergreen line if there's interest. Many boardgames are like that, and it's a positive in my book.

There's nothing inherently wrong with a game coming to an end.

I mean, Blackstone Fortress reached the end of its product life. They released all the expansions they wanted and completed the story.

GW could just as easily do the same to any of its games.

 Albertorius wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm fine with AT ending. It's a complete game.

Honestly, I usually can't really understand the need for continual releases on many games. If a game is done, there's no need for more stuff. There is also no need to toss it into the bin, you can keep it up as an evergreen line if there's interest. Many boardgames are like that, and it's a positive in my book.

Not in the industry, but I've heard (mostly here) that its all about return on investment on the production side. Most of the sales come very shortly after release then falls as most of the interested people now have "enough", or at least are into slow unit by unit expansion, as does the attention as people then shift to the next cool attention grabbing thing. So spending shipping, packing, and labor effort on keeping an older game available with no new releases then just doesn't give the profit for a given investment as tossing out an expansion or a new game, and you've got fixed labor and real estate and such costs. I know Dreamforged posted on here where he was kinda caught in a cycle where he just couldn't quite bring in enough to do a new expansion, and eventually as the long tail kept sloping down, hit the point where he couldn't get enough up front for a new print run off the old one.

Not sure how board games avoid it, though. Possibly being mostly printed meaning lower fixed and minimum reorder costs or a larger total audience?

You're mixing GW with everyone else. GW's sales are weighted towards the release because GW has trained their customers for that. That's not the case for every other company, and in most cases release sales are higher but they don't peter out quite as fast, by a long shot.

I could see them ending AT and starting a new game built off the back of it. AT is basically early civil war era. We don't even have any Chaos Corruption.

I could see AT ending and a new titan game being birthed in a new age. They'd just port the Imperial titans over and start releasing Chaos Corrupted titans.

There's a huge wealth of chaos and xenos potential releases they could do to generate continued sales within the game. Meanwhile they can advance the storyline and the titans remain valid because they basically are semi-immortal warmachines.

I could also see the game stop releasing new stuff because there's no need and then be kept in stock.

There, complete game, no need to bin.

A "complete game" with one faction and only mirror matches? Okay...

changemod wrote:
A "complete game" with one faction and only mirror matches? Okay...

Right, that's never happened before.

changemod wrote:
A "complete game" with one faction and only mirror matches? Okay...

Yeah, imagine that. A game with identical sides (no list building, literally the same army every time), only one objective, fixed deployment, and fixed terrain. There’s no way that could possibly be popular.

Well they could release Eldar titans, Ork titans, Tyranid giant beasts and Necron Titans......just saying the Horus Hersey eras AT could be complete, but they could use the models alongside xenon releases. They could also release periodic house updates to keep the main system relevant while doing so. Revisit it all with a second edition in a few years time.

 Theophony wrote:
Well they could release Eldar titans, Ork titans, Tyranid giant beasts and Necron Titans......just saying the Horus Hersey eras AT could be complete, but they could use the models alongside xenon releases. They could also release periodic house updates to keep the main system relevant while doing so. Revisit it all with a second edition in a few years time.

"Could" and "need to" are two different things. They did, too, back in the day, as full on expansions.

changemod wrote:
A "complete game" with one faction and only mirror matches? Okay...

He's got us there. Checkmate indeed!

 Overread wrote:
I could see them ending AT and starting a new game built off the back of it. AT is basically early civil war era. We don't even have any Chaos Corruption.

I could see AT ending and a new titan game being birthed in a new age. They'd just port the Imperial titans over and start releasing Chaos Corrupted titans.

There's a huge wealth of chaos and xenos potential releases they could do to generate continued sales within the game. Meanwhile they can advance the storyline and the titans remain valid because they basically are semi-immortal warmachines.

We have no reason to think that they won’t release the two remaining ‘tweener Titans and at least one Corrupted Titan. They’ve already started laying the rules groundwork for Corrupted Titans. The 4chan rumors read like they come from someone who reads forum blather and isn’t
actually engaged with the game. And it’s 4chan.

I agree that it’s conceivable that AT: HH could be heading toward completion as a concept and that we could see AT:??, a new setting. My guess is that it’d be to include xenos and maybe a Scouring or Beast Arises setting.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm fine with AT ending. It's a complete game.

Yeah that's my thoughts for the most part assuming we get the traitor book and the corrupted titans and knights in the next 16 months.


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 schoon wrote:
From a purely financial standpoint, I don't see GW "closing" the AT book while its still selling well.

I could see them doing a second edition though.

Yeah it could just be an edition change or they release something else that still uses the miniatures like epic.


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 Albertorius wrote:

changemod wrote:
A "complete game" with one faction and only mirror matches? Okay...

Right, that's never happened before.

It's been a mirror match game for 3 years, and it's better for it tbh. It's also got one blessing, when gw releases utter crap weapons, everyone can immediately point out how bad they are (volkite).


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

changemod wrote:
A "complete game" with one faction and only mirror matches? Okay...

He's got us there. Checkmate indeed!

There are all knight lists so it's technically not even correct. Them being bad and no fun to play against or with is another matter entirely


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 gorgon wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I could see them ending AT and starting a new game built off the back of it. AT is basically early civil war era. We don't even have any Chaos Corruption.

I could see AT ending and a new titan game being birthed in a new age. They'd just port the Imperial titans over and start releasing Chaos Corrupted titans.

There's a huge wealth of chaos and xenos potential releases they could do to generate continued sales within the game. Meanwhile they can advance the storyline and the titans remain valid because they basically are semi-immortal warmachines.

We have no reason to think that they won’t release the two remaining ‘tweener Titans and at least one Corrupted Titan. They’ve already started laying the rules groundwork for Corrupted Titans. The 4chan rumors read like they come from someone who reads forum blather and isn’t
actually engaged with the game. And it’s 4chan.

I agree that it’s conceivable that AT: HH could be heading toward completion as a concept and that we could see AT:??, a new setting. My guess is that it’d be to include xenos and maybe a Scouring or Beast Arises setting.

I think the rumour is quite possible given what we know of what has yet to be released. So you got traitor book, corrupted titans and knights and possibly another titan, that's not exactly a dense 16 month release schedule. So ya, I could see it ending in dec 2022. To your point, that could just be the beginning of adding other factions and a new edition or somethin else.