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Cardiff

Ah that's the Neophyte Heavy points clarified to 70, then.

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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I'm loving the Harlequin rules. Here's hoping these give us a hint of whats coming in 8th ed. 4+ invuln. -2 to hit if you run. Those would make awesome army wide changes to the Quins.

   
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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Maybe Im just not exactly sure how things are supposed to work, but am I the only one that thinks CSM look weak compared to most of the other stuff?

I mean, they're basically slightly inferior slightly cheaper grey knights. 155 for a chaos marine with a bolter and mark (nurgle and tzeentch seem like the clear choices) vs 175 (well, technically 200 since you have to take a melee weapon) for a guy with storm bolter, stave, and hammerhand. Maybe give them all chainswords for some AP in melee, bumping them up to 180, still 20 cheaper for a model that's more durable but slightly less damage output. Seem about on par with each other. Although I don't know if GK are actually any good either, 5 models max seems a little risky, and investing a lot in melee weapons makes them even bigger targets (you can't even give swords to everyone if you have 4 models).
   
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RazorEdge wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/14/new-game-announced-at-gama-trade-show/



Breaking news from the Gama Trade Show, a brand new boxed game has just been announced – Shadow War: Armageddon.

Some of the Warhammer Community team are currently at the huge trade show in Las Vegas, and are showcasing some of the exciting new releases on the way over the next few months. The first of these is Shadow War: Armageddon.

Right now we don’t have a huge amount of detail on this set (though we will, very soon), but what we do know is that it is a squad-level game set in the Warhammer 40,000 universe. The specific setting is the hive cities of War Zone: Armageddon, and the two forces pitted against each other are Space Marines Scouts from the Blood Angels Chapter and ferocious Ork Boyz.

We think the idea of close-range combat amongst the sprawling ruins of Imperial industry sounds pretty ace.

We’ll have more news for you on this game, as well as other new releases, over the next several hours, so stay posted!

 Dez wrote:
Via GAMA:

Shadow War: Armageddon is the spiritual successor to Necromunda and due out VERY SOON. Comes in a MASSIVE (stressed a lot) box full of multilevel terrain, Space Marines, Orks and of course rules. The rules cover 16-17 different factions, so most/all 40k armies are covered.


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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/12/big-news-coming-this-week/

We’re only just into month 3 of 2017, and already we have had an absolutely awesome year of Warhammer.

In the Mortal Realms, we’ve seen a new faction introduced with the Disciples of Tzeentch, reinforcements for the Stormcast Eternals, and we’ve explored one of the new metropolises of the Free Peoples as the timeline of the Age of Sigmar marches on and new cities are founded. But the galaxy changing events happening in the 41st Millennium makes that looks practically pedestrian – we’ve already seen Cadia fall, a craftworld fracture, a god birthed, and a Primarch rise.


And we are not done yet, not by a long shot.

We promised 2017 was going to be an awesome year for both Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Age of Sigmar and we meant it.

Over the next few weeks, the Warhammer Community team will be attending several events around the world, and we’ll be showing off some of the incredible new releases coming in the next few months, as well as a few projects the studios have been working on.

You’ll see the first of these big reveals this week, right here on the Warhammer Community site, so keep your eyes peeled, and follow our Warhammer Age of Sigmar and Warhammer 40,000 Facebook pages so we can let you know when the news hits.

After that, there will be more news the following week, from the AdeptiCon event.

What’s it going to be?

It’s all very exciting, and we can’t wait to share it with you.



I may or may not be currently playing a campaign of Shadow Wars: Armageddon... before it's actually released...
   
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So can Tau get anything but pathfinders?
   
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 Draccan wrote:

So can Tau get anything but pathfinders?


Their special units are the Ethereal, the Fireblade, and the Shadow Suit.
   
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Mississippi

I'd like to run my Vostroyans as an all Veteran gang with carapace armor. No Juves, though I'd consider running some, and I've got special and heavy weapons in abundance as well.

I'm really excited to get my hands on the shadow war book and play a few rounds of 'not-necromunda' with both my Vostroyan Guard and my Blood Angels.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

You don't know me son, so I'll explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.  
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





I've been a mere bystander to 40K since literally the day after 8th edition came out, but looking at the Tyranid Warriors wargear section...

...a model can take three pairs of Scything Talons?

I was still active when the plastic flyrant kit came out, and the foot slot indirectly became a place where nids could stick their weapons, but this is still sort of new, no?

Fuel for the "sneak peek at 9th edition" theorists? Or did I miss something during my inactivity?


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 Red__Thirst wrote:
I'd like to run my Vostroyans as an all Veteran gang with carapace armor. No Juves, though I'd consider running some, and I've got special and heavy weapons in abundance as well.

I'm really excited to get my hands on the shadow war book and play a few rounds of 'not-necromunda' with both my Vostroyan Guard and my Blood Angels.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Before we all settle on the proper internet slang for this game (Not-cromunda and New-cromunda are legit contenders) I would like to submit my own variant, Ne40Kromunda.

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Man. I got to say, this game sure is giving me an excuse to take models out of the pile of shame and give them a fresh new lease on life. And maybe add a Skitari kill team. And a Harlequinn team... oh, my poor wallet.

Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far!  
   
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 Altruizine wrote:
I've been a mere bystander to 40K since literally the day after 8th edition came out, but looking at the Tyranid Warriors wargear section...

...a model can take three pairs of Scything Talons?

I was still active when the plastic flyrant kit came out, and the foot slot indirectly became a place where nids could stick their weapons, but this is still sort of new, no?

Fuel for the "sneak peek at 9th edition" theorists? Or did I miss something during my inactivity?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Red__Thirst wrote:
I'd like to run my Vostroyans as an all Veteran gang with carapace armor. No Juves, though I'd consider running some, and I've got special and heavy weapons in abundance as well.

I'm really excited to get my hands on the shadow war book and play a few rounds of 'not-necromunda' with both my Vostroyan Guard and my Blood Angels.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Before we all settle on the proper internet slang for this game (Not-cromunda and New-cromunda are legit contenders) I would like to submit my own variant, Ne40Kromunda.


Three pairs of scything talons apply to Ravener Special Operatives, which is their normal 40K trait, i.e. having three weapon slots.
   
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So in games like Necromunda or Frostgrave or other campaign based systems how do people generally deal with upgrading models between games?

If a model gets new armour or weapon do you just get a new model? Do you tear off their arm and replace it? Use magnets? Counts as?
   
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I have a feeling most old players who start this game likely have most varients covered in thier army. However for new armies be as close to wysiwyg as possible, things that upgrade try to look as close as possible and when it gets beyond looking remotely like it should upgrade your model. Magnets help! As always it's whatever your gaming group accepts. Most of the time proxies are ok if you can clearly tell everything apart.

   
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U.K.

anyone know how much set will cost in £?

3 SPRUUUUUEESSSS!!!!
JWBS wrote:

I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
 
   
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So I see the New Zealand preorders. I thought the individual terrain sets were going to be on preorder as well.
   
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I think the price dropped to £80.
Aussie price has dropped to $220, very tempting.
   
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So, out of curiosity (stay with me here...). What units are available for the Eldar formations in the Gathering Storm II book - are those also limited to plastic kits currently available for the Craftworld Eldar? I seem to recall mention of Wraithguard, Dire Avengers, Guardians, etc.

I'm not understanding the limitation on kits in SWA...I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that certain Eldar kits may be getting re-done or axed. Dire Avengers and upgraded Guardians don't make for an interesting Eldar force..at all.
   
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 rollawaythestone wrote:
I'm loving the Harlequin rules. Here's hoping these give us a hint of whats coming in 8th ed. 4+ invuln. -2 to hit if you run. Those would make awesome army wide changes to the Quins.


Even better would be the addition of Mimes as a cheaper, more basic unit, and Virtuosos as Heavy Weapon specialists. and a Great Harlequin HQ would make them a lot more flexible.

Hopefully if/when the move stat comes back, it is baselined at 6" like current, and not the 4" like most models here have. Unless they change how run works (no longer prevents shooting, but -1 to hit or less range when running)
   
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I don't know much about Eldar but would it be comparable to GSC getting only Neophytes and not Acolytes? the Wraithguard, like the Acolyte is in the SpecOps section of the download though.

Does a Save Mod. of -6 negate all armour even the Terminator 2D6?

   
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Some backwater sump

I think everyone's both 1) getting way too freaked out about their specific desired gang makeup not being immediately represented and 2) reading too much into these rules regarding 8th edition.

There's no reason to believe there won't be other versions of armies released. A new Eldar force of Black Guardians, say, or even a Tau Crisis Suit team. And if they're not, it seems pretty easy to make up your own with a little figuring. GW used to be a lot more DIY, and that's what the Inq28 thing is all about. It's your game, make it how you want.

And I don't think these rules will have anything to do with 8th edition. They're strictly 2nd, and I don't see GW going that direction with the main 40k game.

New Career Time? 
   
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 NobodyXY wrote:
I don't know much about Eldar but would it be comparable to GSC getting only Neophytes and not Acolytes? the Wraithguard, like the Acolyte is in the SpecOps section of the download though.

Does a Save Mod. of -6 negate all armour even the Terminator 2D6?


I believe Terminators would still get a 9+ save on 2D6.
   
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Canberra, Australia

guru wrote:
Available while stocks last and limited to 1 per order




This concerns me as it appears that this game was meant to push the new scenery pieces rather then create a new ongoing game (no new miniatures, only existing miniatures being flogged again) and there won't be any additional expansions except what appears in the White Dwarfs; in the similar vain of Gangs of Commorragh or Lost Patrol (hey more scout miniatures they're trying to get rid of).
   
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That's how GW does business now. If you expected more than that then you were just setting yourself up for disappointment.
   
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South Florida

All these boxed games have been nice because of the in-built savings, but they are also essentially making us buy models we probably wouldn't normally. I know I am definitely gonna get this box for the game and the terrain and will try and figure out what I want to do with the Orks and Space Marines. Regardless, I am not complaining. It seems like a win-win for the consumer and for Games Workshop. They can pass along a discount and push more models - and there is a chance that some purchasers will start collecting new armies because of the models they get from the box.

   
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If things are going elsewhere as they are going locally, I think GW is going to be shocked by how this game does.

It isn't that 40K players care, it is that people who generally think GW games are unplayable trash are lining up to get a chance to leaf through the rulebook.

It feels like GW's version of Infinity or Malifaux, and while the rules might be a little on the dodgy side, people have a soft spot for the IP and painting and converting on the skirmish level is an appealing itch to scratch.
   
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H.B.M.C. alluded to it best- GW, why do you go in with a great idea, only to run away from the ledge, and disappoint? ( or something to that effect. I can't find it.)

I mean, W.T.F. It's as if GFW doesn't want money....


Why exactly is it too much to ask to honestly have an open season game, you have the units, the models, the open ideas... GW takes it on themselves to gak all over the mother of all skirmish games, and the friggin game isn't even out yet.

WHY is it not open for anyone to just outright play what you want, and have a good time? With some of those so called, "Designers" I just want to give them a pair of cement shoes for Christmas, and call it a day.

Seriously, Dakka is going to have to open up a new slot for "Shadow war", and we can open up the throttle and actually open forum rewrite some of this gak and call it a day.
For some of you new guys, seriously THIS is what we have been waiting for over 15-20 + years, and we get a halfwit attempt. And for what it's worth, the gangs, so to speak, are weak sauce.
I can make up at least 10+ per army, just off the top of my head.....

Then this gak about "While supplies last..." WTF!@@@@@@!!!!!

We won't even let the golden goose come to full adult chicken-hood, we're going to gut it as a chick.

I have mine coming, but we're going to have to have a serious talk with these nubs from GW that continue to beat their head against the wall to stay in the kids table, as we continue to look at them as sport and laugh at their incompetence...



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Damn, already sold out in NZ. Hope this will last longer in Canada

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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039 
   
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Zatsuku wrote:
So in games like Necromunda or Frostgrave or other campaign based systems how do people generally deal with upgrading models between games?

If a model gets new armour or weapon do you just get a new model? Do you tear off their arm and replace it? Use magnets? Counts as?

It all depends on the level of your commitment.

1. You build new models, depending on how you want to use them in the future.

2. Blue tack weapons to the model, depending on how long you want to use them. ( It later comes to make new models for the established guys/ troops gangers.)

3. use another of the collection to change out for the upgrade.

4. Do nothing. Just use the gang roster, and some way of keeping track of your changes to weapon load outs. ( Some of my mates used the weapons as tokens, and used sticky spots on gangers, to coincide with the changes.

Any way works, as long as everyone is on board.



At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. 
   
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Canberra, Australia

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 sarduka42 wrote:
Damn that was fast. New Zealand already sold out!


And now Sold out in Australia!

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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

Sold out? That's pathetic.

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Well gak.

Guess I'm waiting for sets to appear on ebay.

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