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Personally I think the FW ones look a lot cooler, but I'll gladly use both.
People like FW ones?
They not only have bad proportions, they have buckethead helmet no human could see through without going chameleon-style cross-eyed. Just compare FW custode terminator head without helmet, the metal bit between lenses on helmet is so wide it would actually cover both eyes. 40K version is so superior in execution it's not even funny.
Ditto with bikes, 30K custodes bike looks like it was made from bent plasticard by someone who got bored halfway and didn't finish it, leaving gap where gun is looking like hole someone forgot to fill. 40K bike not only looks amazing, it makes whole of 30K custode vehicle range look obsolete, irrelevant, lazy, and not really fitting army theme...
And 40k ones are overblinged as usual. Gw really needs to learn more bling does not equal better model. Often opposite.
Personally I think the FW ones look a lot cooler, but I'll gladly use both.
People like FW ones?
They not only have bad proportions, they have buckethead helmet no human could see through without going chameleon-style cross-eyed. Just compare FW custode terminator head without helmet, the metal bit between lenses on helmet is so wide it would actually cover both eyes. 40K version is so superior in execution it's not even funny.
Ditto with bikes, 30K custodes bike looks like it was made from bent plasticard by someone who got bored halfway and didn't finish it, leaving gap where gun is looking like hole someone forgot to fill. 40K bike not only looks amazing, it makes whole of 30K custode vehicle range look obsolete, irrelevant, lazy, and not really fitting army theme...
And 40k ones are overblinged as usual. Gw really needs to learn more bling does not equal better model. Often opposite.
If your only concern is that their oversized helmet can't maybe have cameras and a HUD, I'm not really seeing the problem.
The bikes I will agree were terrible, that's why I converted my own, assuming Bullock pattern bikes weren't coming.
Are we seeing a third armor type on the custodes bikers? They have an arched hood behind the helmet and different shaped shoulder pads along with maybe no leg armor as the lower limbs look like leather boots with straps and cloth.
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Seems to be a lot of, for lack of a better word, hate for the custodes. Any background on that? I'm excited, and sad, they are getting a codex. I built a counts as grey knights custodes army in 6th edition using the Scribor Romans so will be cool to field them as a real army. However will be hard to resist the urge to build the army with all new models
Arachnofiend wrote: Well, there goes all of my excitement. Only a matter of time before the most garish army in the game gets its own codex, I guess...
I think it's funny how the "really, REALLY elite super soldiers better than Space Marines" used to be silver Grey Knights, but now it's all about "even MORE really, really super duper hardcore elite even better than those weak super elite Primaris guys" in ALL GOLD. With Stormcasts it feels like the Sun King's interior decorateur is running the current design team.
What'll be the next logical step up? An army of all Primarchs in DIAMOND armour?!
Not that those Termis look bad or anything, but the bling is getting crazy.
Custodians are long existing piece of 40k though outdating stormcasts and generally referred as pretyt darn good(which makes sense in that they were designed to be able to beat marines if need be. And now it seems like that's the ultimate purpose they had. To finish up last marines once they had annihilated each other near destruction).
Where's the finishing off marines background from? I'm not familiar with it
Personally I think the FW ones look a lot cooler, but I'll gladly use both.
People like FW ones?
They not only have bad proportions, they have buckethead helmet no human could see through without going chameleon-style cross-eyed. Just compare FW custode terminator head without helmet, the metal bit between lenses on helmet is so wide it would actually cover both eyes. 40K version is so superior in execution it's not even funny.
Ditto with bikes, 30K custodes bike looks like it was made from bent plasticard by someone who got bored halfway and didn't finish it, leaving gap where gun is looking like hole someone forgot to fill. 40K bike not only looks amazing, it makes whole of 30K custode vehicle range look obsolete, irrelevant, lazy, and not really fitting army theme...
And 40k ones are overblinged as usual. Gw really needs to learn more bling does not equal better model. Often opposite.
If your only concern is that their oversized helmet can't maybe have cameras and a HUD, I'm not really seeing the problem.
The bikes I will agree were terrible, that's why I converted my own, assuming Bullock pattern bikes weren't coming.
I thought power armour has auto-senses. not HUDs in helmets? Have they been screwing up the fluff again?
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A heads up display would be a display on the inside of a helmet. If we want to split hairs, the auto-senses would be the apparatus for gathering that information.
Ditto. I'm one of those people who spent years wishing GW would do two things:
Adeptus Mechanicus
Adeptus Custodes
And they did both.
They did a bit of Ad MEch - half assed it and gave up in favour of more Marines - Custodes will likely be the same
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changemod wrote: A heads up display would be a display on the inside of a helmet. If we want to split hairs, the auto-senses would be the apparatus for gathering that information.
If it has the apparatus for collecting, surely it has a display.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
Ditto. I'm one of those people who spent years wishing GW would do two things:
Adeptus Mechanicus
Adeptus Custodes
And they did both.
They did a bit of Ad MEch - half assed it and gave up in favour of more Marines - Custodes will likely be the same
Adeptus Mechanicus is not "half assed"; yeah they don't have transports but they have a good bunch of kits.
Given the sheer variety and numbers of the mechanicus war machine - yeah right. But your right it was better to make yet more Dark Angel models.
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Though it would have been cool if the other codex releases also would've been accompanied even by a single new character mini or something like that. Not really something necessarily needed, but would have been a nice gesture.
I dont know if anyone said it before, but these look actually like a fine starting point for a kickass Abbadon conversion. Not sure how much work is necessary to properly defile the armor, but size, top-knot, weapons... it looks like it just might work.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
MasterSlowPoke wrote: They've released one Dark Angel model from the year prior to the Admech codex to the current day.
Plus all the special DA Primaris boxes - and thats more than the other non Marine dexes got. They did not get a single new model between them last year.
Others have already reply to you, but, I can change my avatar if thats offends you?
Not really a question of offence but I must admit that when I read the text saying just wait for the other dex's it will come eventually combined with a avatar that is Dark Angel who already have a dex well it was a bit iriritating - so appologies for that.
Yep - they did not bother with transports - altough they arein the fluff, they didn't bother with proper Skiatarii HQs - again despite them being in the fluff. There is so much more they could have done but they didn't bother. So yep half assed.
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
MasterSlowPoke wrote: They've released one Dark Angel model from the year prior to the Admech codex to the current day.
Plus all the special DA Primaris boxes - and thats more than the other non Marine dexes got. They did not get a single new model between them last year.
Others have already reply to you, but, I can change my avatar if thats offends you?
Not really a question of offence but I must admit that when I read the text saying just wait for the other dex's it will come eventually combined with a avatar that is Dark Angel who already have a dex well it was a bit iriritating - so appologies for that.
Yep - they did not bother with transports - altough they arein the fluff, they didn't bother with proper Skiatarii HQs - again despite them being in the fluff. There is so much more they could have done but they didn't bother. So yep half assed.
Yeah, the lack of transports and a skitarrii HQ is a problem. In fact, they didn't release any new models. All they did was compile the two books into a single one, which is what they should have done to begin with.
I mean, would it have been so bad to have a drill transport or an ornithopter or something?
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MasterSlowPoke wrote: They've released one Dark Angel model from the year prior to the Admech codex to the current day.
Plus all the special DA Primaris boxes - and thats more than the other non Marine dexes got. They did not get a single new model between them last year.
Others have already reply to you, but, I can change my avatar if thats offends you?
Not really a question of offence but I must admit that when I read the text saying just wait for the other dex's it will come eventually combined with a avatar that is Dark Angel who already have a dex well it was a bit iriritating - so appologies for that.
Yep - they did not bother with transports - altough they arein the fluff, they didn't bother with proper Skiatarii HQs - again despite them being in the fluff. There is so much more they could have done but they didn't bother. So yep half assed.
Yeah, the lack of transports and a skitarrii HQ is a problem. In fact, they didn't release any new models. All they did was compile the two books into a single one, which is what they should have done to begin with.
I mean, would it have been so bad to have a drill transport or an ornithopter or something?
Exactly - which is all the more annoying when they "had" to make special Primaris boxes for both Blood Angels and Dark Angels as well as the Primaris boxes already made.
Also just like Custodes, Ad Mec already have some of these things covered by Forgeworld - but nope can't use them, again whilst Marines get to use "relic" war machines - cos Marines.
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
They have said that, in the Custodes reveal, you'll be able to use FW 30k only custodes stuff soon. Maybe in that book they'll add too Adeptus Mechanicus rules for the 30k stuff to use in 40k.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
Galas wrote: They have said that, in the Custodes reveal, you'll be able to use FW 30k only custodes stuff soon. Maybe in that book they'll add too Adeptus Mechanicus rules for the 30k stuff to use in 40k.
Fires of Cyraxis is the book that will let AdMech stuff be used in 40k.
MasterSlowPoke wrote: They've released one Dark Angel model from the year prior to the Admech codex to the current day.
Plus all the special DA Primaris boxes - and thats more than the other non Marine dexes got. They did not get a single new model between them last year.
Others have already reply to you, but, I can change my avatar if thats offends you?
Not really a question of offence but I must admit that when I read the text saying just wait for the other dex's it will come eventually combined with a avatar that is Dark Angel who already have a dex well it was a bit iriritating - so appologies for that.
Yep - they did not bother with transports - altough they arein the fluff, they didn't bother with proper Skiatarii HQs - again despite them being in the fluff. There is so much more they could have done but they didn't bother. So yep half assed.
Yeah, the lack of transports and a skitarrii HQ is a problem. In fact, they didn't release any new models. All they did was compile the two books into a single one, which is what they should have done to begin with.
I mean, would it have been so bad to have a drill transport or an ornithopter or something?
Exactly - which is all the more annoying when they "had" to make special Primaris boxes for both Blood Angels and Dark Angels as well as the Primaris boxes already made.
Also just like Custodes, Ad Mec already have some of these things covered by Forgeworld - but nope can't use them, again whilst Marines get to use "relic" war machines - cos Marines.
The 'special' Primaries boxes are just a tiny upgrade sprue in with the existing primaris stuff. They weren't done 'instead' of anything, except maybe 2 different tiny upgrade sprues.
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