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 skullking wrote:
Folks, folks...

There’s no point in arguing over whether the Diaz or plastic daemoettes are better. We just all need to agree that the batboy/lobster 2nd ed. (40k) one’s are the worst hands down.

Spoiler:

(Check out those muscle-beach bloodletters as well )

I enjoy running a bunch of daemonettes, so I have units of all 4 versions. I’m partial to the Realm of Chaos ones myself, but they make for a ragtag looking army when you combine all eras. And I use the old RoC keepers of secrets for fiends, because the look awesome, are the right size, and have 6 different variants.

I’m very interested to see what they put in this new set.

I prefer those to the current ones myself. They have a sort of charm to them.

 AduroT wrote:

 skullking wrote:
Folks, folks...

There’s no point in arguing over whether the Diaz or plastic daemoettes are better. We just all need to agree that the batboy/lobster 2nd ed. (40k) one’s are the worst hands down.

Spoiler:

(Check out those muscle-beach bloodletters as well )

I enjoy running a bunch of daemonettes, so I have units of all 4 versions. I’m partial to the Realm of Chaos ones myself, but they make for a ragtag looking army when you combine all eras. And I use the old RoC keepers of secrets for fiends, because the look awesome, are the right size, and have 6 different variants.

I’m very interested to see what they put in this new set.

I prefer those to the current ones myself. They have a sort of charm to them.

Might just be nostalgia, but me too. The poses on the current plastics are so terrible.

It's why I'm hoping for an additional new infantry type for the Slaanesh release (since they're not going to redo Daemonettes and a similar kit to stand in for them is the best we can hope for). Something more along the lines of Witch Elves than the awkward is it dancing or not we got now.

Isn't pretty/confusingly sexy daemonettes part of the reason Raging Heroes exist?

 skullking wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 skullking wrote:
Folks, folks...

There’s no point in arguing over whether the Diaz or plastic daemoettes are better. We just all need to agree that the batboy/lobster 2nd ed. (40k) one’s are the worst hands down.

Spoiler:

(Check out those muscle-beach bloodletters as well )

Much prefer the Bloodletters that came next (not the current wiry ones).

The fuzz-letters!? With their choppy axes. 3rd ed. (40k) lesser daemons really took some risks imo. The plague bearers were my least favorite,, but the horrors were the best.

Those horrors actually lived up to the name. I recall one which had another horror climbing out of it's mouth.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
The more I have thought about the beastherds release, the more it seems "lazy" compared to the others.

Is there anything new here or am I overthinking this one?

Is it just chaff until RoC? Combo kits? Slaanesh Beasts?

We do not know much about it yet, so too early to tell. Three endless spells at the least, plus a fleshed out allegiance with several sub factions consolidated into something more coherent.

Honestly at this stage just seeing the faction restored with a Battletome and cleaned up is a big thing. There are a lot of subfactions in AoS and until GW gives them proper full attention we've no idea if they will become part of another faction; become ignored; be upgraded to a full faction or get removed from the game entirely.

So even a release without a lot of new models is still a good thing for AoS - esp when it cuts down on multiple sub-mini factions and provides a good steady solid faction to play as.

Plus they get 3 personal Endless Spells to play with!

Also, a herdstone kit apparently.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
Isn't pretty/confusingly sexy daemonettes part of the reason Raging Heroes exist?

The thing is, they aren't 'confusingly' sexy. They miss the point just as much as GW ones, just in the other direction. GW are comically ugly, shambling zombies, RH are 12-year-old-wet-dream pinups with comical porn parade poses. There is nothing confusingly (rather, perfectly straightforward) alluring or alien about them, they aren't scary, you can pretty much sum them up as Baywatch: the army...

 Irbis wrote:

 sockwithaticket wrote:
Isn't pretty/confusingly sexy daemonettes part of the reason Raging Heroes exist?

The thing is, they aren't 'confusingly' sexy. They miss the point just as much as GW ones, just in the other direction. GW are comically ugly, shambling zombies, RH are 12-year-old-wet-dream pinups with comical porn parade poses. There is nothing confusingly (rather, perfectly straightforward) alluring or alien about them, they aren't scary, you can pretty much sum them up as Baywatch: the army...

That is the idea--to appeal to the opposite end of the GW models, not do Slaanesh as faithfully as possible

The point of the Raging Heroes minis I've seen seems to be to entice the owner to somehow figure out how to paint them one-handed while the other is . . . er . . . occupied.

They have some very good models. I have the Nun-Snipers as vindicares.

I mean, while there are clearly elements in there of a 'conventionally attractive' female human. There's enough otherworldly elements like the claws and hooves to put any attraction into the 'not sure how to feel about this' category for me. Different strokes for different folks (possibly not the best turn of phrase given the topic...). They're not massively different to the Diaznettes imo, which were the contemporary ones when I came into the hobby, so have always been the lens through which I viewed what daemonettes are meant to look like.

Admittedly I've chosen an example where the tits are somewhat covered.


They're obviously not going to replace the existing box, so all this is a bit moot I guess. There's a possibility, though, of getting something different via another kit. The Mortis Engine and Mortarch have female vampires who look quite different to other female vamps GW did in the past, the last one standing of which is Isabella von Carstein even if that's no longer what they call the model.

Problem is daemonettes are not meant to explicitly be female. They are a mix of male and female like slaanesh. In the newer kit some faces look more manish and others lean towards more female. Even in the trailer the daemonette's voice went oddly deep at a part of it.

Hell look at the iconic emperor's children artwork. He does not look attractive at all, slaanesh does mutations via someone's excess. Black Crusade notes if you like drinking wine slaanesh will give you multiple mouths, if a commissar enjoys executing people he will find his pistol has fused to his hand.

Well attractiviness is subjective, so you cannot say that someone is or is not!

(Sargasm)

It's also very subjective even for Slaanesh. For example his most favored son in Warhammer Fantasy was a blonde pretty boy after-all.

So there's clearly only one logical solution to this issue -

1) GW buys the rights to Alien

2) GW remodels Slaanesh in Alien style using all of the additional artwork produced that was never used for their creation

sockwithaticket wrote: Different strokes for different folks (possibly not the best turn of phrase given the topic...).

The most pleasurable turn of phrase though
Don't worry; any dark path starts with a single step, you'll get there.

Back to rumours.
From the art in the 8th codex and generals handbook, looks like the new KoS will be a big daemonette kind of idea. Not unlike how the new GUO is similar to the Forgeworld GUO.
Would be nice if the Masque got the Changeling treatment.

I really want the new KoS to be a big plastic version of this thing.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really want the new KoS to be a big plastic version of this thing.

I wouldn’t be opposed to that.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really want the new KoS to be a big plastic version of this thing.

A giant elf about to fall down a cliff? Not sure that's going to make a good miniature.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really want the new KoS to be a big plastic version of this thing.

I can get behind that.

Creature Caster's take on the Keeper was pretty cool, so GW has a high bar for me to cross if they want me to pick up a plastic one.

On the other hand I've got plastic versions of all the Greater Daemons so far and I don't really even want to play Tzeentch or Khorne so I guess I'm just a sucker?

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Creature Caster's takes on the Keeper are pretty cool, so GW has a high bar for me to cross if they want me to pick up a plastic one.

Fixed that for you But yea, same here. Some day I'd like to own several of the CC Kippers, I can't really see GeeDub making something that can compete with that for me. Spoiler: CC does some great booties, and I'm pretty solidly in the boobs or GTFO camp of Slaanesh worshipers (though the ostensibly male keeper from CC is pretty sweet too).

Obviously I'm also a member of the Diaznettes FTW entourage, though I'll say they are distinctly unpleasant to work with as actual minis. Flat, static metals with awkward arms as the only poseable part sucks, as nice as the sculpts are. I hate the 'nettes that replaced them but at least they're in plastic? Who am I kidding, I'd just use the TGG2 mantis chicks at this point.

Fiends really are the place where the Dub could surprise us / me, the big girl/boys/girlbois are handled by other companies and the plastic lesser daemons ain't leaving or can be subbed out with French resin.

- Salvage

 Geifer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really want the new KoS to be a big plastic version of this thing.

A giant elf about to fall down a cliff? Not sure that's going to make a good miniature.

I am pretty sure he was referring to the Bloodthirster dancing passionately with a dragon.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really want the new KoS to be a big plastic version of this thing.

A giant elf about to fall down a cliff? Not sure that's going to make a good miniature.

I am pretty sure he was referring to the Bloodthirster dancing passionately with a dragon.

Now that would make a good model.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I really want the new KoS to be a big plastic version of this thing.

Hell yeah.

I just hope it doesnt look anything like the FW one. What a boring miniature this one is.

I much prefer the weird distrubink look for slannesh than the cosplaying strippers one

I hope it looks like the one here:

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 ImAGeek wrote:
I hope it looks like the one here:

Spoiler:

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I wounder how many leds you need to get that effect.

That is just the heartburn from drinking too much Sister blood.

If you want daemonettes standin (but VERY NSFW), check there:

I wouldn't be opposed to sexy male Slaanesh demons. I know that the fantasy is for females to be the succubi, etc... but yeah.
At least the present daemonettes are very androginous.