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The more I look at them the less I like them. There's a definite insectoid feel to them that just doesn't it the faction.

WUWU wrote:


but wow, these are maybe the lamest range of models to come out in... I don't even know. Terrible. Not just GW, but of anyone that has ever produced models in the past decade or two

Because raging internet hyperbole makes everything better.

Upon some consideration, the paintjob is doing those models no favours. If you're going to do bone golems, do bone golems.

I love them. All of them.

A nice enough addition to any undead collection, and sensing a Doug McClure movie vibe here. Just missing a silly, screeching monster!

Probably a pack of Stalkers on a quiet month...

They’re not Skeletons in bone armour.

They’re constructs. Bodies made of what’s pretty much AoS Wraithbone.

From otherwise unsubstantiated reddit rumors, the mortarch and the retinue have united statline, and to kill him, you have to fight through the bodyguards (different statlines at different wound levels), so probably a reverse of most wound-tracks, where the model gets stronger the more it's hurt.

The Mortarch with retinue looks great, the rest not so much.

What's with the dumb, fixed grins? Most of the models come across as goofy, when they were probably intended to look malevolent. I'm just not feeling it.

And since when did bone become a plastic material you could manipulate into any shape or form? These dudes aren't proper undead, they're just golems which happens to have been manufactured, somehow, from bones. And the bones have such unreasonable forms and sizes to make them indecipherable as bones. For the most part they mimic the exoskeletons of insects and crustaceans, but we all know these are made from chitin and not bones, which are mostly calcium.

Why bones in particular? Why not wood or clay or any other commonplace material? What about using the clay soil from a cemetery?

With the whole Asian thing, why couldn't they've made terracotta soldier type golems in stead of this, which in my opinion doesn't succeed in either being "undead" or "golems".

I don't like the standard dudes and riders. Maybe it's the paintjob, the black stone/ivory/obsidian leader dude on the Mortarch's base with red armour looks a lot better. I like the three headed constructs. I love the death-apult and I love, love, LOVE the I-can't-believe-it's-not-an-evil-Avatar-of-Khaine Mortarch. And the monster horsies - minus the riders.

Wow, there's an awful lot of wrong opinions in this thread. Personally I love them. I especially like that Wayne Barlowe is an obvious influence.

I'm not sure I'm sold on them generally, but the Mortarch is genuinely excellent as a model. I think there's a lot of modelling opportunities there too.

 Zingraff wrote:

Why bones in particular? Why not wood or clay or any other commonplace material? What about using the clay soil from a cemetery?

Lorewise? Because Nagash is lord of undeath, and i imagine finds shapeshifting dead bone easier than shapeshifting things like dirt or trees. That, and being Shyish bones are more readily available, just pop to your nearest Mortuary Factory for some

Designwise, because it's an undead army, they have to fit at least somehow with the rest and mutated bone fits that better than terracotta.

It's the big goofy cartoon grins that the troops have that put me off.

Cronch wrote:
From otherwise unsubstantiated reddit rumors, the mortarch and the retinue have united statline, and to kill him, you have to fight through the bodyguards (different statlines at different wound levels), so probably a reverse of most wound-tracks, where the model gets stronger the more it's hurt.

This was discussed on Warhammer weekly by Vince who was at the seminar. It is definitely accurate. I like the notion that the Mortarch will only deign to fight when his opponent has shown thier worth.

I actually kinda hope that those Stalkers would be available in other Legions.

And I am quite sure that there is going to be some archer in some form.

The New Hotness TM.

The cavalry are excellent as is the big boss guy.
But those grins on the other models. Yikes, not feeling those =/

I shall refer to the Ossifactor Bonereapers as OBo. See how they like that!

Going to be difficult to resist getting in on these models. Gah...so much unpainted stuff and I have been hoping they would release a Death army with an aesthetic I liked.

 Zingraff wrote:
The Mortarch with retinue looks great, the rest not so much.

What's with the dumb, fixed grins? Most of the models come across as goofy, when they were probably intended to look malevolent. I'm just not feeling it.

And since when did bone become a plastic material you could manipulate into any shape or form? These dudes aren't proper undead, they're just golems which happens to have been manufactured, somehow, from bones. And the bones have such unreasonable forms and sizes to make them indecipherable as bones. For the most part they mimic the exoskeletons of insects and crustaceans, but we all know these are made from chitin and not bones, which are mostly calcium.

Why bones in particular? Why not wood or clay or any other commonplace material? What about using the clay soil from a cemetery?

With the whole Asian thing, why couldn't they've made terracotta soldier type golems in stead of this, which in my opinion doesn't succeed in either being "undead" or "golems".

With the way they are designed if you just painted them a reddish terracotta colour they'd be terracotta warriors.
I think bones because its a DEATH faction and it sort of fits their theme more than clay.

If peeps aren't keen on the Aesthetic, one can always convert up from Stormcast, and possibly Chaos Warriors.

Chikout wrote:

Cronch wrote:
From otherwise unsubstantiated reddit rumors, the mortarch and the retinue have united statline, and to kill him, you have to fight through the bodyguards (different statlines at different wound levels), so probably a reverse of most wound-tracks, where the model gets stronger the more it's hurt.

This was discussed on Warhammer weekly by Vince who was at the seminar. It is definitely accurate. I like the notion that the Mortarch will only deign to fight when his opponent has shown thier worth.

So what happens when opponents do the sensible thing and drop arrows/bombs/Gatling lasers on the group rather than nutty serial challenges? Does he not fight?

(Though odds are the game ignores that sort of fluff)

Voss wrote:

Chikout wrote:

Cronch wrote:
From otherwise unsubstantiated reddit rumors, the mortarch and the retinue have united statline, and to kill him, you have to fight through the bodyguards (different statlines at different wound levels), so probably a reverse of most wound-tracks, where the model gets stronger the more it's hurt.

This was discussed on Warhammer weekly by Vince who was at the seminar. It is definitely accurate. I like the notion that the Mortarch will only deign to fight when his opponent has shown thier worth.

So what happens when opponents do the sensible thing and drop arrows/bombs/Gatling lasers on the group rather than nutty serial challenges? Does he not fight?

(Though odds are the game ignores that sort of fluff)

Pretty sure that, being bodyguards, the idea is that they step in front of any harm intended for the big guy until they’re all … well, not dead dead, but certainly immobile.
Anyway, given that he’s got a variable stat line like most monsters (and 40k vehicles if you’re more familiar with them) only a few of his stats will change, probably his number of attacks and hit/damage chance.

I wasn't expecting much considering the precedents, so not too surprised that most models are quite off-putting. But I like the catapult. Overall it has that cartoony chuncky model esthetic GW seems so fond of nowadays. Some good concepts and artwork wrecked by clumsy execution (just like ID, for example).
Can't complain though, it's a good thing GW keeps me away from their models. There are too many companies out there already producing outstanding stuff.

I welcome the Lord Nagash's new Bonecast, that will teach Sigmar that he shouldn't keep stealing all those tasty souls

I like the bone part of the Bonereapers, but it's their equipment that's putting me off ( weird toyish armor plates mostly ). So, none for me thanks.
Shrike looks goofy to me and the banshee dull... Dayum what's going on GW ?
Sisters are looking good, sharp and dynamic. It's not my kind of stuff though. Exept the repentia, if the overpricing is reasonable, i might buy a box.

Sorry for not being hyped and not wanting to "BUY EVERYTHING !!!!! OMG OMG OMG" ... but honestly the most disappointing reveal in like, a decade for me.

Not a fan yet. Though like most things once we see other angles and different paint schemes it might change. Looks to warmahordes/machine to me, and I’m just not a fan of that aesthetic.

They seem pretty appropriate for Age of Sigmar to me, very He-Man which is what I thought they were going for with their over the top aesthetics. Not my bag, but I think they are consistent with the saturday morning cartoon over the top fantasy look of AoS.

These guys do nothing for me. I don't think it's just the paint job, but I'd like to see a different take on them. Maybe that'll improve the army enough that I take more of an interest.

The large infantry and catapult seem to look decent, though.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's the big goofy cartoon grins that the troops have that put me off.

That's the first thing about them that I noticed and I think it may have tainted my perception of the range for good.

Despite a general AoS antipathy some of the stuff released for undead has been really cool..

These get the hardest of hard passes from me.


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 sockwithaticket wrote:
Despite a general AoS antipathy some of the stuff released for undead has been really cool..

These get the hardest of hard passes from me.

The only feature I like are some the skull headed birds, will look for those on bits sites in due course.

 Overread wrote:

 Zingraff wrote:
... What about using the clay soil from a cemetery?

With the whole Asian thing, why couldn't they've made terracotta soldier type golems in stead of this, which in my opinion doesn't succeed in either being "undead" or "golems".

With the way they are designed if you just painted them a reddish terracotta colour they'd be terracotta warriors.
I think bones because its a DEATH faction and it sort of fits their theme more than clay.

Here's the thing, the soil of most cemeteries which have been in use for some time, has at some point been decomposed bodies. Even the bones from the bodies buried there will become soil within a couple of decades.

This is particularly noticeable in the churchyards surrounding medieval churches. The church will appear as if it has sunken into the ground, sometimes sitting in a hollow surrounded by mounds of dirt. When the church was constructed maybe 900 years ago, it was built on the summit of a hill, but the centuries of burying thousands of people raise the ground considerably.

In a way, all this dirt is dead people, tens of thousands of them. Excavating a cemetery and kneading the dirt into a clay, you have a material which is as much infused with the souls of the dead as any bone, if not more so, seeing how one bone = one person, while an equal amount of cemetery soil is a concentration of corpses. If anything clay from a cemetery is MORE DEATH than any single bone.

JSG wrote:
Wow, there's an awful lot of wrong opinions in this thread.

LOLWUT?

With a different paint palette and a few less maniacal grins, could be pretty good!

Definitely fits the whole AoS setting too.