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Guys, skulls are clearly for organised military or religious outfits, not random ship crews. Replacing broken skull iconography requires a steady supply chain and logistics.

PS: Sooo eager to get that box. GW is killing my wallet. I hope it joins the paradise of Nurgle in the warp.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Davor wrote:
Can someone explain to me what Kill Teams is. Memory is fading and I can't remember. Is this the expansion of Shadow Wars Armageddon or is it something totally different?

Kill Team used to be a minor expansion for 40k (white dwarf exclusive at first, then there was a boxed set for 7e) that catered for extremely small scale (a single squad or so) games by altering the base rules and army comp. slightly but was just 40k. The new version out soon is the same squad-level combat as far as anyone knows, but is using its own rules, it’s own army lists, and (hypothetically) it’s own campaign system for linked games.
No-one has any actual details at this time though, apart from the fact that Rogue Traders are apparently one of the factions, and that there are d10 dice involved somehow.

Ackshoolee, KT was originally a minigame designed around asymmetrical scenarios where one player took on the role of the titular Kill Team and the other controlled a much larger group of mook enemies who started out largely "dormant" until the KT player triggered an alarm or a sentry. They later appropriated the name for the fairly pish 40K "skirmish mode" rules. This new version seems different again, something more like the fan Inquisimunda system perhaps? But yeah as you say we don't really know any specifics.

 Binabik15 wrote:
Guys, skulls are clearly for organised military or religious outfits, not random ship crews. Replacing broken skull iconography requires a steady supply chain and logistics.

You joke, but I actually did a whole Dark Heresy campaign based on that concept - Ephyra, a world with a rigid cast system where roles are enforced by an implant that deadens all joy, hope, and dopamine responses unless someone is performing their assigned work essentially addicting them to it, the main export being servitors and servo-skulls, but as shipments of prisoners to use as source material declined and the Mechanicus refused to expand access to vat growth tech, many of the guilds began turning to "Flenser" gangs, lunatic outcast meat processing workers or unemployed guild workers driven insane by first being compelled by their implants to carry on their work and then by the horror of realisation as the implant allows them to feel again and they have to carve up unwilling victims abducted from low-hive communities.

I was quite proud of that one, at one stage I very nearly managed to make one of my players puke

Thanks guys for the help.

zamerion wrote:
From faeit.
Confirmation that rogue trader is expansion of kill team

Spoiler:

Trying to learn what Kill Teams is I went to Faeit site and I don't see him anywhere say it's an expansion. So I am puzzled what Zamerion means confirmation of an expansion. If this is an expansion does this mean we need to buy something else? That is why I asked if it was Shadow Wars Armageddon. Since it's not, I am still puzzled. Is it something new or an expansion to something else?

KILL TEAM is a standalone 40K 'skirmish' scale game.

ROGUE TRADER is an expansion for KILL TEAM.

Davor wrote:
Trying to learn what Kill Teams is I went to Faeit site and I don't see him anywhere say it's an expansion. So I am puzzled what Zamerion means confirmation of an expansion. If this is an expansion does this mean we need to buy something else? That is why I asked if it was Shadow Wars Armageddon. Since it's not, I am still puzzled. Is it something new or an expansion to something else?

Still somewhat speculative because details haven't been forthcoming yet. The theory is that there's a "core system" for Kill Team that draws from the existing 40k armies and model ranges. Then there's Rogue Trader as an "expansion" that introduces new models and ranges; mainly the eponymous "Rogue Trader" group. Likely they would later be added to 40k in an Agents of the Imperium-style, but since that Codex is no where on the horizon it seems proper to call it a "Kill Team" expansion.

More confirmation (or denial) coming as the release draws closer.

It still is bizarre to me that we somehow know more about the expansion to Kill Team that is coming out next quarter than the actual game which is coming out in three or four weeks. Either way, I'm looking forward to both!

From the cover of what is presumably Kill team with the quote from the genestealer revolutionary, doesn't look like those new models are going to be part of the Kill Team release but as an add on to the army coinciding with it.

Last few boxes have had all the new models in the artwork, but these just look like the two basic sets to me.Unless they've trimmed off the two leaders who would otherwise be framing the picture - though that seems unlikely to me.

 Sabotage! wrote:
It still is bizarre to me that we somehow know more about the expansion to Kill Team that is coming out next quarter than the actual game which is coming out in three or four weeks. Either way, I'm looking forward to both!

Really? How are you seeing that? We've had a video showing different kill zones, rules and new terrain. The RT video showed new models and the board

Rogue trader has been confirmed to be a KT expansion a while back, by GW itself I believe.

In any case, the new art is GSC vs. Skitarii. The video heavily featured these two factions (or more precisely the basic infantry kit of each one of them), so a box with GSC neophyte + Skitarii rangers + some new terrain seems like a likely starter box, more than ever.
I sure hope they'll release the rulebook by itself. Given that Shadespire, Necromunda, and Bloodbowl still don't have separate rulebooks, there's a risk we'll have to buy the box. But it might not be a specialist game (didn't see any info on that), and might be seen as a good way to have people start playing with a minimal investment (as a single infantry kit will probably be enough to start), so there's hope.

Any links to the transcripted rules from the teaser video?

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
It still is bizarre to me that we somehow know more about the expansion to Kill Team that is coming out next quarter than the actual game which is coming out in three or four weeks. Either way, I'm looking forward to both!

Really? How are you seeing that? We've had a video showing different kill zones, rules and new terrain. The RT video showed new models and the board

The content of the RT box is know. It's all you see in the video.
The content of the KT box is however still a mystery. And we have no idea if a rulebook or terrain will be available separately.

He mean we still didn't know what is actually in the Kill team box. There are no new models in the trailer, and then there're expansion with new model, and then more new models.

fresus wrote:
I sure hope they'll release the rulebook by itself. Given that Shadespire, Necromunda, and Bloodbowl still don't have separate rulebooks, there's a risk we'll have to buy the box.

The Shadespire rules are a free PDF download from Games Workshop on the Warhammer Underworlds website:

https://warhammerunderworlds.com/

I have a hazy memory that a couple of months ago from a White Dwarf letters page. Someone wrote a letter reminiscing about Inquisitor style games and asking if we'll ever see anything like it again which was replied with a "maybe one day, who knows?". From what it we're seeing of Kill Team: Rogue Trader, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a future Inquismunda book.

40K 8th Edition for mass battles --》Kill Team for skirmish --》Rogue Trader for detailed narrative scenarios?

 Haighus wrote:
That Ork also looks to have a riot shield...?

It’s his Choppa. Zoom in and you can tell.

Ancient Otter wrote:
replied with a "maybe one day, who knows?"

Well, they gave the same reply to the question if Brettonians would ever come back, so I wouldn’t read too much into it...

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
That Ork also looks to have a riot shield...?

It’s his Choppa. Zoom in and you can tell.

So it is. There is an optical illusion of the helmet combined with the axe blade.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Davor wrote:
Can someone explain to me what Kill Teams is. Memory is fading and I can't remember. Is this the expansion of Shadow Wars Armageddon or is it something totally different?

Kill Team used to be a minor expansion for 40k (white dwarf exclusive at first, then there was a boxed set for 7e) that catered for extremely small scale (a single squad or so) games by altering the base rules and army comp. slightly but was just 40k. The new version out soon is the same squad-level combat as far as anyone knows, but is using its own rules, it’s own army lists, and (hypothetically) it’s own campaign system for linked games.
No-one has any actual details at this time though, apart from the fact that Rogue Traders are apparently one of the factions, and that there are d10 dice involved somehow.

Ackshoolee, KT was originally a minigame designed around asymmetrical scenarios where one player took on the role of the titular Kill Team and the other controlled a much larger group of mook enemies who started out largely "dormant" until the KT player triggered an alarm or a sentry. They later appropriated the name for the fairly pish 40K "skirmish mode" rules. This new version seems different again, something more like the fan Inquisimunda system perhaps? But yeah as you say we don't really know any specifics.

 Binabik15 wrote:
Guys, skulls are clearly for organised military or religious outfits, not random ship crews. Replacing broken skull iconography requires a steady supply chain and logistics.

You joke, but I actually did a whole Dark Heresy campaign based on that concept - Ephyra, a world with a rigid cast system where roles are enforced by an implant that deadens all joy, hope, and dopamine responses unless someone is performing their assigned work essentially addicting them to it, the main export being servitors and servo-skulls, but as shipments of prisoners to use as source material declined and the Mechanicus refused to expand access to vat growth tech, many of the guilds began turning to "Flenser" gangs, lunatic outcast meat processing workers or unemployed guild workers driven insane by first being compelled by their implants to carry on their work and then by the horror of realisation as the implant allows them to feel again and they have to carve up unwilling victims abducted from low-hive communities.

I was quite proud of that one, at one stage I very nearly managed to make one of my players puke

Sounds like half the neurosurgeons I've assisted so far

Seems like a cool campaign.

 Mysterio wrote:
KILL TEAM is a standalone 40K 'skirmish' scale game.

ROGUE TRADER is an expansion for KILL TEAM.

I don’t get it.

JSG wrote:

 Mysterio wrote:
KILL TEAM is a standalone 40K 'skirmish' scale game.

ROGUE TRADER is an expansion for KILL TEAM.

I don’t get it.

Kill Team is a game. Rogue Trader is an expansion to that game. Rogue Trader will possibly add various rules and/or factions to Kill Team.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

JSG wrote:

 Mysterio wrote:
KILL TEAM is a standalone 40K 'skirmish' scale game.

ROGUE TRADER is an expansion for KILL TEAM.

I don’t get it.

Kill Team is a game. Rogue Trader is an expansion to that game. Rogue Trader will possibly add various rules and/or factions to Kill Team.

I was joking.

JSG wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

JSG wrote:

 Mysterio wrote:
KILL TEAM is a standalone 40K 'skirmish' scale game.

ROGUE TRADER is an expansion for KILL TEAM.

I don’t get it.

Kill Team is a game. Rogue Trader is an expansion to that game. Rogue Trader will possibly add various rules and/or factions to Kill Team.

I was joking.

Glad to hear it. Most folks add a /s to the end of their posts for sarcasm. Sometimes hard to tell through text.

 Ghaz wrote:

fresus wrote:
I sure hope they'll release the rulebook by itself. Given that Shadespire, Necromunda, and Bloodbowl still don't have separate rulebooks, there's a risk we'll have to buy the box.

The Shadespire rules are a free PDF download from Games Workshop on the Warhammer Underworlds website:

https://warhammerunderworlds.com/

And Blood Bowl's core rules are available as an e-pub for $10 USD.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Blood-Bowl-The-Rules-ePub-2017

I think the character on the left of the rulebook is the same as the miniature in the upper right of the photo.





http://mezmaronslair.blogspot.com/

Mez

It's the box cover for that expansion......

Chopstick wrote:
It's the box cover for that expansion......

Seems to be a picture of the cover of a rulebook or some sort of booklet actually, but the box would probably have the same or similar art to this.

 Mezmaron wrote:
I think the character on the left of the rulebook is the same as the miniature in the upper right of the photo.





http://mezmaronslair.blogspot.com/

Mez

Yeah, I think all characters and creatures on that cover can be found among the miniatures in that photo/video.

The Skitarii counterpart pic to yesterday’s genestealer hybrids, from FB.

Anyone know which forgeworld that colour scheme is? I like it a lot.

 Insane Ivan wrote:
The Skitarii counterpart pic to yesterday’s genestealer hybrids, from FB.

Anyone know which forgeworld that colour scheme is? I like it a lot.

Stygies VIII.

Black robes with red armor, and they sometimes ditch their robes to pretend they're Martians.

If this box contains Stygies decals, I'm buying three. At least.
Or begging/buying decals off people.