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No electro priest? Thought GW really want people to buy that kit in 8th by nerfing Rustalker to the ground =]

Chopstick wrote:
No electro priest? Thought GW really want people to buy that kit in 8th by nerfing Rustalker to the ground =]

Of course there's no Electropriests. What about them makes you think "covert ops"?

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
No electro priest? Thought GW really want people to buy that kit in 8th by nerfing Rustalker to the ground =]

Of course there's no Electropriests. What about them makes you think "covert ops"?

Yeah, they're not as stealthy as a Space Marine riding a giant wolf

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
No electro priest? Thought GW really want people to buy that kit in 8th by nerfing Rustalker to the ground =]

Of course there's no Electropriests. What about them makes you think "covert ops"?

Yeah, they're not as stealthy as a Space Marine riding a giant wolf

Gottem.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
No electro priest? Thought GW really want people to buy that kit in 8th by nerfing Rustalker to the ground =]

Of course there's no Electropriests. What about them makes you think "covert ops"?

Yeah, they're not as stealthy as a Space Marine riding a giant wolf

Hey, wolves are sneaky as hell. Not like the guy couldn't hop off.

i like it! and ruststalker + infiltrators are awesome models!

Even though they're not plastic kits, I was hoping for Hoplites and Peltasts.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
No electro priest? Thought GW really want people to buy that kit in 8th by nerfing Rustalker to the ground =]

Of course there's no Electropriests. What about them makes you think "covert ops"?

Yeah, they're not as stealthy as a Space Marine riding a giant wolf

Hey, wolves are sneaky as hell. Not like the guy couldn't hop off.

I was hoping for a stealthy, floating Talos to go along with a tactically genius Haemonculous and some special forces Wracks. My Magic 8-Ball says 'Don't count on it'

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
No electro priest? Thought GW really want people to buy that kit in 8th by nerfing Rustalker to the ground =]

Of course there's no Electropriests. What about them makes you think "covert ops"?

Yeah, they're not as stealthy as a Space Marine riding a giant wolf

Hey, wolves are sneaky as hell. Not like the guy couldn't hop off.

I was hoping for a stealthy, floating Talos to go along with a tactically genius Haemonculous and some special forces Wracks. My Magic 8-Ball says 'Don't count on it'

Realistically, the caveats used to explain these things in the past is that they're the things that 'emphasize a force's tactical doctrines'. A Lone Wolf on a Thunderwolf isn't something unexpected for what would basically be a 'Thirteen Warriors' styled group for the Space Wolves.

Same as a Drukhari raiding force with Hellions, Wyches, and Kabalite Warriors or things like Bullgryn, Guardsmen, and a Commissar.

Well the trailer showed wolves, but the faction is Space Marines, not Space Wolves. Even the starter box with Space Wolves on it says Space Marine Starter, not Space Wolves. So how is that going to work unless those lists are significantly longer than SWA's lists with Keywords...so Dark Angels don't end up riding wolves.

I think how lists get build will be very interesting to see. I'd expect at least as little choices as SWA and where those Operatives are available to the list, but in ones or twos...or maybe by spending CP for the battle? I'd expect to see some Stealthsuits or terminators in this game, but just not sure how they'll make it into lists and the tabletop.

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Well the trailer showed wolves, but the faction is Space Marines, not Space Wolves. Even the starter box with Space Wolves on it says Space Marine Starter, not Space Wolves. So how is that going to work unless those lists are significantly longer than SWA's lists with Keywords...so Dark Angels don't end up riding wolves.

I think how lists get build will be very interesting to see. I'd expect at least as little choices as SWA and where those Operatives are available to the list, but in ones or twos...or maybe by spending CP for the battle? I'd expect to see some Stealthsuits or terminators in this game, but just not sure how they'll make it into lists and the tabletop.

There is no chapter-specific articles planned according to the Kill Team Faction Focus Index, just one for 'Adeptus Astartes'.

Not happy with the reuse of 8th edition rules. Was hoping for a unique game but every rumour, community post and leak has shown that this just seems right now as kinda lazy. Really hope I'm wrong and it's ana amazing rule set that lets me really go crazy on making unique units I fel like i want to name.

with all the info beginning to come out about Kill Team I begin to suspect Rogue Trader may well be some sort of Narrative game based on the Kill Team ruleset

that way they get a stand alone game that will sell to 40K players and Killteam players

and it would explain the number of apparent 'heroes' on the RT side of the box with doesn't fit with what they've shown for killteam. Most of the time you'll be using one of them with some buck rogers guards and there will maybe be a big scenario at the end of the game where you can use them all

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
No electro priest? Thought GW really want people to buy that kit in 8th by nerfing Rustalker to the ground =]

Of course there's no Electropriests. What about them makes you think "covert ops"?

They did, in fact, enjoy doing covert ops everyday. against each other. So I think they are more than capaple.

Support pack coming in September. With badges, tokens, some odd dice, stickers and special objective marker sets.

Man, I would play the crap out of this if only they released rules for Krieg, Corsairs and 30k Mech...

Honestly, was kinda against the people complaining but now I kinda get it... you bought a rule book so expect the rules to be in it but GW is basically selling day 1 DLC in the form of starter boxes that have the complete rules obviously cut out of the rule book to persuade players to buy units they already have painted.
It would have been better for both new and old players if they made a cheapish £10-20 starter set for each faction with 5 troops in and a sprue with extra bits on. Then, let the rule book just be the rule book without me having to staple and carry an encyclopedia around with me of all the rules I am missing because I didn't buy all the box sets.

 Ghaz wrote:
There is no chapter-specific articles planned according to the Kill Team Faction Focus Index, just one for 'Adeptus Astartes'.

I know that, there was no chapter-specific lists for SWA, yet there was some differentiation. The faction focus' might not be the whole story since the first teaser for Kill Team has Space Wolves on wolves. Sure people can make mistakes, but GW was already printing books by the time that video was released. They knew what you could take and couldn't... So either there will be: additional operatives, wolves for everybody, or whoops--my bad about the wolves in the video.

I'm wondering now if Rogue Trader doesn't just add HQ and personalities to the game and make Kill Team more like Mordheim. Your cool personalities will advance like Necromunda characters and your grunts will have less detailed advancement. Only thing is that could split the base between those wanting to play a "pure" Kill Team and those running over to Inquisimunda 8th Edition.

 CragHack wrote:
Support pack coming in September. With badges, tokens, some odd dice, stickers and special objective marker sets.

Man, I would play the crap out of this if only they released rules for Krieg, Corsairs and 30k Mech...

From the Kill Team Q&A

CAN I USE MY FORGE WORLD MODELS IN KILL TEAM?

There’s loads of stuff from Forge World that’s great for Kill Team. The Astra Militarum rules encompass ALL regiments of the Guard, so could well represent your Death Korps of Krieg, while the various upgrade packs and conversion kits that are available are great for customising your collection. There are currently no plans for rules for individual Forge World units.

So for Krieg you would use the same rules as Cadians, Mordians, Valhallans, Vostroyans, etc.

 CragHack wrote:
Support pack coming in September. With badges, tokens, some odd dice, stickers and special objective marker sets.

Man, I would play the crap out of this if only they released rules for Krieg, Corsairs and 30k Mech...

"The Astra Militarum rules encompass ALL regiments of the Guard, so could well represent your Death Korps of Krieg"

so what's the verdict? ... will the rogue trader section be part of imperial agents / inq or standalone new army?

 Apple Peel wrote:

Then what is the bloody point of colored plastic?

There is no point.

 Crimson wrote:
That preview seems to confirm what I feared: that you just have the options available to the squads in 40K. No fun things like Infiltrators with arquebuses allowed. Boring.

Aye, not my bag at all. Limited units, limited options, "catch 'em all" rules collecting, ech. Ah well, back to hoping for a new Inquisimunda.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Of course there's no Electropriests. What about them makes you think "covert ops"?

It would allow creating more varied team and they're multipart plastic kit. There is no reason to exclude them.

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Well the trailer showed wolves, but the faction is Space Marines, not Space Wolves. Even the starter box with Space Wolves on it says Space Marine Starter, not Space Wolves. So how is that going to work unless those lists are significantly longer than SWA's lists with Keywords...so Dark Angels don't end up riding wolves.

I think how lists get build will be very interesting to see. I'd expect at least as little choices as SWA and where those Operatives are available to the list, but in ones or twos...or maybe by spending CP for the battle? I'd expect to see some Stealthsuits or terminators in this game, but just not sure how they'll make it into lists and the tabletop.

Maybe the unit entry will be "Marine Rider" or something, with a note that this datasheet can represent a space marine on a bike or similar units such as thunderwolf cavalry.

 Not-not-kenny wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
Support pack coming in September. With badges, tokens, some odd dice, stickers and special objective marker sets.

Man, I would play the crap out of this if only they released rules for Krieg, Corsairs and 30k Mech...

"The Astra Militarum rules encompass ALL regiments of the Guard, so could well represent your Death Korps of Krieg"

That's not Krieg. That's just a lazy generalization.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
That preview seems to confirm what I feared: that you just have the options available to the squads in 40K. No fun things like Infiltrators with arquebuses allowed. Boring.

Aye, not my bag at all. Limited units, limited options, "catch 'em all" rules collecting, ech. Ah well, back to hoping for a new Inquisimunda.

Honestly, we do not know how many of those Tactics cards will not also be represented 1. In the initial Rulebook, 2. In further rulebooks (we know these are coming, see Rogue Trader, 3. Will be made available later in Tactics card packs or 4. Will be published for free on a KT website. All we know now is that 6 of 12 Ork Tactics cards are unique to the starter set. Whether that’s the card format, or the Tactics themselves, we don’t know for sure. Worst case scenario, you’ll “need” your faction of choice’s starter box if you want to enter competetive play. While that’s not ideal, it’s hardly “collect them all”.

Anyway, I’m still looking forward to this. A properly supported 40k skirmish game, now even with promised model support (as opposed to rules only), is all I’ve ever wanted.

What I’m hoping they’ll explain alongside the faction previews, is how list building works - we’ve no information on that so far apart from the fact that you can mix and match from different squads. We do also know “battleforged” is a thing in KT, so perhaps that’ll apply to Kill Teams drawing their fighters from one unit type only?

 Crimson wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Of course there's no Electropriests. What about them makes you think "covert ops"?

It would allow creating more varied team and they're multipart plastic kit. There is no reason to exclude them.

No reason at all. They probably did it out of spite.

Maybe they didn't include electro-priests because they're the ugliest kit GW has created in recent memory?

 Yodhrin wrote:
Aye, not my bag at all. Limited units, limited options, "catch 'em all" rules collecting, ech. Ah well, back to hoping for a new Inquisimunda.

"catch 'em all" rules collecting? Do you have a similar opinion about Necromunda and Blood Bowl's use of tactics cards? What about Magic the Gathering? Is that a cynical exercise in forcing consumers to pay extra to have all the rules?

 Arachnofiend wrote:
Maybe they didn't include electro-priests because they're the ugliest kit GW has created in recent memory?

What? You're crazy. The Corpuscarii look awesome!