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The two sides of the starter box board (assuming you have two of them, and the reverse of the sector mechanicus board seem to line up like this;

So the dice come separate from the starters they're associated with? And in the same week that new starters are released, which then have to wait for their own dice*? That's odd.

*We are getting more than just Space Wolves and Orks, right?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Unfortunately if they released Ez-2-Bild Aspect kits, it would mean they would lose some of the already-sparse options that they currently have.

They could always just make the Aspect Warriors that don't have options easy to build and sell the Exarchs separately with all three weapon options in one of those 30€ clampacks GW loves so much.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
The two sides of the starter box board (assuming you have two of them, and the reverse of the sector mechanicus board seem to line up like this;

Wouldn't that make it approx. the same size as the Moon Base Klasius board?

Sorry if it's already been posted, but should I expect pre-orders for the next sets to open this weekend, or is the only ETA 'soon'?

phillv85 wrote:
Sorry if it's already been posted, but should I expect pre-orders for the next sets to open this weekend, or is the only ETA 'soon'?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/07/22/coming-next-week/

This weekend coming, 28th.

 Dedwoods42 wrote:

phillv85 wrote:
Sorry if it's already been posted, but should I expect pre-orders for the next sets to open this weekend, or is the only ETA 'soon'?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/07/22/coming-next-week/

This weekend coming, 28th.

Perfect, thanks

So if I understand correctly, the only way your team 'grows' over the course of a campaign is replacing casualties and gaining higher ranks in their specialities? You start with and will be stuck with the 100 point limit over the entire campaign?

And has there been any information how playing with more than 2 players will be handled? Bigger board, alliances between players?

 Redemption wrote:
So if I understand correctly, the only way your team 'grows' over the course of a campaign is replacing casualties and gaining higher ranks in their specialities? You start with and will be stuck with the 100 point limit over the entire campaign?

And has there been any information how playing with more than 2 players will be handled? Bigger board, alliances between players?

From the reviews - there is a suggestion that you increase to 150 points at some point. Need to have the book in hand for a clearer answer - although it sounds like it's open to modification.

Yes, the suggestion is that 3-4 players use 2 boards together.

 Redemption wrote:
So if I understand correctly, the only way your team 'grows' over the course of a campaign is replacing casualties and gaining higher ranks in their specialities? You start with and will be stuck with the 100 point limit over the entire campaign?

For what it's worth, that's the way it has been with previous iterations of Kill Team.

You build a roster within the points value given, then you get to pick & choose who you want to take on what mission. If people die--then you've got replacements on hand.

And has there been any information how playing with more than 2 players will be handled? Bigger board, alliances between players?

Not that I've seen.

Have we had it confirmed that Rogue Trader uses the Kill Team ruleset?

For some reason I thought RT was a separate boxed game.

It's a KT expansion, but it will likely provide a new way of playing given that it's set aboard a ship.

 Silentz wrote:
Have we had it confirmed that Rogue Trader uses the Kill Team ruleset?

For some reason I thought RT was a separate boxed game.

I believe it's considered an expansion to kill team. Basic rules should be the same.

 Not-not-kenny wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
The two sides of the starter box board (assuming you have two of them, and the reverse of the sector mechanicus board seem to line up like this;

Wouldn't that make it approx. the same size as the Moon Base Klasius board?

No. Moonbase Klaisus board requires 4 Kill Team sized boards.

Has anyone actually measured the Kill Team boards? I know that it says 22"x30" in all descriptions, but Moonbase Klaisus and Blasted Hallowheart boards are made up of 22"x33" sections and I would be surprised if they were different sized.

 Silentz wrote:
Have we had it confirmed that Rogue Trader uses the Kill Team ruleset?

For some reason I thought RT was a separate boxed game.

Biker guy - illegal
Terminator - illegal
Chaplain - illegal, even if I wanted to proxy, since I can't take bolt pistols
Librarian - illegal, even if I wanted to proxy, since I can't take bolt pistols
Jump packers 2x - illegal
Guy with a Chainsword and Boltgun - illegal, no ability to take a chainsword
Guy with plasma pistol and power sword - illegal, can't take plasma pistols
Guy with boltgun - legal
Guy with combi-melta - legal
Guy with Frag Cannon - Legal

Out of these 11 models which were released specifically to get people into Deathwatch with the release of the Deathwatch codex, are there really only THREE that I can actually use in this new game mode? WTF? Why is the basic loadout of a deathwatch vet from 40k an illegal loadout in Kill Team, and why make the basic loadout for Kill Team something that's impossible to make out of the Deathwatch multipart kit (just a boltgun nothing else requires cutting/greenstuff because all boltguns in the DW vet kit are single hand carry)

So, hold on. Your gripe is that... special models, from a different special box set, are not compatible with the rules for another different game, a year or two after that one came out?

I'd wager, my friend, of all the things you could pester yourself to be upset about, that should not be one of them.

Yeah I'm pretty bummed over not being able to use my Squats & Zoats

 Cephalobeard wrote:
So, hold on. Your gripe is that... special models, from a different special box set, are not compatible with the rules for another different game, a year or two after that one came out?

I'd wager, my friend, of all the things you could pester yourself to be upset about, that should not be one of them.

"special models" from the initial box set that came out with the release of the army

Yes, I would be hoping that they would bother to allow the 5 monopose Deathwatch Veterans from the DW:Overkill box set to be compatible with Kill Team. That'd have been nice. They hit the mark on 3/5

It'd also be great if they didn't make the basic loadout that was legal in Kill Team incompatible with the multi part box set. I didn't even mention the veterans that I have made out of the basic plastic kit, because they're all illegal anyway - since all the models holding boltguns are one hand carry, and the basic vet loadout in 40k is boltgun/chainsword, all my vets are either built with boltgun/chainsword or boltgun/storm shield.

I suppose you can use the Deathwatch Veterans box set to make basic Kill Team veterans by just leaving one arm off the marines.

I just knew if I mentioned that the white knight brigade would jump down my throat yelling 'hurr durr you could have seen the future and built your models in a way that was legal for kill team!"

White knights? Lol

You're upset that special NAMED CHARACTERS from a boxed game aren't compatible with a BOXED GAME nearly two years after its release.

No one is saying you should have seen the future. We're just pointing out thats a silly thing to be upset about.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
White knights? Lol

You're upset that special NAMED CHARACTERS from a boxed game aren't compatible with a BOXED GAME nearly two years after its release.

No one is saying you should have seen the future. We're just pointing out thats a silly thing to be upset about.

If you want to get really technical (and evidently, you do) the characters from the Kill Team Cassius box (https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/deathwatch-kill-team-cassius-2016) no longer have any rules in 40k as named characters, their weapon options are just included in the basic options that various deathwatch units can take. Further, "squad donatus" was never a "named character" in the 40k rules, they had rules at one point between the release of DWO and the proper Deathwatch codex in basic 40k as a squad of Deathwatch Veterans, but from the 7th ed codex on they were just folded into the main codex generic rules as basic veterans.

Why my orks have access to options that come from a different plastic kit (Kombi Weapons and Big Choppas from the Nobz kit) and my Deathwatch rules don't even include all the options available for Deathwatch Vets that GW manufactures is just beyond me. add in that they chose to make the actual legal basic loadout something that is impossible to make out of the actual multipart plastic kit without kitbashing or greenstuff, and yeah, I'm a little irritated.

 xttz wrote:
Yeah I'm pretty bummed over not being able to use my Squats & Zoats

or

Striking Scorpions
Mandrakes
Sisters of Battle (coming maybe 2019, maybe - probably not)
Sisters of Silence

I wonder if any of the above would be a good unit for a game that claims its about Elite special teams......or if any of them are stealthy enough to do the job.

or if any of the following would be fun to use in a Guard Kill Team

Single or dual Close Combat weapon equipped Guard - wow they would be hard to convert form all those AOS models they are already using to make slightly different looking Cadian models
Camo cloak equipped guard (Tanith) - ditto
Carpace armoured guard - already available
Guard medic - already available

Did the rules for each army in Kill Team get spoiled?

Next wave

Interesting that they're $50 rather than $65...and I can't help but feel like something's off as the Sector Munitorum is billed at "the same price as a Start Collecting".

 Kanluwen wrote:
Interesting that they're $50 rather than $65...and I can't help but feel like something's off as the Sector Munitorum is billed at "the same price as a Start Collecting".

So was Killzone Sector Mechanicus. I think they're the same price as the SC! in £

but yes the team sets for $50 instead of $60 like the Marines and Orks, but they DO contain less "valuable" terrain (only ~$33 worth of terrain unlike the Orks and Marines sets)

Really hoping we get information on what the Cards do within the new kill team boxes. I want the expanded AM rules, but I don't much care for Scions.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Really hoping we get information on what the Cards do within the new kill team boxes. I want the expanded AM rules, but I don't much care for Scions.

It would make sense for them to just be cards representing the Tactics in the rulebook - but there's a good chance that they're additional ones, as that's what they seem to be advertising.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Really hoping we get information on what the Cards do within the new kill team boxes. I want the expanded AM rules, but I don't much care for Scions.

As far as I've been able to find, it's seeming like the "only available in this box" cards are specific to the premade Kill Team.


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 Dedwoods42 wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Really hoping we get information on what the Cards do within the new kill team boxes. I want the expanded AM rules, but I don't much care for Scions.

It would make sense for them to just be cards representing the Tactics in the rulebook - but there's a good chance that they're additional ones, as that's what they seem to be advertising.

The wording points toward the Tactics from the rulebook being present and some exclusive to the box.

Well, okay, allow me to better word this.

I intend to use one Tempestor, but that's about it. Just curious what it'll all do, and maybe it will sway me towards more Scions, I suppose.

the_scotsman wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
So, hold on. Your gripe is that... special models, from a different special box set, are not compatible with the rules for another different game, a year or two after that one came out?

I'd wager, my friend, of all the things you could pester yourself to be upset about, that should not be one of them.

"special models" from the initial box set that came out with the release of the army

Yes, I would be hoping that they would bother to allow the 5 monopose Deathwatch Veterans from the DW:Overkill box set to be compatible with Kill Team. That'd have been nice. They hit the mark on 3/5

It'd also be great if they didn't make the basic loadout that was legal in Kill Team incompatible with the multi part box set. I didn't even mention the veterans that I have made out of the basic plastic kit, because they're all illegal anyway - since all the models holding boltguns are one hand carry, and the basic vet loadout in 40k is boltgun/chainsword, all my vets are either built with boltgun/chainsword or boltgun/storm shield.

I suppose you can use the Deathwatch Veterans box set to make basic Kill Team veterans by just leaving one arm off the marines.

I just knew if I mentioned that the white knight brigade would jump down my throat yelling 'hurr durr you could have seen the future and built your models in a way that was legal for kill team!"

But why would anyone in this thread care that you have to buy some new models?