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Well, maybe?

The are 'modernized' and somewhat grim - the Injustice 'crossover' in particular!

I'm cautiously optimistic about the CMON game teased here - I do hope it is some sort of battle or crawler, and not a 'regular' board game.

MM DotD: $8 : Wrath of Kings: House Teknes - Lineman Box #1 (14)

Same sculpts as in Teknes starter box.

https://www.miniaturemarket.com/dailydeal/

Next KS Massive Darkness 2

Is that before or after the MOTU Kickstarter?

That was out of the blue, didn't expect that.

MD2?!?

I’m all in!

Interesting. I didn't think Massive Darkness was well received (the rules at least). But maybe it sold better than I thought it had.

Miniatures are great. In our gaming group, Gloomhaven fired all the other dungeoncrawlers, but finding miniature proxies has been a pain. For a racial group, you will want melee, ranged, and spellcasting units, about six each. I used the MD orc and goblin fighters, archers, and shamans for these units. Almost impossible to find a good price for sufficient numbers of these miniatures of the same sculpting style, especially spellcasters.

Game sorta plays like overly complicated HeroQuest. Some gamers said they and the kids like the game. I guess if you don't have your dungeoncrawler with custom dice and like the miniatures, pick up MD2.

I really hope CMON fulfills its outstanding KS and settles this audit in the next few months, though.

It did not get as much money as other KS iirc and it had some strong criticism about the rules, I did not expect them to give it a sequel, I am glad it does get one and that they keep the proper art direction instead of killing it like they did with sci fi zombicide and project elite...

Damn, you really won't let that Invader thing go, will you?

And for a then unknown property, MD made over 3.5M in the first Kickstarter.

I don't think it will make that much (or more) this time around because of...the state of the world, but who knows?

Either way, it 'deserves' a Part Two and I'm glad it is getting one!

I found out about their comic Kickstarter 7 hours before it ended. Don't give a damn about the comic TBH, but $30 for a set of 8 new Zombicide survivors with 1st Edition stat cards? Yes please.

Glad to see more Massive Darkness (hope we get more evil gnomes) as I found it a fun romp

I think one of the reasons it got such criticism on release was it was never intended to have a campaign system as written but due to demand in during the KS (not unexpected people always want to 'improve' their characters in dungeon crawlers) they bolted one on (and of course it wasn't particularly great)

so it was criticised for a weak campaign mode. If they've had time to actually think about it properly I hope this has been improved substantially (and in a way the original game can also benefit from)

 Alpharius wrote:
Damn, you really won't let that Invader thing go, will you?

No, and as much I understand that it is illogical for me to do so, it was the one I was most excited for and it was a massive disappointment, I was expecting/ hoping to get some generic sci fi models in line with mass effect/ other proper sci fi/ euromanga aesthetics and I got mostly 40k knockoffs.

I am quite happy to see they kept the same artwork with the first one for the second massive darkness as I like this aesthetic and it is a good resource for fantasy dungeon crawler models.

Rumor is MD2 is more focused on Demons but I’m sure there will be lots of different types as add ons. At the very least if will also expand Green Horde and Black Plague as a card pack is highly likely.

I left a dollar in for the comics KS pledge levels aren’t bad on their own but the postage could nearly double the cost so I’ll wait for the PM to decide - that said I did spend $75 on the Turtle packs so who am I to judge!

 Gallahad wrote:
Interesting. I didn't think Massive Darkness was well received (the rules at least). But maybe it sold better than I thought it had.

Classic CMoN, in that the rules were trash, but the models were gorgeous, and dirt cheap. I know at least three folks (myself included) who threw out the gameplay bits, but still feel good about the purchase thanks to the minis.

I kind of view zombiecides and massive darkness as cheap gameplay component instead of complete games, though the 2nd edition Zombicide is a big update on the 1st edition one.

If they tighten up the rules like they have from most 1.0 to 2.0 versions, I can see this really take off.

Curious if the light/ dark rules will still be there or more straightforward.

A lot of people also wanted something similar to Heroquest or Warhammer Quest. I wonder if they'll try and do something similar from the ground up rather than just tacked on?

I am excited for this. Unlike some others. I am hoping for more character models as well as bad guys. I would have preferred vampires, but demons are at least different from the last Massive darkness. I havent backed a CMON project since Green Horde in 2017. So, I am kind of excited for this.

Them revisiting Massive darkness gives me hope, that they could revisit Wrath of Kings. That could happen? ... Right? ...Right? .... Guys?

I doubt it, but it is a shame to not utilize the IP (and sculpts) in a creative way as a boardgame.

Awesome!!! sets date to hide Bank statement from wife.

I was saving money for more Return to Dark Tower if they reopen the PM. Looks like that money is earmarked for Massive Darkness 2 instead.

 Gallahad wrote:
Interesting. I didn't think Massive Darkness was well received (the rules at least). But maybe it sold better than I thought it had.

Well, if it's like Rum and Bones 2 and Zombicide 2, MD2 will be a revised edition of their previous game, including an upgrade kit. With this being generic fantasy, and the upgrade kit including content you may not have bought with MD1, it might be easier to proxy generic fantasy miniatures you already have. MD1 had some terrain add-ons (eg. bridges and pillars) that were inexpensive, although WizKids might have their own version.

RB2 : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cmon/rum-and-bones-second-tide
Z2 : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cmon/zombicide-2nd-edition

Them revisiting Massive darkness gives me hope, that they could revisit Wrath of Kings. That could happen? ... Right? ...Right? .... Guys?

EDIT : After having bought much of CMON's stock, MM's been having WK starter boxes et al. for clearance for quite awhile. (Picked up mini's for each faction for about $70.) Also, CMON is supporting (in theory) Game of Thrones. Dunno any of the larger game companies who put out new product for two miniature wargame lines they didn't put out product for, one of which was on clearance for several months, while supporting a third miniature game line. (FFG does something close, with Star Wars X-Wing, Star Wars Armada, and Star Wars Legion.)

 Smokestack wrote:
I am excited for this. Unlike some others. I am hoping for more character models as well as bad guys. I would have preferred vampires, but demons are at least different from the last Massive darkness. I havent backed a CMON project since Green Horde in 2017. So, I am kind of excited for this.

Them revisiting Massive darkness gives me hope, that they could revisit Wrath of Kings. That could happen? ... Right? ...Right? .... Guys?

Dammit!

Now you've got me hoping for the same thing - and we all know how well 'hope' goes in many game settings!!!

All kidding aside, there's a better chance of this happening vs. CMON bringing back their best game ever (Dark Age) - via Kickstarter or some other way!

https://cmon.com/news/cmon-announces-masters-of-the-universe-the-board-game

Cool, I liked MOTU growing up.

However, if CMON really wants to bankrupt me they should have gone with GI Joe.

Ha!

We were discussing that one page back, including the GI Joe wishlisting too!

So is Europe getting missed out for some reason?

"Masters of the Universe: The Board Game in North America, South America and throughout Asia"

 Original Timmy wrote:
So is Europe getting missed out for some reason?

"Masters of the Universe: The Board Game in North America, South America and throughout Asia"

Licensing issues, most likely that someone already has the MOTU board game licence in Europe. Similar issues have popped up with Star Wars and Marvel comics in the past.

so the manufactoring of the marvel united core box has begone:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cmon/marvel-united/posts/2856800?ref=android_update_share&fbclid=IwAR3ufWM31pqrjkhHbh0sp3_AG66HJhl0qOi6B5HHXLXbKqSkYxC-TrWipq0

 Gallahad wrote:
Interesting. I didn't think Massive Darkness was well received (the rules at least). But maybe it sold better than I thought it had.

...yeah, the rules were a hot mess.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
Interesting. I didn't think Massive Darkness was well received (the rules at least). But maybe it sold better than I thought it had.

...yeah, the rules were a hot mess.

They weren't great, especially the hastily tacked on 'campaign rules', but the art direction was good, the miniatures were very good, and...

1 Zombicide Green Horde - 5,000,000
2 Rising Sun - 4,200,000
3 Zombicide Black Plague - 4,100,000
4 Bloodbourne - 4,000,000
5 Zombicide Invader - 3,600,000
6 Massive Darkness - 3,600,000
7 Zombicide 2nd Edition - 3,400,000
8 Ankh - 3,300,000
9 Marvel United - 2,900,000
10 Zombicide 3 - 2,800,000
11 Cthulhu DMD - 2,400,000
12 Zombicide 2 - 2,300,000
13 Arcadia Quest Inferno - 1,700,000
14 Song of Ice and Fire - 1,700,000
15 Hate - 1,500,000
16 Zombicide 1 - 780,000

Money talks!

(Note: List hastily assembled and numbers rounded up!)

I guess I'm more surprised we're not getting another Zombicide (X), especially when you look at the Top 15 money makers for them.

I threw in a bonus number 16 entry, to show the humble beginnings of the Zombicide Franchise.

It was interesting to see the oft maligned Zombicide Invader doing so well - I didn't remember that, but I wonder how well a sequel would do?

I'm guessing "fairly well"...

I'm looking forward to MD 2 though, and hopefully the rules are cleaned up, polished and reach back into the first campaign too!