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 lolman1c wrote:
I'm still angrybthey advertise it as 5 burna boyz when in their package they clearly show a mek!

isn't the leader a mek or gets the gun upgrade?

 lolman1c wrote:
I'm still angrybthey advertise it as 5 burna boyz when in their package they clearly show a mek!

Burna and Loota are the same kit, with an option to make a Mek with kustom mega blasta, and also a big shoota and rokkit, different from the one in the Boyz kit.

I'm surprised as an Ork player you didn't know this.

But no second arm to hold the big shoota/rokkit, weirdly.

mortar_crew wrote:
Not rumour, but fact:

One of the best piece in the ork range is OOP:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Ork-Trukk-with-Enclosed-Cab

And the big squiggoth is Temporarily out of stock again...

Don’t worry, the trukk’s just getting repackaged and will be back soon, apparently


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But no second arm to hold the big shoota/rokkit, weirdly.

Yup. This is the weirdest of the weird, annoying choices around this kit.

The option to have a KMB would be nice, especially in native splitfire meta, if the KMB was worth a damn to begin with.
Easily the worst high AP weapon in existence, since its expensive, uses an Ork's BS, and can still cause the Ork to blow up even though a lot of other similar weapons only do it when they overcharge now.
The sheer fact that they had to hit the same target is why i never bothered with them, since the target the lootas/burnas wanted the KMB did not want (range or power reasons).
But since its expensive, inaccurate, and can blow up in your face, gimmie a 5th burna....

Chopstick wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
I'm still angrybthey advertise it as 5 burna boyz when in their package they clearly show a mek!

Burna and Loota are the same kit, with an option to make a Mek with kustom mega blasta, and also a big shoota and rokkit, different from the one in the Boyz kit.

I'm surprised as an Ork player you didn't know this.

In the kit you only get 4 burna boyz and you ahve to make 1 mek! I'm surprised you don't know this seen as you called me out on it.

"This multi-part plastic boxed set contains enough components to make five models: either four Burna Boyz or four Lootas, as well as one Ork Mek armed with a kustom mega-blasta."

Source:

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Ork-Burna-Boyz

Trying to call me out and then trying to disgrace me as an ork player... what a low level skummy move. I know what I'm talking about or i wouldn't post it! It clearly says on the kill team advertising "5 Burna boyz, cast in coloured....." and yet their own site says the kit can only make "four Burna boyz.... as well as one Ork mek armed with a Kustom Mega-blasta".so which one is it ? Can it make 4 or 5? Huuuuh? I was alread in a bad mood today but you've put me in a worse one.

Source of failed advert:

Iirc the deffguns and burnaz are on two different sprues, so this is most likely just the relevant Burnaz sprues, plus the mek sprue. No Lootaz parts.

You can see on this awesome handy sub-forum I never noticed before.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Ork_Sprues

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Iirc the deffguns and burnaz are on two different sprues, so this is most likely just the relevant Burnaz sprues, plus the mek sprue. No Lootaz parts.

You can see on this awesome handy sub-forum I never noticed before.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Ork_Sprues

I'm fairly sure that the three sprues in the kit are actually all part of a single casting which is then cut up to fit into boxes. Casting two out of the three is probably impossible.

It's like the old computes the used to sell you 100mb memories and 200mb memories. It was the exsact same chip, you just opened up the case and flipped a switch on the motherboard to get the full 200 for half the price. It's funny but it's cheaper for companies to just hand you the full sprue rather than start hiring people to cut out the mek, etc...

 lolman1c wrote:


In the kit you only get 4 burna boyz and you ahve to make 1 mek! I'm surprised you don't know this seen as you called me out on it.

My bad, guess I should sue GW now.


.....Got 'em?

Chopstick wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:


In the kit you only get 4 burna boyz and you ahve to make 1 mek! I'm surprised you don't know this seen as you called me out on it.

My bad, guess I should sue GW now.


.....Got 'em?

Meh... I was a bit of a dick because of my bad mood. I'm sorry. But yeah, I just thought it'd stupid that gw doesn't know their own product... i mean it is the marketing team, they probably don't play the game. I did marketing once and had no interest in the product i was selling. XD

 lolman1c wrote:
Trying to call me out and then trying to disgrace me as an ork player...

He kinda has a point tho. Bit sites are full of Imperial flamers, just grab one for cheap, orkify it with a bit of card, done. Two burnas in box even have Space Marine style gloves so you don't even need to cut or convert anything, just slap it as is on ork arms and the job's done.

I mean, it's not like orks are known for re-purposing enemy gubbinz or anything, eh?

I think we should stop bumping this until there're actually any news or rumour.

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Aparntly my post was delted. I'm not ashamed of this, I'm in a bad mood so maybe my Ork swearing got a bit too close to real swearing (even though i keep it as funny and light as possible so maybe it was taken the wrong way).

But basically, I say:

Why can't we admit GW made 1 small mistake for once. Why do i and all the Ork players have to go out of their way to convert a model just so GW can end up correct? If any company misprinted that an object contained something but it actually doesn't then people would genuinely sue. I was just making light joke of it.

 lolman1c wrote:
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reds8n

Aparntly my post was delted. I'm not ashamed of this, I'm in a bad mood so maybe my Ork swearing got a bit too close to real swearing (even though i keep it as funny and light as possible so maybe it was taken the wrong way).

But basically, I say:

Why can't we admit GW made 1 small mistake for once. Why do i and all the Ork players have to go out of their way to convert a model just so GW can end up correct? If any company misprinted that an object contained something but it actually doesn't then people would genuinely sue. I was just making light joke of it.

I don’t think anyone’s suggesting the kit’s not a bit daft/mildly annoying. More that it’s not worth getting hugely bent out of shape over and adding to the incessant moaning by a certain sub-section of the Ork player base.

 Nazrak wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
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reds8n

Aparntly my post was delted. I'm not ashamed of this, I'm in a bad mood so maybe my Ork swearing got a bit too close to real swearing (even though i keep it as funny and light as possible so maybe it was taken the wrong way).

But basically, I say:

Why can't we admit GW made 1 small mistake for once. Why do i and all the Ork players have to go out of their way to convert a model just so GW can end up correct? If any company misprinted that an object contained something but it actually doesn't then people would genuinely sue. I was just making light joke of it.

I don’t think anyone’s suggesting the kit’s not a bit daft/mildly annoying. More that it’s not worth getting hugely bent out of shape over and adding to the incessant moaning by a certain sub-section of the Ork player base.

I honestly didn't care about it untill people told me i was wrong, and then when i proved I was correct they told me GW didn't make a mistake because I can convert it... -_- I brought it up again because it's funny and nobody noticed it....

Anyway, let's move on before a mod ban hammers me or something.

Anyone hear anything more about recalls or is that just my mates shop? Could be his shop had too much stock.... or could be because he's based in uk so easier to recall it. Either eay, people were saying it might show an ork name change but i highly doubt that. I don't even think gw would stoop that low.

Was just at my GW and the owner didnt know anything about the new codex, though I did notice that a number of ork boxes were on the"last chance to buy in store" area. Off the top of my head there was Grukks mob, lootas, trukk, flash gits, nobs and I think Killa Kans as well..

There were other kits from other armies too like BA DC and tacticals, Ironclad Dread, SW Pack/tacticals and RW command squad.

Not sure if they were making space or what, but most of the kits were orks. Dont know if this is old news or not, I havnt been in a GW in a while.

 lolman1c wrote:
Why do i and all the Ork players have to go out of their way to convert a model

You know, I like contrast between KT threads. In KT one, people whine because they already set up 'can't convert' strawman, here, because of 'need to convert' one. Over the contents of literally the same box. All while knowing no rules or anything yet. Truly, GW can't please everyone, eh?

And yeah, I don't get this dumb crusade over one weapon bit. I looked at the box and Mek weapon looks so similar to flamer you can simply snip off a few extraneous gubbinz off it, presto, GW was 100% right, 5 burnas. How bored you need to be to complain over non-issue so easy to solve in dozen ways in literally 30 seconds...?

I'm excited for Kill Team, but if they are only going to do one faction focus a day that means it is going to be a couple weeks before they're through with them.

Of course, they could also start putting out previews of what is coming after Kill Team.

I'm excited for orks. It's a pity the last 13 pages contain none of them.

Seriously. Why are we here?

 Mousemuffins wrote:
I'm excited for orks. It's a pity the last 13 pages contain none of them.

Seriously. Why are we here?

Yeah, right now this thread is basically another "Ork wishlisting" thread, which we already have in the tactics forum as well as the suggestions forum.

And I'd wager a solid 25% of the posts are people saying "OMG why are we even here rumours or GTFO stop bumping for no reason" etc.

Uhhmmm.... lol?

Until we get the ork codex all threads are ork wishlisting threads.

After we get the ork codex all threads will be ork wishlisting threads.

All threads are ork wishlisting threads forever.

Can't wait for the new Ork book. They must be having the time of their lives given the new crazy state of things.

New fiction focused on the Kult of Speed coming. New buggies and such and a giant centrepiece Ghaz update would be fantastic.

*sigh* I have a reverse rumor.

I previously posted on Dakka that the new Ork Codex will include a datasheet for a Looted Wagon. This rumor was repeated by several other people, so it did spread.

The person who told me this also claimed a few other things, which included the Ork Codex being out before June 30.

When I followed up, he admitted he had not seen the final Codex and did not know specifically if the Looted Wagon was included. He said Kill Team's release affected the schedule for several other products and this made his information dated.

So... I apologize in advance if I got anyone's hopes up for no reason. Still optimistic Looted Wagons are coming back, but this is not based on some insider knowledge.

 techsoldaten wrote:
*sigh* I have a reverse rumor.

I previously posted on Dakka that the new Ork Codex will include a datasheet for a Looted Wagon. This rumor was repeated by several other people, so it did spread.

The person who told me this also claimed a few other things, which included the Ork Codex being out before June 30.

When I followed up, he admitted he had not seen the final Codex and did not know specifically if the Looted Wagon was included. He said Kill Team's release affected the schedule for several other products and this made his information dated.

So... I apologize in advance if I got anyone's hopes up for no reason. Still optimistic Looted Wagons are coming back, but this is not based on some insider knowledge.

Finally! Some juicey rumour stuff to play with!

Okay, first! We find this dude and persuade him to spill da beeenz! Then! We strap a squig to him until he tells us the truth! Then! We Waaagh across the whole of England until we get to Nottingham, the capital of the Terrian Empire! Then, figures out what the hell is going on!

So! From this point forward! We all discuss thsi rumour and this rumour only untill someone makes another one up!

Was this the same dude who msged thatdude who made the video btw?

And why would killteam mess things up? Was it rushed? Not planned? Hmmmmmmm... interesting! Now discuss!

This fits with something said on the Game Classy podcast (one of the hosts is involved in game distribution so has friends in the industry) that Killteam has been pushed up the schedule

as the AoS launch didn't do as well as was hoped in the US (not to say that it didn't do well, just that it didn't hit the heights of 40K 8th) so Kill Team gets brought forward to 'mak up' the numbers

As far as the "Last Chance to Buy" stuff is concerned, my local store has a few Idoneth items on that shelf in addition to a smattering of others, no Orks though.

They keep having to make room for new products and are generally sending the stuff back that is either part of a Start Collecting or isn't a big seller. That quite a few "core" Ork kits are being sent back (at some stores, might not be all but we'll have to wait and see) given their age could be a hint that they will get reboxed or receive new kits, though it's equally or more likely that they're just going to be online-only from now on and not be repackaged (besides going from having art to a plain white box).

I don't think expecting a big Ork range refresh is realistic but I do expect there to be a few new kits.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
This fits with something said on the Game Classy podcast (one of the hosts is involved in game distribution so has friends in the industry) that Killteam has been pushed up the schedule

as the AoS launch didn't do as well as was hoped in the US (not to say that it didn't do well, just that it didn't hit the heights of 40K 8th) so Kill Team gets brought forward to 'mak up' the numbers

This! This is exsactly what I said and predicted would happen! I told you all GW's tactics would just present a small temporary bonus to sales that wouldn't last and would son cause them to desperately try to make up for it causing them to get more stuff wrong, causing them mkre problems, causing customer distrust, causing corporate greed and more problems and resulting in a hard reset all over again!

I know this just a rumour but it makes sense and it's why I do not get why GW leaped into the new player world without bringing back and establishing a reliable income from old players that could last them 10 or 20 years. They could make millions in profits but then one year make £10 less than the year before and they'll spiral out of control in damage control as they over compensate. This would explain why Killteam feels so lacklustre. They probably had a bigger realise planned with some really cool stuff that would have made them a lot. But they blew it instead of just staying on course towards the gold. Kinda reminds me of old GW. XD

Anyway, this could do with being a thread by itself so let's discuss how this relates to the Ork? Do you think they had something orky planned (they are pushing orks in killteam a lot) but maybe due to cut backs to grab that cash they didn't get it?

Also you got a link to that podcast? And a time stamp?