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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Tastyfish wrote:
... megaphone guy is a Clamavus...

Makes sense. The word 'clamare', and it's variations (including the closer clamatus) means "shout out" or "proclaim". It's where we get 'clamour' from.

And Clamato

Yep, my character in Deathwatch RPG was called Decalvare Clamens. Roughly translates as “Bald & Screaming”...

I originally just got Overkill and the Killteam starter to build a GSC gang that would work for KT and Necromunda, but the models keep being awesome, so looks like I have a new army on the cards.

I wonder if at any point they’ll do an asset flip to create some 40k civilians? Could be good for BSF or Necromunda scenarios.

From genestealer cult group FB:

At the open day. Got some hot rules news...
GSC bikers - 14” with -1 to hit.
The new ambush rules... complete overhaul. Blip markers and stuff.
If you have first turn you can decide your layout after deployment, if it’s your opponents turn first you just leave a lot of them as blip markers. You get the markers with the codex. There’s a deep strike blocking bloke. The Nexos lets you move the blip markers around. Sounds fundamentally different in almost every way.
The assassin can have a sniper rifle.
The scenery causes earthquakes and can redeploy your troops anywhere.
Couple more minor things: the units marked by a blip are not subject to moving with heavy weapons penalties when they appear.
There will be six cult traits.
Pauper Princes are in the codex a bit more.
One of the character models is some kind of vox hacker who denies deep strike in some way.

 Jadenim wrote:
Yep, my character in Deathwatch RPG was called Decalvare Clamens. Roughly translates as “Bald & Screaming”...

I originally just got Overkill and the Killteam starter to build a GSC gang that would work for KT and Necromunda, but the models keep being awesome, so looks like I have a new army on the cards.

I wonder if at any point they’ll do an asset flip to create some 40k civilians? Could be good for BSF or Necromunda scenarios.

If you haven't played the Overkill campaign, you're missing out.
It's actually a very decent self-contained game.


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zamerion wrote:
From genestealer cult group FB:

At the open day. Got some hot rules news...
GSC bikers - 14” with -1 to hit.
The new ambush rules... complete overhaul. Blip markers and stuff.
If you have first turn you can decide your layout after deployment, if it’s your opponents turn first you just leave a lot of them as blip markers. You get the markers with the codex. There’s a deep strike blocking bloke. The Nexos lets you move the blip markers around. Sounds fundamentally different in almost every way.
The assassin can have a sniper rifle.
The scenery causes earthquakes and can redeploy your troops anywhere.
Couple more minor things: the units marked by a blip are not subject to moving with heavy weapons penalties when they appear.
There will be six cult traits.
Pauper Princes are in the codex a bit more.
One of the character models is some kind of vox hacker who denies deep strike in some way.

That all sounds amazing. Hoping the character models aren't crazy expensive.

The use of blip markers sounds like a nice callback to Space Hulk, and again, very thematically appropriate.

zamerion wrote:
From genestealer cult group FB:

At the open day. Got some hot rules news...
GSC bikers - 14” with -1 to hit.
The new ambush rules... complete overhaul. Blip markers and stuff.
If you have first turn you can decide your layout after deployment, if it’s your opponents turn first you just leave a lot of them as blip markers. You get the markers with the codex. There’s a deep strike blocking bloke. The Nexos lets you move the blip markers around. Sounds fundamentally different in almost every way.
The assassin can have a sniper rifle.
The scenery causes earthquakes and can redeploy your troops anywhere.
Couple more minor things: the units marked by a blip are not subject to moving with heavy weapons penalties when they appear.
There will be six cult traits.
Pauper Princes are in the codex a bit more.
One of the character models is some kind of vox hacker who denies deep strike in some way.

This sounds exceptional. I'm really hoping it makes them more fun than being glass cannon guard or human Nids...
This release is going to be expensive. Good thing I've got an okay from the wifey. Kids already had Christmas, now it's my turn.

 privateer4hire wrote:


That all sounds amazing. Hoping the character models aren't crazy expensive.

At a guess the characters will be £15 (or local currency equivalent) single blisters. This will get expensive fast.

Bikes that are harder to hit than Ravenwing LOL

More information from facebook

So I was at GW HQ yesterday and whilst I wasn't allowed(!) to actually look at the codex, I got sooo close!
Found out a few bits though (this guy was particularly tight lipped, but others there were more sharing).

Here's what I found out -

* We'll have a weird "blip" system for deployment, like motion detector marks, where we can choose which is what unit when we reveal them (not necessarily on the first turn).
* The map guy allows us to move these markers.
* The gun slinger allows us to reroll misses once he's killed someone.
* The loud speaker guy stops enemy deepstrikers coming down within 12" of him.
* The sniper bike is HQ, the Female Magus is just an alternative Magus model. The other characters are Elite (although not sure).
* Astra Millitarum detachments can be taken, but don't contribute as many (or any?) Command Points, don't get Regimental bonuses, but do get +1 Ld. No AM named characters allowed.
* Baneblades and equivalent can be taken.
* There will be 6 Cult "Cults" with there own rules (like Chapter Tactics/Hive Fleets). This includes Bladed Cog and Pauper Princes.
* There is still one version of Patriarch, but between 6 pychic powers, warlord traits and heirlooms he'll be customisable. One Patriarch per detachment.
* The big frag drill terrain will allow us to cause earthquakes.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Tastyfish wrote:
... megaphone guy is a Clamavus...

Makes sense. The word 'clamare', and it's variations (including the closer clamatus) means "shout out" or "proclaim". It's where we get 'clamour' from.

Would be more fun to call him a 'Proclaimus'...

He’d walk 500 miles to do his job?

Once he wakes up, yes...

I'd also love it if there were a 'Limo' coming out, as I do have some definite ideas on how to use something like that, but it's unlikely, unfortunately.

It's a shame about the Astra Militarum not contributing Command Points, as the mixing between ambushing and non-ambushing forces is a fun combo to have. You can still have it, of course, but it would have been nice for them to be able to work in concert with each other.

I was thinking of using the Ambot as a Sentinel. I just live that new model, and can’t stand the sentinel. I just wish they had included it in the first place. The Ambot fits perfectly with the mining theme the GCS have.

Kendo wrote:
I was thinking of using the Ambot as a Sentinel. I just live that new model, and can’t stand the sentinel. I just wish they had included it in the first place. The Ambot fits perfectly with the mining theme the GCS have.

I didn't realize the ambot was that big. It does fit well thematically, maybe why they went plastic if ambots got snuck into the codex. As for Sentinels, I recently cruised the web looking for aftermarket mod kits. Besides the Forgeworld missile kits (oop) and the drop variant there is nothing out there.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:

 privateer4hire wrote:


That all sounds amazing. Hoping the character models aren't crazy expensive.

At a guess the characters will be £15 (or local currency equivalent) single blisters. This will get expensive fast.

Or a single box of heroes like the goblins just got.

The Ambot is on a 40mm base, it's nowhere near big enough to fill the role of a Sentinel, sadly.

Would make for a fine alternative to Ogryn, especially if you use GSC as regular guard stand-ins.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He’d walk 500 miles to do his job?

But would he walk 500 more?

I'm hoping the CP bit isn't accurate.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
I'm hoping the CP bit isn't accurate.

I do!

This isn't Custodes or Marines or Knights that will be unable to fill Brigades on their own. GSC, currently, are pointed very similarly to Guard. Filling out a Brigade will not be hard for them to do with their base book.

If it is, could also be a sign of things to come in the world of CPs?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If it is, could also be a sign of things to come in the world of CPs?

That's my gripe. Having it be for only them is awkward. If it impacts everyone, sure. Go for it.

At the end of the day I'm not gonna lose my mind if my Emperor's wrath ally only gives me 3 CP instead of 5 or something, but if it's 0 I'd be a little bummed, especially if Nids finction with full CP as an ally.

Though, if that is the case, I'm buying some Hive Guard.

I’m planning to add three Manticores to my GSC, just for some alpha strike oomph. CPs are nice, but not critical to my nefarious plan. So I may not be seeing the wider picture.

I was more or less planning to add a few Wyverns with a Battalion.

Not the end of the world either way, just slightly less bonus.

 Cephalobeard wrote:

That's my gripe. Having it be for only them is awkward. If it impacts everyone, sure. Go for it.

But therein lies the issue...
What other faction gets the ability to replace a <Regiment>/<Chapter>/<Whatever> tag for a faction with one that allows for them to take a Detachment with anything barring named characters?


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 Cephalobeard wrote:
I was more or less planning to add a few Wyverns with a Battalion.

Not the end of the world either way, just slightly less bonus.

And there it is. You don't want to add an Emperor's Wrath Artillery Battery--you want to bring a CP battery.

You could do the same thing with a Spearhead Detachment, you just don't get as many CPs from it.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m planning to add three Manticores to my GSC, just for some alpha strike oomph. CPs are nice, but not critical to my nefarious plan. So I may not be seeing the wider picture.

With the addition of the Specialist Detachments(notably Emperor's Wrath, which allows one of your artillery pieces to forego a round of shooting to instead make it so a target can't Overwatch and halves its Movement value--Manticores need not apply!) that Guard got, expect to see more nonsense showing up with regards to Brood Brothers.

No offense, Kanluwen, but I know better than to bother trying to argue the point with you.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If it is, could also be a sign of things to come in the world of CPs?

I hope it changes at some point. In my mind, CPs should be rewards for purer armies, so that they’re more able to do thematic things. Multi-faction armies already have advantages, they don’t need more of them.

I still plan on fielding some AM. I figured there’d be no regiment rule or that it’d be garbage, so no biggie.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
No offense, Kanluwen, but I know better than to bother trying to argue the point with you.

Sorry if it felt like I was picking on you specifically over it. I'm just not sure how people didn't see this coming.


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 gorgon wrote:

I still plan on fielding some AM. I figured there’d be no regiment rule or that it’d be garbage, so no biggie.

I was surprised they kept Brood Brothers at all. I figured they'd just bring more of the Guard book into the GSC one.

It's fluffy and promotes buying the AM Codex and units full-tilt. Also means that player may expand their Imperial army at some point too if they are so inclined.