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 Argive wrote:
Ok that trailer looks Good...

Question: Who could they have cast as a modern day equivalent to sting?

Zendaya.

Or do you mean as Feyd Rautha specifically?

Jared Leto has the ego for it.

Yeah, leto would make a good fayde.

one flaw in the DDL version was the fact people looked too good in it. They were guerrilla fighters on a desert planet and everyone usually looked expertly coiffed and made up as if they'd just stepped out of a salon.

Ok, some of the background characters looked properly dry and dusty, but not the stars

That's one thing the SFC did right. I could believe that their paul atraedies was a guerrilla leader, he looked the part. The paul in the DDL movie looked like he spent more time getting his skin moisturized that fighting.

They should have their entire faces covered on the surface, except their eyes. Movies have to take some liberties.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
They should have their entire faces covered on the surface, except their eyes. Movies have to take some liberties.

What you just typed reminded me of some movie trivia i'll share here.

When cameron made "the abyss" he had the issue of the actor's faces being visible in scuba gear since so much was filmed underwater. He conceived of and had people create a full face revealing scuba mask that was safe and effective in actual underwater settings.

His tech team also invented a way to safely fill scuba tanks underwater while in use to speed up filming.

Cameron asked the navy for advisors and they sent two experts to help him with getting things at least passably close to right, they were so impressed with the diving technology created for the movie, which the navy did not have, they asked for the blueprints. Cameron did them one better and sent them home with the actual working equipment and the creator's contact info. The navy was interested in both designs for underwater operations.

Thats interesting to read about Cameron. I know he is really into his deep water exploration, I had read that at one point he held the record for the furthest depth reached underwater by a manned submersible, using some custom built submarine.

I don't know if stuff like that is why we are still waiting for Avatar 2 !

https://twitter.com/bhboehlert/status/1303886385124962304?s=21

 trexmeyer wrote:
Jared Leto has the ego for it.

While casting someone who is literally named Leto as a Harkonnen could be worth it simply for the lol factor, and while Jared certainly has the touch of otherworldly haughtiness suited for the role of Feyd, he is simply too old.

He's older than Jason Isaacs and twice Chalament's age.


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 Matt Swain wrote:


That's one thing the SFC did right. I could believe that their paul atraedies was a guerrilla leader, he looked the part.

If we overlook the rather questionable availability of hair gel in the Arrakeen desert.

Am I the only one who thought the movie was garbage compared to the sci fi version? (looks at reviews and sales) er..nope.

I adore the sci fi channel version. I recognise there are various issues with it that would probably put a lot of people off but I love the whole half-play/half-film setup of it and Ian McNeice as the Baron is one of my favourite performances of all time.

Even with the new trailer, the whole time I was thinking of the sci fi channel opening.

Arrakis... Dune... Desert Planet

One thing that I already like more in both the Lynch and the SyFy version are the colors and the baroque feeling of the sets and costumes. The new movie seems to consist mainly of different shades of grey, white and beige. Which I guess is fitting for Arrakis but not so much Imperial society as a whole. The uniforms also seem to be designed with much more practicality in mind than the other version's Harkonnen uniforms both of which went out their way to ramp up the bad guy factor.



Altough the 2020 Harkonnens still look comically evil out of uniform.

The miniseries handled various aspects of the story much better overall IMO. And yeah, that was a MUCH better rendition of the Baron. Of course, the miniseries creators still had trouble understanding that the Kwisatz Haderach CAN'T MAKE WATER SPRING FORTH.

As I've said, there aren't many bigger Dune or David Lynch fans than me. But I don't think it's a good movie...at all, lol. And it's not just because of the studio.

Regarding Feyd...I dunno, doesn't seem like it's that hard of a casting job. Just need a good young actor that can project some charisma and menace. Sting was fun stunt casting, but he wasn't a very good actor.

I am beginning to think that Dune is unfilmable while doing it's source material justice.

The new trailer looks great and I WILL watch this. But Dune is full of iconic dialog that when said out loud is just ridiculous. Comics have the same issue. Lines in the books that read as awesome and incredible that when people try to translate them as dialog in film and games i just.... terrible. I think this movie is going to have some crazy cringy moments that just take you right out of the movie.

 Lance845 wrote:
I am beginning to think that Dune is unfilmable while doing it's source material justice.

The new trailer looks great and I WILL watch this. But Dune is full of iconic dialog that when said out loud is just ridiculous. Comics have the same issue. Lines in the books that read as awesome and incredible that when people try to translate them as dialog in film and games i just.... terrible. I think this movie is going to have some crazy cringy moments that just take you right out of the movie.

The dialogue is usually in a pretty foreign register, which isn't surprising given the setting, and there are very many passages where everything stops so that characters can ponder a situation, think about their past and future, or analyze minute facial expressions and subtle word choices in order to determine someone's true intentions. It's great reading, though.

I know I’ve seen the Sci Fi version of Dune, but I don’t remember it.

 gorgon wrote:
The miniseries handled various aspects of the story much better overall IMO. And yeah, that was a MUCH better rendition of the Baron. Of course, the miniseries creators still had trouble understanding that the Kwisatz Haderach CAN'T MAKE WATER SPRING FORTH.

The bit at 4:00 looks like he's having a slash, especially with the expression on his face; "aaaaahhhhh...."

And here is the new trailer with the Lynch score.

 Lance845 wrote:
I am beginning to think that Dune is unfilmable while doing it's source material justice.

The new trailer looks great and I WILL watch this. But Dune is full of iconic dialog that when said out loud is just ridiculous. Comics have the same issue. Lines in the books that read as awesome and incredible that when people try to translate them as dialog in film and games i just.... terrible. I think this movie is going to have some crazy cringy moments that just take you right out of the movie.

A lot of the same stuff could be said for LOTR though, and that worked out. The dialogue in those books is about as non-naturalistic as it gets. So they changed it.

Speaking of changes, that reminds me...

Is there a Gurney in this? I see pretty much everyone else in the trailer, but no one I can identify as Gurney, though a _lot_ of Duncan (especially given that his appearances in Dune are few and relatively trivial compared to later books)

I'm wondering if they combined the two roles (as they're sort of redundant), or if its just about adding 'star power' to the trailer.

Yes, he is played by Josh Brolin - hes in the trailer.

Thanos doesn't strike me as a good choice actually, but I don't like the actor's acting in general.

IMO not too many current actors do grizzled better than Brolin, and Gurney is a grizzled kind of guy. Patrick Stewart always seemed too aristocratic to me. The actor in the miniseries was a solid fit.

Yeah, 'Grizzled retired ex mercenary' works. - I'm thinking more Brolin as Cable, rather than Brolin as Thanos.

 gorgon wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
I am beginning to think that Dune is unfilmable while doing it's source material justice.

The new trailer looks great and I WILL watch this. But Dune is full of iconic dialog that when said out loud is just ridiculous. Comics have the same issue. Lines in the books that read as awesome and incredible that when people try to translate them as dialog in film and games i just.... terrible. I think this movie is going to have some crazy cringy moments that just take you right out of the movie.

A lot of the same stuff could be said for LOTR though, and that worked out. The dialogue in those books is about as non-naturalistic as it gets. So they changed it.

Yeah but I wouldn't say any of the dialog in LotR is iconic like it is in Dune. Fear is the mind killer." "The spice must flow." "My name is a killing word." I don't think anyone can say "My name is a killing word." and be taken seriously. Unless you are talking about that scene from venture brothers.

"What is Brock doing?!"

"Maybe he's killing them with words?"

"Maybe his name is a killing word?!"

 gorgon wrote:
IMO not too many current actors do grizzled better than Brolin, and Gurney is a grizzled kind of guy. Patrick Stewart always seemed too aristocratic to me. The actor in the miniseries was a solid fit.

I would have liked Mickey Rourke as Gurney, in regards to being "an ugly lump of a man"

 Lance845 wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
I am beginning to think that Dune is unfilmable while doing it's source material justice.

The new trailer looks great and I WILL watch this. But Dune is full of iconic dialog that when said out loud is just ridiculous. Comics have the same issue. Lines in the books that read as awesome and incredible that when people try to translate them as dialog in film and games i just.... terrible. I think this movie is going to have some crazy cringy moments that just take you right out of the movie.

A lot of the same stuff could be said for LOTR though, and that worked out. The dialogue in those books is about as non-naturalistic as it gets. So they changed it.

Yeah but I wouldn't say any of the dialog in LotR is iconic like it is in Dune. Fear is the mind killer." "The spice must flow." "My name is a killing word." I don't think anyone can say "My name is a killing word." and be taken seriously. Unless you are talking about that scene from venture brothers.

"What is Brock doing?!"

"Maybe he's killing them with words?"

"Maybe his name is a killing word?!"

That line is from the Lynch film.

IIRC, the line from the novel is "My name has become a killing word", after Paul sees Fremen shouting his name as they kill Harkonnens. Don't really see the big deal with that, but YMMV.


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 Esmer wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
IMO not too many current actors do grizzled better than Brolin, and Gurney is a grizzled kind of guy. Patrick Stewart always seemed too aristocratic to me. The actor in the miniseries was a solid fit.

I would have liked Mickey Rourke as Gurney, in regards to being "an ugly lump of a man"

That's a solid choice.

 Esmer wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
IMO not too many current actors do grizzled better than Brolin, and Gurney is a grizzled kind of guy. Patrick Stewart always seemed too aristocratic to me. The actor in the miniseries was a solid fit.

I would have liked Mickey Rourke as Gurney, in regards to being "an ugly lump of a man"

How about Danny Trejo?

 Matt Swain wrote:

 Esmer wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
IMO not too many current actors do grizzled better than Brolin, and Gurney is a grizzled kind of guy. Patrick Stewart always seemed too aristocratic to me. The actor in the miniseries was a solid fit.

I would have liked Mickey Rourke as Gurney, in regards to being "an ugly lump of a man"

How about Danny Trejo?

Too much.

Dacre Montgomery for Feyd?

 gorgon wrote:

You may or may not be right about its success. But is it a millennial thing to demand that every film be light and humorous?

Nobody was suggesting that every movie has to be light and humourous, I was suggesting that dry and dark sci fi specifically might not do well with mainstream audiences. If you look at a list of the highest grossing sci fi films, you get quite a way down the list before you hit anything particularly serious.