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2019/05/01 16:26:26
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
I hope that House Glover faces justice for not answering the call next episode, if they weren't killed offscreen. Was their castle on the route of the Night King's march?
It was a pretty awesome moment when he was humbled by Lyanna Mormont, just to have him say "Yeah, there was some fine print to my mea culpa 'stand with House Stark' speech, we won't be attending your Night King party. Best of luck! Oh and uh, The North Remembers and all that!"
There was a part of me that was hoping he would charge in with his bannermen at some point, mainly during the moment when Jon Snow is about to get swamped by the Night King's newly raised goons, but that would just be another Knights of the Vale-esque to the rescue scenario.
Dude needs to die.
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2019/05/01 18:34:05
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
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2019/05/01 19:56:56
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
nels1031 wrote: I hope that House Glover faces justice for not answering the call next episode, if they weren't killed offscreen. Was their castle on the route of the Night King's march?
It was a pretty awesome moment when he was humbled by Lyanna Mormont, just to have him say "Yeah, there was some fine print to my mea culpa 'stand with House Stark' speech, we won't be attending your Night King party. Best of luck! Oh and uh, The North Remembers and all that!"
There was a part of me that was hoping he would charge in with his bannermen at some point, mainly during the moment when Jon Snow is about to get swamped by the Night King's newly raised goons, but that would just be another Knights of the Vale-esque to the rescue scenario.
Dude needs to die.
Agreed, he's denied the call twice. No third chances. Chop his head and take his men for the march south, on pain of dragon.
2019/05/02 02:10:48
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
infinite_array wrote: Victory over the millenia old evil at the cost of only five main characters, and only two of whom that really mattered!
(Plus tens of thousands of soldiers and a few hundred civilians, but who's counting?)
The episode kind of felt like fast food, the better kind? Like, it tasted alright going down but it's not filling, and left a bad aftertaste.
And yeah, it feels like any battle or conflict after this is just... wastful? They literally just beat the world ending evil. Now go take your dragons and turn Cersei into a b!tch-flambe. Show over.
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2019/05/02 02:33:18
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Continues the super cool set pieces with crappier writing approach they've been taking for a while.
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2019/05/02 12:19:24
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Meh I still don't see the "Crappier" writing that everyone is talking about. Cliches are cliches because....well, they actually do happen in real life.
That's sort of the problem I imagine GRRM is having writing the books. He so desperately does not want cliches to be how the story is told, he wants to subvert the genre and do stuff different so much so that he has written himself into a corner. The only way out of the corner is, unfortunately for him and fans, are cliches that will no doubt be in the books and cause delicious tears to someone like me who thinks most people are being far too nitpicky.
I mean I get it, we were all traumatized by the Red Wedding. We desperately want our hearts to be torn out again just like that and nothing has come close to that since. Even though, realistically, it would have been smarter to capture Robb and hold him hostage as politcal prisoners are always worth more alive then dead.
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2019/05/02 14:10:18
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
GRRM wrote himself into a corner because he spent a couple books developing new plotlines that he now has to resolve in addition to his intended story. And I suspect he'll still manage to untangle it without relying on out-of-the-blue 'then everybody blow'd up' moments. I suspect Tyrion will be more interesting than the zero he's been in the last few seasons. I predict characters will have motivations and plans that actually show some smarts and sense. I predict that more of the prophecies and mysteries will have payoffs.
GRRM is hardly perfect, but if you can't watch an episode from the first few seasons and see noticeable differences in characters, dialogue and story from what the show has become...I don't even know what to say.
I'd say you can see that same difference between the material from the first 3 books and the material from 4 and 5 in the show. 4 and 5 material was way, way worse than current showrunner stuff. But its conveniently forgotten. When discussing writing quality.
Also the cathedral explosion is actually totally in line with GRRM and where he seemed to be going in the books. I cant imagine that wasn't a note. It seems to be missed that hes been part of all of this while they are writing and shooting.
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2019/05/02 18:50:43
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Hulksmash wrote: I'd say you can see that same difference between the material from the first 3 books and the material from 4 and 5 in the show. 4 and 5 material was way, way worse than current showrunner stuff. But its conveniently forgotten. When discussing writing quality.
Also the cathedral explosion is actually totally in line with GRRM and where he seemed to be going in the books. I cant imagine that wasn't a note. It seems to be missed that hes been part of all of this while they are writing and shooting.
Agreed totally - Books 4 and 5 are truely awful - in fact much in line with the last episode.
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I will say that was possibly one of the greatest episodes of TV that I have ever seen.
Where do I start?
The use of darkness and colour - I admit I watched on a great TV and in a dark room (I can understand a tablet in broad daylight might not have been ideal but.. well... ) - the doomed Dolthraki charge with the fading torches, the fire, the horrible tide of living dead (reminded me of the only good element of World War Z), the dragons fighting in the storm. It was breathtaking. Then the final battle within the courtyard, dead foes and allies getting to their feet again, with the hellish red light in the background.
The end of character arcs - Mormont and Theon, who almost made it to the end bar a couple of episodes, the Red Lady who had reached the end of her path and could finally die. Really powerful stuff.
There was the perfect opportunity to go all 'Hollywood' and have John Snow fight the NK one on one when they'd both been dismounted, culminating in John's heroic victory. Instead, the NK thinks "no thanks, you're not getting anywhere near me and having a chance to kill me. Have some of my followers."
Then the final attack by Ayra, with the Wight Champion's hair whisping and turning slightly to one side as she stealth attacks, and then she rolls a 'critical hit' and pulls off an awesome special move (loved the section, Metal Gear Solid-style, where she was sneaking through the keep), right on the cusp of absolute defeat.
So .. wow. I loved it!
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I still think the fan theory that Bran = Night King still has merit and that maybe the Night King story line isn't over yet.
Essentially when Bran did his timey wimey time warg he somehow got a part of himself "stuck" within the Night King.
They are permanently connected through time. So current Bran is actually Bran the Builder and it was Bran whispering "burn them all" to the mad king although he was trying to warn them of the White Walkers.
Anyway my theory is that Bran actually intended to die at the end of the battle of Winterfell. That he set himself up as bait and had every intention of being killed by the Night King which would somehow stop the link between them and kill both of them.
He had foreseen it as the only way to end the cycle but for some reason he hadn't seen Arya and Bran was as surprised to see her as the Night KIng was.
At the start of the battle the NIght King is nowhere to be seen, he doesn't appear until Bran wargs and it looks as though Bran actually brings the Night King to him byt directing him with the ravens.
Bran doesn't stop warging until the NIght King is in the Godswood.
I don't think Bran was doing nothing, somehow he is the Night King and actually was involved in the battle itself.
So my theory is that Bran set everything in motion for himself to be killed by the Night King to stop the never ending cycle started by the Children of the Forest and wiping out the History of man so they could start again but Arya ctually, rather than saving the day, has messed this all up.
Anyway, that's probably a load of old nonsense but I still can't shake the fact that they even changed the look of the NIght KIng to look like Bran after he became the 3 Eyed Raven....
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2019/05/03 11:06:16
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Why would Bran be surprised to see Arya? He gave her the knife she used to kill the King. He totally knew the future and Doctor Stranged it and set it up so the Night King would be killed the way he was.
2019/05/03 11:22:39
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
AduroT wrote: Why would Bran be surprised to see Arya? He gave her the knife she used to kill the King. He totally knew the future and Doctor Stranged it and set it up so the Night King would be killed the way he was.
I'm thinking that maybe Arya was supposed to kill the Night King after he had killed Bran? I guess my theory isn't that well thought out but I think maybe it was all "too easy" and din't go to plan as it should have. I am probably totally wrong though, lol.
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2019/05/03 12:25:42
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Jeez man all the points in this article can easily be explained/debunked by actually watching the show.
1. There was a 5 minute sequence of Arya Assasins Creeding her way through the Library in the very same episode.
2. Why wasn't the body count higher in any of the battles in the show? No major characters died in the Battle of the Blackwater, Only Ygritte and Pyp died in the Watchers on the Wall, and no major characters died in the Battle of the Bastards
3. The shows not over yet
4. The Night king brings the Winter with him, its in all the legends mentioned about the Night King and the Original Long Night. It's mentioned several times in the show
5. Maybe he did? Or Maybe he was a servant of the Lord of Light and he was protected by the fact he is already technically a Zombie to the lord of Fire
6. Varys entire storyline has been dropped and has never been a part of the show. The Blackfyre theory is not a part of the show so I'll admit he is kind of useless. As for Tyrion the show isn't over yet and, as I've mentioned earlier in this thread the reason for Tyrion not being as sharp as he used to be is he murder of his father really messed him up. He said it as much last season, He does not want to be the ruin of his family he does not want to be the monster everyone thinks he is because he is a Dwarf. It's why, instead of bringing Fire and Blood to Kings Landing, which was the smarter thing to do I'll agree, he went through all these other more complicated schemes that Cersei is competent enough to deal with. Now that Jamie is there and there is a chance to save his family I think he will finally get his head in the game.
7. Well, this I will agree with. It looked cool
8. She was a priest of the Lord of Light. She could see visions in the flames and knew she would die in Westeros. She said as much last season when she spoke with Varys so this was just the end of her vision
9. Man this one will take far too long for me to explain and I got to get to work, but I'll get back to it I promise
10.Because it worked? The magic kept the Walkers in the north until they were able to destroy it. Also its not entirely clear the Bran the builder built the wall. In the show he probably did but the books hint that maybe the Others built the wall and Bran just built the castles next to the wall.
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2019/05/03 16:26:51
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Everything with Little Griff feels like a Danzo to me. A character thrown in when the author realizes his audience solved the surprise before the reveal to hopefully seed doubt but mostly just makes it more obvious and drags out the story for no reason.
2019/05/03 16:38:11
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Commodus Leitdorf wrote: As for Tyrion the show isn't over yet and, as I've mentioned earlier in this thread the reason for Tyrion not being as sharp as he used to be is he murder of his father really messed him up. He said it as much last season, He does not want to be the ruin of his family he does not want to be the monster everyone thinks he is because he is a Dwarf. It's why, instead of bringing Fire and Blood to Kings Landing, which was the smarter thing to do I'll agree, he went through all these other more complicated schemes that Cersei is competent enough to deal with. Now that Jamie is there and there is a chance to save his family I think he will finally get his head in the game
I feel like you have to be kidding me here. That might be your own head canon (along with other things you mention), but you can't tell me the showrunners sat in a room and discussed making Tyrion less witty, less intelligent, less important, and less interesting overall as a way to explore the character's trauma.
The real answer here is that Tyrion is GRRM's creation and a character he's highly dialed into, and the showrunners just aren't. Moreover, they're motivated to boil the story down to its most basic conflicts in order to wrap it up ASAP, and Tyrion as a plotter/schemer/maneuverer-type character who operates on the boundries of those conflicts is going to suffer in that kind of storytelling. These aren't high crimes. And it's okay to say that this character has worked poorly in the story the showrunners are telling without having to back into excuses for it.
Hulksmash wrote: I'd say you can see that same difference between the material from the first 3 books and the material from 4 and 5 in the show. 4 and 5 material was way, way worse than current showrunner stuff. But its conveniently forgotten. When discussing writing quality.
I think there are very different differences. The past few seasons of the show have been extremely reductive in nature, while the problems with books 4 and 5 involved too much expansion of the story.
While I don’t disagree, I will say that Tyrion hasn’t been nearly as on point in the books since his fathers death either. I don’t really think it’s intentional there either....
2019/05/03 20:21:31
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Jeez man all the points in this article can easily be explained/debunked by actually watching the show.
1. There was a 5 minute sequence of Arya Assasins Creeding her way through the Library in the very same episode.
2. Why wasn't the body count higher in any of the battles in the show? No major characters died in the Battle of the Blackwater, Only Ygritte and Pyp died in the Watchers on the Wall, and no major characters died in the Battle of the Bastards
3. The shows not over yet
4. The Night king brings the Winter with him, its in all the legends mentioned about the Night King and the Original Long Night. It's mentioned several times in the show
5. Maybe he did? Or Maybe he was a servant of the Lord of Light and he was protected by the fact he is already technically a Zombie to the lord of Fire
6. Varys entire storyline has been dropped and has never been a part of the show. The Blackfyre theory is not a part of the show so I'll admit he is kind of useless. As for Tyrion the show isn't over yet and, as I've mentioned earlier in this thread the reason for Tyrion not being as sharp as he used to be is he murder of his father really messed him up. He said it as much last season, He does not want to be the ruin of his family he does not want to be the monster everyone thinks he is because he is a Dwarf. It's why, instead of bringing Fire and Blood to Kings Landing, which was the smarter thing to do I'll agree, he went through all these other more complicated schemes that Cersei is competent enough to deal with. Now that Jamie is there and there is a chance to save his family I think he will finally get his head in the game.
7. Well, this I will agree with. It looked cool
8. She was a priest of the Lord of Light. She could see visions in the flames and knew she would die in Westeros. She said as much last season when she spoke with Varys so this was just the end of her vision
9. Man this one will take far too long for me to explain and I got to get to work, but I'll get back to it I promise
10.Because it worked? The magic kept the Walkers in the north until they were able to destroy it. Also its not entirely clear the Bran the builder built the wall. In the show he probably did but the books hint that maybe the Others built the wall and Bran just built the castles next to the wall.
I am fine by Arya's part and tbh deaths of main cast were unlikely but they could have done it much better.
I defy anyone (in or out of universe) to make sense of the pathetic attempt at the battle tactics of the alliance. Apparently it looking cool is all people wanted.....well thats all they got - a few sequences that had great visual appeal and made zero sense whilst the rest was just blurry people fighiting each other in darkness and then in a snowstorm - doubtless saving a fortune on CGI.
Bran - I neither care about or think will matter any further - he is porbbaly going to be a link to the prequal.
I did quite like the AVP films but again diskliked the fight scenes when you could not see who was who, its weak.
Varys and Tyrion may have something to do but in a war against the dead they have little to do - what they should have been shown doing was building alliacnes with others and likely with the Dothraki (who the defenders of the stupiduty of the Alliance battle tactics say were useuless anyway so lets kill them off )- keeping an eye on Cersei.
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The showrunners did, in the end, just keep embracing spectacle, a fast pace, and conventionality over characters and conversations. We're talking about a writing team whose resolution to the Sparrows storyline was straight Michael Bay. That isn't really a bad thing, it's just different. I think I'd be okay it if the entire series had an action-spectacle take on the source material. Instead, it feels like a different show from those early seasons. iBut c'est la vie. I think GoT at this point is what HBO needs it to be...big onscreen, braincandy, crowdpleasing, and almost over.
Nah nah nah, you're not appreciating the sheer genius of the TV show guys here, see, it's not conventional at all because the people doing the heroic winning bits have lady-parts.
What we have here is another Rose Tycho situation - uncultured plebs might see the actions of all the characters that are superficially similar and conclude that they are, in fact, similar, but proper thinking people know that ACKSHOOLEE male characters engaging in heroic tropes are badwrong and dumb and failures, but female characters doing it are goodright and pure and awesome forever and ever.
At least that's how I'm supposed to see the episode according to a couple of reviews I read. Honestly at this stage I'm hoping Dany heel turns just to enjoy the implosion of the smug Yas Khaleesi crowd.
I don't claim to know if it was show-writers or GRRM doing it, but this battle ripped off Tolkien a lot. It was very much like battle of Pelennor Field. There we have the unbeatable Witch King, and Tolkien teases us with a fight between him and Gandalf, the most powerful of the heroes. But no, they end up not fighting. What is this bait-and-switch! Alternatively, maybe Aragorn could face him? No, he is also busy elsewhere. Gimli? Legolas? Anyone? No, instead WK is stabbed from behind by a comic relief hobbit and killed by a girl.
So basically here writers decided to save in casting costs and combine characters of hobbit and the girl.
Of course, Tolkien later does same thing with main villain itself. All the big heroes just stand there being a distraction while somebody who nobody counted on, finishes the job.
Is that anti-climatic writing? I do not think so.
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2019/05/05 18:37:00
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
As GRRM said himself. The worst insult to any form of art or artist is to be ignored. Like, love or loathe it. GoT is a massive success. The fact that nobody actually knows how it will end, that there are so many strong feelings and theories coming out of the wazoo... shows that it is still fantastic entertainment.
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2019/05/05 22:25:08
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Hollow wrote: As GRRM said himself. The worst insult to any form of art or artist is to be ignored. Like, love or loathe it. GoT is a massive success. The fact that nobody actually knows how it will end, that there are so many strong feelings and theories coming out of the wazoo... shows that it is still fantastic entertainment.
Well actually the ending has been leaked and based on the general track record for the particular poster and GoT leaks in general looks to be true. At a minimum e4 has already been leaked.
Leak isn't in first spoiler just my reaction.
Spoiler:
If what I read is true I actually like it to a degree, but all 3 sub Reddits are busy having meltdowns over it.
Actual leaks in this spoiler.
Spoiler:
Verified with footage:
Euron snipes Rhaegal with ship mounted Ballista and kills him.
Missandei is captured somehow and beheaded by the Mountain in front of Dany and Greyworm as well as some others.
Brianne and Jaime do the deed.
Not verified:
Dany and Greyworm lose their collective gak and go HAM on King's Landing. Jon kills them both and goes back to the wall.
Bran reveals that the WW threat isn't 100% over. No further details in the leaks.
The Wildlings get lands/castles in the Gift/Wall.
Jaime sets a trap for killing Cersei.
Yara offs Euron.
Either Bran or Sansa (conflicting leaks) becomes king/queen with Bran/Sansa/Tyrion/Bronn/Varys on the council.
My take is that a lot of people are saying this is just tragic and not bittersweet, but consider the following:
Dragons might be cool, but they really need to be off in the wilderness away from people or dead. They're too much of a threat to the general population even if under control.
Dany has never been the ideal leader of a free people. She's been a conqueror since early on and that may be fun to root for her, but her love and respect for the 'little people' is grossly exaggerated.
Jon has no interest in ruling. He'd honestly be better off dying. After what he's been through even before s8 he needs rest and therapy.
Any ruler is better than Cersei and someone like Sansa (hopefully not Bran) would be ideal. She's actually suffered under the hands of people in power and seems less than keen on causing more suffering.
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2019/05/06 02:34:30
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Don't know how I feel about this one. Felt like it was better than the last few, but maybe that's because my expectations are lower?
Spoiler:
I did have one major issue. How the feth do you ambush a dragon on the open ocean in broad daylight? Also, was Hawkeye the one operating those siege weapons? They hit with every single shot on that first dragon. Yet, somehow, cannot hit Drogon even once when Dany flies directly at them. I really liked the scene with Sansa and the Hound, I thought that was very well done. The opening scene with Gendry was pretty awkward. I get what Dany was trying to do, but the scene felt very forced. Shook my head at Jon asking the Stark sisters to swear not to tell anyone his secret, but all in all enjoyed the episode.
2019/05/06 02:50:15
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Good episode, and a few shocking deaths and alot of goodbyes.
Spoiler:
the bulk of the goodbyes felt forced to me. Bronn just rolling out instead of seeing Tyrions promises through? Jon leaving Ghost hit me in the feels, would’ve preferred he died in the field and was on the pyres with the others. Made me hug my pooch and the puppy I’m fostering.
Only issue I had was what creeping-deth87 already covered.
At least Tormund can get sloppy seconds if he positions himself for the rebound!
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2019/05/06 04:28:48
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
While I enjoyed the generally grim and depressing nature of most of the episode, with regards to the dragons & bolts...
Spoiler:
Am I the only one wondering why Daenerys didn't just wheel around on her last dragon and burn the Ironborn fleet from the flanks and rear? The bolt throwers look to have relatively limited angles of fire (even if mounted on 360* traverse mounts) due to sails/masts/terrain/other ships as they traveled in tight formation through that narrow route between the islands, and largely stuck firing forward. The way that was presented really bothered me.
More to the point, WW2 crew served anti-aircraft autocannons throwing out hundreds of rounds a minute with centralized fire control couldn't land hits on moving targets in 3 dimensions with that level of accuracy (or power in some cases, the damage those bolts inflicted on ships would make a 40mm Bofors blush), how on earth are these bolts so accurate?
EDIT: also, the end scene in front of the walls. Daenerys' entire party and last Dragon is within range of hundreds of archers and tons of bolt throwers...why didn't Cersei make use of them and end things there if Daenerys was going to put herself in that situation?
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2019/05/06 05:36:08
Subject: Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Hollow wrote: As GRRM said himself. The worst insult to any form of art or artist is to be ignored. Like, love or loathe it. GoT is a massive success. The fact that nobody actually knows how it will end, that there are so many strong feelings and theories coming out of the wazoo... shows that it is still fantastic entertainment.
By this metric everything is good and successful entertainment. That said something can be extremely popular and have a massive fanbase while also being incredible garbage. In fact most things are.
Anyway, every character in this episode acted in a way that was ridiculous and stupid. Ummmm highlights of the episode. Ummmm, I didn't mind Gendry getting promoted. He shows zero promise as a lord but I like the fan service.
2019/05/06 05:41:25
Subject: Re:Game of Thrones Season 8. Speculation and spoilers.
Vaktathi wrote: While I enjoyed the generally grim and depressing nature of most of the episode, with regards to the dragons & bolts...
Spoiler:
Am I the only one wondering why Daenerys didn't just wheel around on her last dragon and burn the Ironborn fleet from the flanks and rear? The bolt throwers look to have relatively limited angles of fire (even if mounted on 360* traverse mounts) due to sails/masts/terrain/other ships as they traveled in tight formation through that narrow route between the islands, and largely stuck firing forward. The way that was presented really bothered me.
More to the point, WW2 crew served anti-aircraft autocannons throwing out hundreds of rounds a minute with centralized fire control couldn't land hits on moving targets in 3 dimensions with that level of accuracy (or power in some cases, the damage those bolts inflicted on ships would make a 40mm Bofors blush), how on earth are these bolts so accurate?
EDIT: also, the end scene in front of the walls. Daenerys' entire party and last Dragon is within range of hundreds of archers and tons of bolt throwers...why didn't Cersei make use of them and end things there if Daenerys was going to put herself in that situation?
Regarding your edit:
Spoiler:
I thought the same. Maybe flags of truce/parlay are sacred? Like “guest rights” are sacred, that only the degenerate Freys/Boltons would actively participate in a violation of them. Cersei could have just been repaying the favor for Daenerys not just torching her and her crew at their previous parlay.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm