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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So what else went up? Was it all Forge World?

No. Ogre characters from 30 to 32,50 Euro, I think normal Ogres and Ironguts went up too, but not sure.
Haven't looked any further.

   
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Up to 10 euros increase on older FW products, from what it seems.

Realm of Battle boards now 124, used to be 120.
Imperialis Landing Pad - 107, was 100.
Breacher Squad - 48, used to be 45...

LOLOL, it appears new models also got hit. Sanguinius now 105 euros... 105 euros for a single fething miniature, damn it.

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Warhammer Underworlds warbands are all still $30 . Glad I went and bought six of the last 9 I needed yesterday though.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Yet they're still fulfilling a function - and can, in a pinch, sit on an objective, making your opponent work slightly harder for it (and ever so slightly harder).

But Night Gobbos Nos 21-60? Yeah. They literally played no point in any battle, ever. 11-20 (assuming one had armed them with Spears) only ever provided 2 pips of Combat Res, for maxing out your Rank Bonus.

So whilst similar wastes of pounds exist in 40k and AoS (there's always something there that just gets annihilated), they are least fulfil some function - even if it's Loyal 32esque CP Tax.


That's just drawing an arbitrary line where use ends and uselessness begins. Those extra gobbos allow you to horde up and get more attacks. Those extra gobbos can provide extra combat resolution bonus. Those extra gobbos increase the size of the unit and thus board control. Those extra gobbos fight if flanked. In less exciting news, those extra gobbos help templates hit more and easier.

You are of course free to attribute more value to some uses than others. If that's how you feel, that's how you feel.

Me, I'm not seeing it. Loyal 32, to go with that example, are a resource generator and while you're bringing them you may as well sit them on an objective or screen something. But do you actually expect them to do anything amazing? Do you specifically buy them because you expect them do anything amazing? In a way I feel better about Fantasy regiments because you look at your models as a single unit, and adding more models adds to the group effort. Those gobbos will always be there when things work out for you. Well, the survivors anyway. Whereas the Loyal 32 exist apart from the units that benefit from the CP they generate. You could buy the Loyal 32 and not set them up and just enjoy the CP benefits on other units that you actually want to play just as much, whether those Guardsmen are there or not.

A better comparison in my mind is one of those few things where 8th ed is actually an improvement over the last edition. Previously you bought your Tactical Squad for the special or heavy weapon and oftentimes the Marines with bolters fulfilled the same role as extra wounds as their Fantasy counterparts. These days you may freely split fire. It's no longer actively detrimental to bring ten Marines in a squad over five (meta concerns aside). You buy an extra Marine, and he gets to fight. You buy two, they both get to fight. That's something 8th ed got right and I'd much rather spend money on those extra Marines than a resource generator. Yet the game is designed to immensely reward the latter, while the former plays very little role in practice.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Did you pay for the additional products?

No? Then they were free.


“I said sumthin and I are smrt, so thing is right.”

Look up the definition of words. Also, like, do some research on marketing. This is 101 level gak here mate


He’s not wrong though. There was a time that GW just started sending the SC kit when people ordered a Carnosaur. People paid $85 for the Carnosaur, and GW gave them an upgrade to what they ordered, which included two additional units for no additional charge. This...they were free. And most people buying the SCs knew the value saved. ALL people had access to see the value. So yes...free is an appropriate term. So is “everything in the box discounted heavily”. But the insults because you don’t understand what Kan is saying don’t help your case. They make you look foolish. Technically you’re both right and neither is fully wrong.


That isn’t what free means. Start collecting boxes contain no free models. Not a one. You are buying a product. It contains more models than a different similar product. That doesn’t mean start collecting is free. It means that it is a better deal, but that doesn’t also mean it is a good deal. Savvy.


It both is and isn't free depending on your point of view.

Saurus Guard 35
Saurus Knights 55
Carnisaur - not sold individually

Start Collecting set 90


Those are the numbers, from the customers perspective the Carnisaur is free because the price of Guard and Knights without buying the start-collecting box, is the same as buying the start collecting box. Therefore if one were purchasing both knights and guard the better deal is the start collecting box because it does give you the better deal, it gives you a free model that you otherwise would not get if you bought the two boxes of troops on their own.


From the perspective of the company its not "free" its simply pricing the three kits as a group rather than on their own. Therefore resulting in the price of the troops outside of the start collecting set, being higher than they might otherwise be to cover for the fact that they are also paying for the cost of the carnisaurs' production and distribution as well.



The customer has no alternative (legal) source of those models. Therefore within their shopping window the carnisaur is "free" because there are other options (from GW) where they can buy the models in the SC without getting the carnisaur.



So yes its not "free" in the strictest of senses of the meaning, but so long as GW offers other purchase options for the other content then free is a perfectly fair casual way to describe getting the carnisaur in the start collecting set.

As for the "value of their gak" that's something we can debate until the end of days and in the end because GW is a luxury product they are free to charge whatever they want.


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Will it ever happen, i would have better luck playing the lottery then to get people to quit the GW plastic crack addiction. I would be willing to support any boycott that anyone will post as I feel GW has been taking advantage of customers for years and something should be done.


The problems with social media however can cause additional issues

1) It's VERY fickle. You might get everyone whipped up into a frenzy on a Friday and by Monday they have moved on. Ergo many internet campaigns fizzle out on their own and often as not the company doing nothing or taking a very "wait and see" approach to their communications during such a time can simply serve to let the thing burn out. What tends to cause it to burn for longer is when a company panics and starts doing anti-consumer daft stuff (or a hotblood staffer/CEO gets on twitter and makes a fool of themselves).

2) It's not unified. Yeah everyone is there, and everyone wants to be a chief. You can very easily wind up with a lot of chiefs, a lot of sub groups and a lot of alternate agendas all competing with each other.

3) Perception of value is not uniform.

4) Perception of value from a customer point of view does not take into account anything but a companies declared "profits" at a most basic level. Ergo they are not going to consider future investment finances; covering overheads; covering emergency savings; bonuses to staff etc... Heck many might even just look at a companies profit before expenses to make the number look bigger. Therefore you can very easily end up with a boycotte that fails to work because it demands the impossible of a company.

Heck lets not forget the record profits GW reported last year allowed them to spend over £9 million building a new factory to improve consumer support of product supply; that's something which had to come out of their profits.


In the end it can be complex and it can be hard to draw a line on where values should be. That isn't defending GW's practics and some of their choices on exchange rates are questionable - then again tey are not the only company making such odd translations of currancy. Ergo it might be hidden costs consumers are unaware of (eg commercial shipping costing more to supplement cheaper consumer shipping fees); taxes; import tarrifs etc.. and that's all before we've got to the amount of "excess profit" at the end of a year that people think is "fair".




The main problem with this "oh its free" discussion is that it is a psychological trick. Pretending you are getting free product, when you are strictly not, is allowing the business to manipulate you into spending money. Yes the kits are all over priced, most people agree. But look at these ones, you get FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! models in it. It's a marketing ploy that doesn't actually mean you are getting a good deal. GW, and other companies that do this, are relying on you seeing the price tag for one product and going "wow that's so high" so that when you see something with a better deal you go "Oh that's so much better, let's buy that" even when you weren't considering buying into any models at all. And that is flat what happens, employees and even the website direct people to start collectings with the concept of you are getting such a good deal, it is essentially free models. But they aren't free, and the deal may or may not actually be good. What's the cost of a kit in development and production verse the profits of the sale verse the operating costs and marketing costs?

The main issue is that we don't actually know the profits GW makes off their kits, verse the expenses of the company. From there you could have a discussion of the ethical dimension of corporations and capitalism as a whole. And that will vary by person. Some people sigh nostalgically for the gilded age and are eagerly awaiting our return to such conditions. Some people want to eat the rich. But I can tell which people have any control of the way things are going.

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 Geifer wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Yet they're still fulfilling a function - and can, in a pinch, sit on an objective, making your opponent work slightly harder for it (and ever so slightly harder).

But Night Gobbos Nos 21-60? Yeah. They literally played no point in any battle, ever. 11-20 (assuming one had armed them with Spears) only ever provided 2 pips of Combat Res, for maxing out your Rank Bonus.

So whilst similar wastes of pounds exist in 40k and AoS (there's always something there that just gets annihilated), they are least fulfil some function - even if it's Loyal 32esque CP Tax.


That's just drawing an arbitrary line where use ends and uselessness begins. Those extra gobbos allow you to horde up and get more attacks. Those extra gobbos can provide extra combat resolution bonus. Those extra gobbos increase the size of the unit and thus board control. Those extra gobbos fight if flanked. In less exciting news, those extra gobbos help templates hit more and easier.

You are of course free to attribute more value to some uses than others. If that's how you feel, that's how you feel.

Me, I'm not seeing it. Loyal 32, to go with that example, are a resource generator and while you're bringing them you may as well sit them on an objective or screen something. But do you actually expect them to do anything amazing? Do you specifically buy them because you expect them do anything amazing? In a way I feel better about Fantasy regiments because you look at your models as a single unit, and adding more models adds to the group effort. Those gobbos will always be there when things work out for you. Well, the survivors anyway. Whereas the Loyal 32 exist apart from the units that benefit from the CP they generate. You could buy the Loyal 32 and not set them up and just enjoy the CP benefits on other units that you actually want to play just as much, whether those Guardsmen are there or not.

A better comparison in my mind is one of those few things where 8th ed is actually an improvement over the last edition. Previously you bought your Tactical Squad for the special or heavy weapon and oftentimes the Marines with bolters fulfilled the same role as extra wounds as their Fantasy counterparts. These days you may freely split fire. It's no longer actively detrimental to bring ten Marines in a squad over five (meta concerns aside). You buy an extra Marine, and he gets to fight. You buy two, they both get to fight. That's something 8th ed got right and I'd much rather spend money on those extra Marines than a resource generator. Yet the game is designed to immensely reward the latter, while the former plays very little role in practice.


I think you've hit the point I was trying to make.

Extra ranks of Gobbos were necessary to keep a Mob functional beyond the first couple of turns. Other than that, you were paying money for literally nothing.

Loyal 32 or 30 Grots? They can at least objective camp, and bring lots of extra CPs to the table for the minimum points outlay. So whilst nobody is saying they're a bargain, they still fulfil a function over and beyond Additional Gobbos.

Same with Skaven and Skellingtons to a certain degree. Both needed larger than average units to Do What They Do in terms of not going splatted in a single combat (neither being much cop in a fight).

And that was a central flaw in WHFB, which they never successfully tackled. The first was to reduce the Panic Zone, especially due to the death of the General. Around 5th Ed (I think, may have been 6th?) the rule changed that it was an army wide panic test.

The other was to create the Unshakeable rule (or whatever it was called. Memory fades!) which said if I had more ranks, any break tests were taken without modifiers. But again, those extra models never got cheaper - and rarely properly partook in the battle.

So whilst yes, there are instances in 40k and AoS of 'tax' units and models, the problem is nowhere near as pronounced, or inherent, as it was in WHFB.

   
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 Geifer wrote:
Me, I'm not seeing it. Loyal 32, to go with that example, are a resource generator and while you're bringing them you may as well sit them on an objective or screen something. But do you actually expect them to do anything amazing? Do you specifically buy them because you expect them do anything amazing? In a way I feel better about Fantasy regiments because you look at your models as a single unit, and adding more models adds to the group effort. Those gobbos will always be there when things work out for you. Well, the survivors anyway. Whereas the Loyal 32 exist apart from the units that benefit from the CP they generate. You could buy the Loyal 32 and not set them up and just enjoy the CP benefits on other units that you actually want to play just as much, whether those Guardsmen are there or not.

A better comparison in my mind is one of those few things where 8th ed is actually an improvement over the last edition. Previously you bought your Tactical Squad for the special or heavy weapon and oftentimes the Marines with bolters fulfilled the same role as extra wounds as their Fantasy counterparts. These days you may freely split fire. It's no longer actively detrimental to bring ten Marines in a squad over five (meta concerns aside). You buy an extra Marine, and he gets to fight. You buy two, they both get to fight. That's something 8th ed got right and I'd much rather spend money on those extra Marines than a resource generator. Yet the game is designed to immensely reward the latter, while the former plays very little role in practice.

You realize you can generate CPs with marines, too? Yes, yes, I know the mob will say there is only one, true way of generating them (and anyone who doesn't use it is a CAAC loser), but if you want to put more marines on table and generate CP (spoiler alert) the game will reward you too...
   
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That is unfortunate. Some of these things were already very difficult to justify given the price and now they are pricier. Some stuff like the bundles is still good value, but I was going back and forth on getting the Greater Demons, and I think it is really hard to justify the cost. I could get a nintendo switch with Breath of the Wild for less money.

At least they are letting people know somewhat in advance I suppose. They don't have to do that.

The argument about GW price rises is as old as GW, and we have had a brief period of better value with certain kits that brought me back. If it goes back to the poor value of the end of the Kirby era, I will just move on to other stuff.

   
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 Da Boss wrote:
At least they are letting people know somewhat in advance I suppose. They don't have to do that.

As far as I know, this time they haven't. I haven't seen any kind of official statement regarding the price increases.
   
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Yeah we only got a heads up because some stores let slip the price rise details ahead of the rise. Otherwise this was totally out of the blue without any warning from GW themselves to the customers. Heck I'd wager the vast majority were taken fully unaware by this price rise and might not even notice until they next come to buy something.

Also as a good few were small increases, many might not spot them as increases for a while. £18 to £20 on Tyranid Gaunts is still significant, but you can easily forget the price if you've not bought any for a while - esp when it gets confusing if you buy from 3rd parties and thus pay under the "going rate".

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Indeed, this only came out because retailers who got a heads up from GW spilled the details to the usual news/gossip sites. Otherwise, you just would have walked into the store or got onto the websites, and found prices higher today.
   
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Oh, fun. They have changed the prices of all the regular MESBG from €32,50 to €34. Because obviously those were oh so very old that they needed it.

FFS THEY JUST REISSUED THE FETHING BOXES

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Yep, every once and a while you got to refresh the package art "bling".
In a very real sense, the boxes are getting more expensive than the product materials inside.
I am still pounding through my backlog of miniatures so I can weather the storm for a bit.
I wonder if they will be tracking any downturn to sales after the increase?

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Dammit, I knew I should've ordered those Forgey Woild Night Lord transfers at the weekend. They've gone from £16 to £20. 25% more. That's... obscene.
   
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My bad, wow. This is a pretty big increase with no warning. Well, they don't have to and maybe they got a lot of backlash for publicising the last one. People never want this stuff to be pointed out.

Interesting. Seems like they are trying to find the price ceiling again. Well, I got plenty to paint.

   
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I've been silently following this since I heard about it a week ago (and have been generally trolling the forums for a bit).

Really saddens me this happened. GW was doing so good, and now this. Some of the price hikes actually priced my friend out of the game, who was on the fence before but the higher prices of some items made him decide it's not worth it to jump in. Also I've been defending Rountree lately but this is probably the last straw for me. We all know that regardless of any "price reports" GW puts out, the plastic minis ultimately do not cost anywhere near the price they're asking for, and even if the british pound took a dive, they likely could have swallowed the cost and then some.

Meh. Back into my rock I go.

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Say what you will about recasters but they have a sense of humour. I just got an email saying "good news" were not putting out prices up and best of all we were 55% cheaper before now were 72% cheaper that's how much we love you.


Also I have said it before last time I interviewed at head office many years ago the sales manager told us that nothing is sold in a GW store that doesn't have at least a 75% margin and I doubt that policy has changed.

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The new prices certainly reaffirm my desire to stick to skirmish scale games rather than mass battles.

Hopefully Warcry strikes a fair balance between content, quantity, quality, and minimal need for multiple boxes.

Outside of a massive Seraphon upgrade or subfaction rollout, it's going to take something truly surprising otherwise to get more cash out of me going forward I'm afraid.

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Unhappy to see that the Phoenix Lords went from 10.25 to 15 pounds overnight. That is a considerable increase. Wraithknight, a relatively newish kit, went up 15 pounds.

What I find most ridiculous is the 3 pound increase on the FW character series. They were already quite expensive to begin with.
   
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This definitely puts a dampener on my enthusiasm for Apocalypse. Terrible timing.

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 Oguhmek wrote:
This definitely puts a dampener on my enthusiasm for Apocalypse. Terrible timing.


Depends on your perspective. I hazard to guess that the unveiling of contrast paints, apocalypse release, and core unit price hikes are connected and will be very good for GW's bottom line.

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 gorgon wrote:
 Oguhmek wrote:
This definitely puts a dampener on my enthusiasm for Apocalypse. Terrible timing.


Depends on your perspective. I hazard to guess that the unveiling of contrast paints, apocalypse release, and core unit price hikes are connected and will be very good for GW's bottom line.


This is the opposite of how things work.

There's a reason they offered a bunch of steep discount bundles along with apoc. It is because you make more money prodding people to buy it with offers of DEALS DEALS DEALS! compared to the price of the product without the deals. Upping the prices immediately after apoc is a very bad look for those kits, and only works in making bundles even more psychologically appealing, but i doubt that makes up the loss of sales a price hike entailed. It takes time for people to forget this sort of gak, you should raise prices between major releases, not just after one. And in the era of the internet, you aren't gonna get away with sneak hiking the prices either.
   
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 gorgon wrote:


This is the opposite of how things work.

There's a reason they offered a bunch of steep discount bundles along with apoc. It is because you make more money prodding people to buy it with offers of DEALS DEALS DEALS! compared to the price of the product without the deals. Upping the prices immediately after apoc is a very bad look for those kits, and only works in making bundles even more psychologically appealing, but i doubt that makes up the loss of sales a price hike entailed. It takes time for people to forget this sort of gak, you should raise prices between major releases, not just after one. And in the era of the internet, you aren't gonna get away with sneak hiking the prices either.


Disagree with just about everything you wrote. Every time GW raises prices, which has been FREQUENTLY, people get on and complain about them and tell us how they’re done and have been priced out. Yet somehow, despite all the internet blather, GW stays in business. Why? Because despite the complaining MOST PEOPLE KEEP BUYING ANYWAY! And GW knows this! Sure, they may lose some customers, but the higher prices paid by the vast majority of old and new customers who keep buying MORE than offsets it. History is greatly on my side if you don’t believe that. ‘Whales’ keep GW in business. Some guy complaining on the internet that hasn’t bought anything anyway since third edition 40K is irrelevant.

And in the modern era of gaming, which can be considered both a golden and dark age, there really is no such thing as ‘time in between major releases’. GW, and many other companies, it must be noted, are flooding the market with releases pretty much every week. Some weeks may be ‘bigger’ than others, but in the churn and burn game market of 2019, shoving out mountains of product is the business plan most places. When was the last week GW did not release SOMETHING? That doesn’t happen often. I bet you can’t name many weeks that has happened. And don’t say I’m some kind of GW defender based on this; their prices are too high in my opinion, even if the model quality is usually very high. The only way it will change is if people stop buying. And so far, the last 30 years, the score in this game prices are too high is GW - 80000000, internet complainers that this time they’ve gone too far - 0. And there is NO reason to believe this price increase will be any different from the many that have preceded it.
   
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 Eldarsif wrote:
Unhappy to see that the Phoenix Lords went from 10.25 to 15 pounds overnight. That is a considerable increase.


Especially when they are model designs from as far back as 1998. For an £4.75 increase I think its time for a long, overdue updated plastic kit...

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Wrong thread. Sorry.

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SamusDrake wrote:
 Eldarsif wrote:
Unhappy to see that the Phoenix Lords went from 10.25 to 15 pounds overnight. That is a considerable increase.


Especially when they are model designs from as far back as 1998. For an £4.75 increase I think its time for a long, overdue updated plastic kit...


Yep, a 50% increase on a model that is close to the legal age of drinking and marrying.
   
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Blood Bowl teams went from €25 to €30.

That is pretty bad Imo.



 
   
 
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