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 bullyboy wrote:
wow, another week without a marine release for the missing units and additional supplements. Lame.

Really? This sucks.

 Crimson wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
wow, another week without a marine release for the missing units and additional supplements. Lame.

Really? This sucks.

it's gotten past the point of sucking and into the realm of outright annoying. no other codex has had to deal with that. for feth's sake GW put out these new minis already, you previewed them as part of this release.

Yeah, it's starting to get a bit annoying at this point. I guess Shrike (and the rest of RG & IH presumably) will, at the earliest, drop on the 21st. To be completely honest I'm not sure if we get all the supplements this year.

They told us psychic awakening was after Shrike so I'm guessing that's between the second and third batch of supplements. Then the SoB box is in November which will probably bleed into the next month and besides, December is often a lot of battleforces. This isn't even counting AoS and they're getting a new army during all this.

This sucks so bad it's "put metal Dreadnought on a sock and go on a rampage through Warhammer World" level.
We can't play legal Space Marine armies after a month. We can't plan our armies properly as the remaining supplements (4/6) could heavily alter which units works best for each Chapter.
We have to swallow several specialist games shenanigans, Sororitas, Psychic Awakening, and probably a whole new AoS army before we get to play our armies properly. Great job GW.

PiñaColada wrote:
Yeah, it's starting to get a bit annoying at this point. I guess Shrike (and the rest of RG & IH presumably) will, at the earliest, drop on the 21st. To be completely honest I'm not sure if we get all the supplements this year.

They told us psychic awakening was after Shrike so I'm guessing that's between the second and third batch of supplements. Then the SoB box is in November which will probably bleed into the next month and besides, December is often a lot of battleforces. This isn't even counting AoS and they're getting a new army during all this.

The 21st is Beastgrave.

You're killing me

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Great? My point was a boxed set is just another random GW boxed set. They don't exactly have much depth. Just cheap starters to pull people into army purchases.
If they want to tie it to 'psychic awakening' there are much better armies to choose.

All factions are going to have a focus in the psychic awakening campaign. I'm not sure you understand what this campaign is supposed to be to be honest. Not sure what 'better' armies there are to tie it to psychic awakening either. Orks and BT make perfect sense to me.

... psychics. Its rather in the name, and you've just used the word three times.

Better starter armies for a psychic campaign:
tzeentch anything, grey knights, craftworld eldar, nids.
But honestly pretty much anything that isn't 'guys with no psykers ever' and 'an army at random with exactly one psyker.' Hence why it looked unrelated

Other options for psychic awakening: Undeveloped armies: things like LotD with rogue psykers (and something to use all these cultists, renegades and weird chaos bobbins we've been getting), Hereticus inquisitors and Sisters.

Plus there's lots of fodder for units for 'all armies' like redoing the sanctioned psyker squads in plastic (and more than one sculpt), Pariahs, chaos sorcerers, etc.

I didn't. No real reason to watch random guy's random rumours- the summary seemed on point enough to go on with.
But there is no 'so far that seems accurate,' so far none of the five things listed in the OP have come to pass- there isn't any indication he's right OR wrong. It's like predicting an election- until it actually happens, there isn't anything to judge accuracy against.

You should probably watch the video. My summary is exactly that and without some of the details you are missing nuance. I believe the video also mentions Shrike getting a Primaris upgrade which is correct and has happened. It also looks like Raven Guard at least are the next supplement.

Also Kirioth (the video source) has been fed a fair few rumours that have been absolutely on point - he named all of the Ork Buggies before GW gave their names, this particular source also fed him information on Blackstone Fortress that turned out to be true (as he states in the video).

Listen I have no stake in whether you believe these rumours or not. I genuinely don't care. I would recommend if you want to discuss the validity of the rumour however that you actually explore it in detail (at least watch the video, that is linked in the OP).

I don't think I will, thanks.
I care about what kits are coming out, not any supposed 'nuance.' If they aren't summary worthy I doubt they're important.

Some guy has claims about a starter box contents, and various SM things are happening is clear enough.

DanielFM wrote:
This sucks so bad it's "put metal Dreadnought on a sock and go on a rampage through Warhammer World" level.
We can't play legal Space Marine armies after a month. We can't plan our armies properly as the remaining supplements (4/6) could heavily alter which units works best for each Chapter.
We have to swallow several specialist games shenanigans, Sororitas, Psychic Awakening, and probably a whole new AoS army before we get to play our armies properly. Great job GW.

Psychic awakening is going to be the focus for the next year or so of 40K - something akin to the Soulwars in Age of Sigmar on a grander scale with 5 or so different warzones and mini-releases for the factions involved in each one.
It doesn't look like it's a smaller add on like Malign sorcery expansion for Age of Sigmar, despite the obvious surface similarity around 'wizards'.

DanielFM wrote:
This sucks so bad it's "put metal Dreadnought on a sock and go on a rampage through Warhammer World" level.
We can't play legal Space Marine armies after a month. We can't plan our armies properly as the remaining supplements (4/6) could heavily alter which units works best for each Chapter.
We have to swallow several specialist games shenanigans, Sororitas, Psychic Awakening, and probably a whole new AoS army before we get to play our armies properly. Great job GW.

Pathetic, anything less then the old steamtank is pathetic.

Voss wrote:
[... psychics. Its rather in the name, and you've just used the word three times.

Better starter armies for a psychic campaign:
tzeentch anything, grey knights, craftworld eldar, nids.
But honestly pretty much anything that isn't 'guys with no psykers ever' and 'an army at random with exactly one psyker.' Hence why it looked unrelated

Other options for psychic awakening: Undeveloped armies: things like LotD with rogue psykers (and something to use all these cultists, renegades and weird chaos bobbins we've been getting), Hereticus inquisitors and Sisters.

Plus there's lots of fodder for units for 'all armies' like redoing the sanctioned psyker squads in plastic (and more than one sculpt), Pariahs, chaos sorcerers, etc.

It has become pretty clear during this discussion that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The campaign isn't just "more psykers for psychic armies lolol", did you even read the GW article because I find your utter lack of understanding of this campaign incredible if you have.

Psychic Awakening is the mechanism to justify a new, galaxy-wide campaign. Just as Vigilus was the mechanism to justify the prior campaign. GW have literally stated that all factions will get new rules and some will get new models.

Since you haven't watched the video you are saying things that make no sense because you are making assumptions. No one said this was a starter box for psychic awakening. It doesn't mean there's absolutely no link though.

I don't think I will, thanks.
I care about what kits are coming out, not any supposed 'nuance.' If they aren't summary worthy I doubt they're important.

Some guy has claims about a starter box contents, and various SM things are happening is clear enough.

The only person to claim anything about a starter box contents is you, ironically. If you're only interested in "what kits are coming out", you're probably best off staying away from a thread explicitly concerning rumours (it's in the title).

DanielFM wrote:
We have to swallow several specialist games shenanigans, Sororitas, Psychic Awakening, and probably a whole new AoS army before we get to play our armies properly. Great job GW.

Boohoo poor marines players have “swallow Sororitas” before “playing their armies properly”, makes me wanna cry, clearly GW should have delayed the Sisters yet again to make room for the SM extra stuff.
Not.




An Actual Englishman really wants to believe lol.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Voss wrote:
[... psychics. Its rather in the name, and you've just used the word three times.

Better starter armies for a psychic campaign:
tzeentch anything, grey knights, craftworld eldar, nids.
But honestly pretty much anything that isn't 'guys with no psykers ever' and 'an army at random with exactly one psyker.' Hence why it looked unrelated

Other options for psychic awakening: Undeveloped armies: things like LotD with rogue psykers (and something to use all these cultists, renegades and weird chaos bobbins we've been getting), Hereticus inquisitors and Sisters.

Plus there's lots of fodder for units for 'all armies' like redoing the sanctioned psyker squads in plastic (and more than one sculpt), Pariahs, chaos sorcerers, etc.

It has become pretty clear during this discussion that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The campaign isn't just "more psykers for psychic armies lolol", did you even read the GW article because I find your utter lack of understanding of this campaign incredible if you have.

Psychic Awakening is the mechanism to justify a new, galaxy-wide campaign. Just as Vigilus was the mechanism to justify the prior campaign. GW have literally stated that all factions will get new rules and some will get new models.

Since you haven't watched the video you are saying things that make no sense because you are making assumptions. No one said this was a starter box for psychic awakening. It doesn't mean there's absolutely no link though.

It either is or isn't. Waffling about it now seems ridiculous.

I don't think I will, thanks.
I care about what kits are coming out, not any supposed 'nuance.' If they aren't summary worthy I doubt they're important.

Some guy has claims about a starter box contents, and various SM things are happening is clear enough.

The only person to claim anything about a starter box contents is you, ironically. If you're only interested in "what kits are coming out", you're probably best off staying away from a thread explicitly concerning rumours (it's in the title).

I listed possible examples that could tie in. You claim this is a trustworthy guy who says it -IS- BT vs orks. That's a claim about contents.

My claim is YOU can't prove that his claims are validated when none the five listed things have happened yet. And that the other chapters will obviously get primarized versions of their single character models. (because why stop half-way through?)

GW's own previews have established what's coming for supplements- more books, more primarized characters, more chapter sprues

I think GW just did it so they can screenshot this thread about everybody complaining about not enough Marine releases . ....

Maybe we're looking at it wrong. Maybe the next character to pass through the Rubicon Primaris will be Ghazghkull?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe we're looking at it wrong. Maybe the next character to pass through the Rubicon Primaris will be Ghazghkull?

*Cawl takes out a check list*

Bigger than an average Human? *checks*

Powered Armour? *checks*

Impractical Close Combat weapon? *checks*

Metal built into his head in some form? *checks*

Angry sounding? *checks*

Alright, lets start the surgery!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

DanielFM wrote:
We have to swallow several specialist games shenanigans, Sororitas, Psychic Awakening, and probably a whole new AoS army before we get to play our armies properly. Great job GW.

Boohoo poor marines players have “swallow Sororitas” before “playing their armies properly”, makes me wanna cry, clearly GW should have delayed the Sisters yet again to make room for the SM extra stuff.
Not.

as someone who actually wants a sisters army it's a bit annoying that they're dragging marines out for so long as it runs the risk of my not having the new marine stuff done by time sisters comes out

Eh, I am rapidly approaching just ignoring the rest of this release altogether. Enthusiasm is waning. They had their hooks in me before, things have changed. I am looking at fun stuff to do with my existing models rather than getting new kits at this point.

Congrats, GW, you pissed this one down your leg.

the delay in releasing the infiltrator/incursor boxes are especially abffling these are TROOPS. they're supposed to form the core of an army. had they released them early people might have gone out and purchased eneugh to make an entire vanguard battle company. won't happen now.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

DanielFM wrote:
We have to swallow several specialist games shenanigans, Sororitas, Psychic Awakening, and probably a whole new AoS army before we get to play our armies properly. Great job GW.

Boohoo poor marines players have “swallow Sororitas” before “playing their armies properly”, makes me wanna cry, clearly GW should have delayed the Sisters yet again to make room for the SM extra stuff.
Not.

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but frankly you're being a little bit petty.

Yes, it's taken awhile for Sisters to get released. But we know they're coming out in November with the boxed set. We don't, however, have any real clue whatsoever when the remaining four supplements with characters and Chapter specific Stratagems come out.

Or when the remaining four Marine kits(Infiltrators/Incursors, Impulsors, Eliminators, and the Reiver Lieutenant that finish out the dang basic codex will come out.

And bluntly, you'd be in here complaining no matter how things shake out. So maybe I should just hope the same thing happens to you, with the Codex parted out into supplements and a release schedule that is incredibly stretched out.

Because frankly, this should have been done the first week for most of it.

BrianDavion wrote:

as someone who actually wants a sisters army it's a bit annoying that they're dragging marines out for so long as it runs the risk of my not having the new marine stuff done by time sisters comes out

As someone who's waiting impatiently for the remaining Marine stuff, I wish they had just gotten it done.

Whoa.....seeing the Marine players whine about having to wait a matter of weeks/months is unreal.

Nevermind the Sisters players who haven't had new models/ a real book in about 20 years, the Eldar players who are still using finecast Aspects from the mid 90s, the Guard players whose basic infantry plastic kit is almost 20 years old and awful or all metal/FW resin and is impossible to expand but on the secondary market, the Ork players who have a very antiquated basic troop box, the Inquisition players who haven't even been able to field their army for several editions.....

I could keep going.....but my point is, I don't think anyone feels remotely bad for you.

Well now I definitely hope that all the sisters models in the collector's edition box can only be found there, and you won't be able to buy them in any other fashion for at least 6 months, lol

Sure, it's completely unreasonable for people to get annoyed when a release gets dragged out for a silly amount of time with no indication as to when to expect things.

Because that's what the Marine players are "whining" about. Sisters players know when their stuff is coming--it's November.

I have zero idea as to when Shrike, Infiltrators/Incursors, Impulsors, Eliminators, or the Reiver Lieutenant are coming out. That's what bugs me. You can call it "whining" if you want, but I would rather that they would have just gotten the damn releases done earlier so that we could get attention focused on someone else without the specter of "ugh, there's another Marine release in the middle of >insert other things here<".

 Kanluwen wrote:
Sure, it's completely unreasonable for people to get annoyed when a release gets dragged out for a silly amount of time with no indication as to when to expect things.

Because that's what the Marine players are "whining" about. Sisters players know when their stuff is coming--it's November.

I have zero idea as to when Shrike, Infiltrators/Incursors, Impulsors, Eliminators, or the Reiver Lieutenant are coming out. That's what bugs me. You can call it "whining" if you want, but I would rather that they would have just gotten the damn releases done earlier so that we could get attention focused on someone else without the specter of "ugh, there's another Marine release in the middle of >insert other things here<".

They said about two months total for all the marine releases didn't they? Jesus people, chill the feth out. Plastic toys, remember, they're just plastic toys.

And I'm not kidding!

this would be like sisters being previewed a bunch of stuff, getting their codex and a handful of new stuff (mostly expensive characters) and then... nothing, with no clue when the bulk of the new stuff they want is out. it is frustrating as it means people are in a holding pattern I think anyone would be frustrated if they where hyped at something being an imminant release and then the rleease wave was put on pause to sell.. random stuff. I mean... did we really need a new kill team box RIGHT NOW?


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 Togusa wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Sure, it's completely unreasonable for people to get annoyed when a release gets dragged out for a silly amount of time with no indication as to when to expect things.

Because that's what the Marine players are "whining" about. Sisters players know when their stuff is coming--it's November.

I have zero idea as to when Shrike, Infiltrators/Incursors, Impulsors, Eliminators, or the Reiver Lieutenant are coming out. That's what bugs me. You can call it "whining" if you want, but I would rather that they would have just gotten the damn releases done earlier so that we could get attention focused on someone else without the specter of "ugh, there's another Marine release in the middle of >insert other things here<".

They said about two months total for all the marine releases didn't they? Jesus people, chill the feth out. Plastic toys, remember, they're just plastic toys.

whose "they" because GW sure didn't. and it's one thing to drag out releasing the new supplements, but dragging out the minis is kiiinda frustrating.

 Togusa wrote:

They said about two months total for all the marine releases didn't they? Jesus people, chill the feth out. Plastic toys, remember, they're just plastic toys.

Games Workshop hasn't said anything about the Marine releases that I've seen.

There's just been rumors like the one in the OP, claiming "every two months".

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

DanielFM wrote:
We have to swallow several specialist games shenanigans, Sororitas, Psychic Awakening, and probably a whole new AoS army before we get to play our armies properly. Great job GW.

Boohoo poor marines players have “swallow Sororitas” before “playing their armies properly”, makes me wanna cry, clearly GW should have delayed the Sisters yet again to make room for the SM extra stuff.
Not.




An Actual Englishman really wants to believe lol.

That’s not very tolerant.

It's really not complicated. We know that more marines are coming before psychic awakening, and we know sisters are coming in November. I would personally like them to move the marine releases forward so that we can get engaged with awakening and the sisters release. It's not about wah, wah, where are my marines, it's more about let's wrap this release up and get to awakening and the new sisters? Pretty simple really.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

They said about two months total for all the marine releases didn't they? Jesus people, chill the feth out. Plastic toys, remember, they're just plastic toys.

Games Workshop hasn't said anything about the Marine releases that I've seen.

There's just been rumors like the one in the OP, claiming "every two months".

The rumors have been all over the place anyway.

It isn't like Marine players are being unreasonable wanting the kits to actually play the units in their codex. But whatever, people can call it whining if they want.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

They said about two months total for all the marine releases didn't they? Jesus people, chill the feth out. Plastic toys, remember, they're just plastic toys.

Games Workshop hasn't said anything about the Marine releases that I've seen.

There's just been rumors like the one in the OP, claiming "every two months".

Okay, that helps. I had heard that from my local GW store guy, so I thought it was a real set in stone thing.