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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

If I recall correctly, Wild Riders were only Forest Spirits in 6th (and 7th by extension), the 8th ed book no longer gave them the Forest Spirit keyword - which was odd, as the new plastic models made them far less Elven. Only the Great Stag (lord/hero mount) was still an actual Forest Spirit, weirdly enough.

I genuinely do not have the pre-6th edition book, so cannot comment on if Forest Spirit was a thing or not then: but yes, that was the point I was making. I just didn't feel like going through the whole "History of Wood Elves In Brief" summary today.

I will never understand what GW was thinking on that book or what they did with Wanderers at AoS launch.

Well, you were saying that the Wild Riders were Forest Spirits, which they weren't in their last incarnation in 8th as far as I'm aware. (Unless it was FAQ'd). Only in 6th-7th they were. And in 5th... I don't think they existed yet? Don't recall models for them at least.

Anway, it matters little.

Not sure what the exact initial or current lore for the Sylvaneth is, but I got the feeling 8th was already leading into them a little. Treekin for example used to be random forest spirits inhabiting dead wood if I'm not mistaken (6th), while in 8th those were suddenly Elven souls instead (which felt odd, given the supposed split between the Elven and pure forest factions within the army). Looking at the Revenants, it makes a lot more sense that the two were suddenly combined, as that was a direction they were already planning to go to perhaps.

 Overread wrote:
I still think GW isn't quite sure what to do with some legacy forces. Eg I get a growing feeling that part of GW wants to reunite the Dark Elf modes (the whole army is basically there barring the artillery and a few heroes/leaders). Meanwhile its impossible to predict if Kurnothi are going to be a united force with Sylvaneth; or their own thing or even a whole army and whatever way that goes the remains in Cities of Sigmar are still under question.

What's even left at this stage? Just Araloth, Eternal Guard and Wild Riders (plus dual builds). The Eternal Guard are one of several units of spears available (Dreadspears, State Troops), the Riders one of several cavalry options (Dark Riders, Cold Ones, Pistoliers). They certainly could be dropped or moved and nothing much would change I guess. Based on the Underworlds warband, it would have been a surprise to see them join the Kurnothi, but now that the Cursed City Elf, visually very... Elven... has become a thing? All those three could definitely fit right in.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

If I recall correctly, Wild Riders were only Forest Spirits in 6th (and 7th by extension), the 8th ed book no longer gave them the Forest Spirit keyword - which was odd, as the new plastic models made them far less Elven. Only the Great Stag (lord/hero mount) was still an actual Forest Spirit, weirdly enough.

I genuinely do not have the pre-6th edition book, so cannot comment on if Forest Spirit was a thing or not then: but yes, that was the point I was making. I just didn't feel like going through the whole "History of Wood Elves In Brief" summary today.

I will never understand what GW was thinking on that book or what they did with Wanderers at AoS launch.

Well, you were saying that the Wild Riders were Forest Spirits, which they weren't in their last incarnation in 8th as far as I'm aware. (Unless it was FAQ'd). Only in 6th-7th they were. And in 5th... I don't think they existed yet? Don't recall models for them at least.

Wild Riders were an entirely new thing introduced in 6th. While they lacked the rule in 8th, the fluff mentions they're no longer truly Elves.

Deathrattle Grave Guard is the May miniature of the month

So the Grave Guard kit is probably sticking around for the new Battletome which should be close to release now.

Intereatingly, the coin is Ghal Maraz, and not Vampire themed, which is out of sync with the other coins, as they’ve reflected a month’s major release.

Pure speculation? This coin was meant for AoS 3rd Ed, which may have been pushed back due to production issues?

The article also says the coin will be gone for good when May comes to an end.
Where normally they aren’t sending them back or anything..?

Danny76 wrote:
The article also says the coin will be gone for good when May comes to an end.
Where normally they aren’t sending them back or anything..?

My local had all but the Death Guard coin on offer and Im guessing as we have been in lockdown through most of the coins releases, they have kept them at stores so we still get the chance to collect them, im now wondering if past coins will disappear in a couple of days when we hit May!

When googling images of the coins the other day I also noticed a picture of a case/holder for the coins, how do we get hold of that, has it been mentioned by GW?

Indeed. Well, I’m set for my £60 spend. Want to get some new spray cans, and the odd paint here and there.


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 Original Timmy wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
The article also says the coin will be gone for good when May comes to an end.
Where normally they aren’t sending them back or anything..?

My local had all but the Death Guard coin on offer and Im guessing as we have been in lockdown through most of the coins releases, they have kept them at stores so we still get the chance to collect them, im now wondering if past coins will disappear in a couple of days when we hit May!

When googling images of the coins the other day I also noticed a picture of a case/holder for the coins, how do we get hold of that, has it been mentioned by GW?

GW Maidstone have their cases in now. Seems you just need to turn up with your six different coins, and sorted.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Intereatingly, the coin is Ghal Maraz, and not Vampire themed, which is out of sync with the other coins, as they’ve reflected a month’s major release.

Pure speculation? This coin was meant for AoS 3rd Ed, which may have been pushed back due to production issues?

While this coin does indeed not go with a new release, I could see GW considering the reveal of 3rd ed big enough an event to make a coin for that for May. They would announce a new edition during Warhammer Fest and at no other point, so whatever else might be a May release would always have that as competition.

Then for when the new edition drops, a monthly coin each for the starter box armies since GW typically doesn't release both armies in the starter box in the same month.

Is that what's going to happen? Who knows? I'm in the camp that doesn't believe GW would delay a new Warhammer edition if it can at all be helped. Anything surrounding it? Sure. The starter box/rule set itself? No. So I don't think this coin was originally meant for an edition launch and got rescheduled.

I would have spent £60 to get a VC coin too..
Still we don’t know when Vampires are coming. It could be the last week in May pre order to start, and be over a few weeks, or two separate drops like Sisters, Lumineth and others.
So maybe they’ll get a coin at some point.

Happy with my Death Guard coin and my Chaos one (Be’lakor: but does he have his own symbol? Or is this just a normal 8 pointed star, it does look a little different, but I don’t know if he has his own version of the star..?)

New "big" vampire?

Seems to be the consensus. Lauka Val, the Mother of Nightmares.

The article mentions Martial and Arcane Vampire Lords, what are the chances of those being actual warscrolls?

I also thing that we're going to be getting mounted skellies.

The kits so far are the Vampire Lord, mounted Wight King, Skeletons, Zombies, Blood Knights, and the new character, so a decent base

That has more to do with the Anvil of Blood, which is basically a "Build Your Own Hero". It's been a way for a lot of legacy items to see usage and for converters to really stretch their legs.

 Kanluwen wrote:
That has more to do with the Anvil of Blood, which is basically a "Build Your Own Hero". It's been a way for a lot of legacy items to see usage and for converters to really stretch their legs.

Ohhh, that makes sense. I don't really read the White Dwarfs so thanks for clarifying.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
The article mentions Martial and Arcane Vampire Lords, what are the chances of those being actual warscrolls?

I also thing that we're going to be getting mounted skellies.

The kits so far are the Vampire Lord, mounted Wight King, Skeletons, Zombies, Blood Knights, and the new character, so a decent base

I am hoping so. That seems awesome.

I can't wait to see the entire range.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
That has more to do with the Anvil of Blood, which is basically a "Build Your Own Hero". It's been a way for a lot of legacy items to see usage and for converters to really stretch their legs.

Ohhh, that makes sense. I don't really read the White Dwarfs so thanks for clarifying.

They brought them out with General's Handbook 2020 and have added a few via White Dwarf it seems. I hadn't kept up too well either, but Sam Pearson tweeted out about it today.

Also: bat! *poof*

Two so far; one for OBR Mortisan/Liege and FEC Coutier/Abhorrent, then one for Khorne/Tzeentch mortal/herald/greater daemon heroes. Both have been extremely good, a step up from the regular Anvil (which is a high bar) in quality.


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Also lol@ Horned Rat article description

Kragnos confirmed as the final volume in Broken Realms.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/01/catch-up-on-the-major-plot-points-of-the-broken-realms-saga/

Did we know that it was meant to end at that book (or were there any hints)?

I don’t think we knew either way. Certainly I didn’t.

Lot of models for one book, but still no Kragnos (yet). If this was meant to lead up to the next edition of AOS, I'm surprised they're ending it this early.

We still haven't seen who was teased in the last BR book, which means we could have six models released for the book. It's possible he'd get released later on, and that plot points from the books will be addressed in future army releases.

Don't forget if there's a new edition after that then the big surprise could come in the form of the new boxed set and story unfolding there

Sotahullu wrote:
Well I am quite sure that this one is new (and kinda nice):

Damn, I hope that presages new marauders.

So Monday will either show Kragnos or a new edition is my guess.

Judging by this:



You may have noticed that a lot of awesome Broken Realms-related things happen on Mondays. What’s that all about? There just so happens to be a Monday coming up pretty soon, and it’s the first day of Warhammer Fest – maybe it’s worth checking back to see if there’s more news…

Are we being too obtuse? You really should check back on Monday.

Head to the Warhammer Age of Sigmar Facebook page and tell us what you think will happen in Broken Realms: Kragnos. What exactly IS Kragnos, anyway?

Age of Kragnos, lets goooo

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kragnos confirmed as the final volume in Broken Realms.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/01/catch-up-on-the-major-plot-points-of-the-broken-realms-saga/

I do like the idea that if they feel they have to do campaign books, they write to a story with the appropriate factions, and not just shoehorn in every single faction in the game regardless of relevance.
Makes it far less tedious, and slightly more of an event than a sales gimmick.

Voss wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kragnos confirmed as the final volume in Broken Realms.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/01/catch-up-on-the-major-plot-points-of-the-broken-realms-saga/

I do like the idea that if they feel they have to do campaign books, they write to a story with the appropriate factions, and not just shoehorn in every single faction in the game regardless of relevance.
Makes it far less tedious, and slightly more of an event than a sales gimmick.

Some people really hate that though, one AOs discord went ballistic because not all of their factions were covered. But I don't think it was ever meant to be that?

I don't know, I never listen to their marketing. They are usually full of it lol

No It was never mentioned it would be all or anything.
Not like Psychic Awakening for 40k where they said all factions would be covered.

Are the Skeletons from Cursed City going to replace the current Skeleton box? I can't find info anywhere. I wish GW would be more clear about this, I need to know if I gotta buy them now before it's too late.

​The current Skeletons look so much better, like they're marching to war. These new ones look like they're doing a striptease. Very disappointed in the static poses on the tree Zombies too...

At least the Blood Knights look good.

IHateAoS wrote:
Are the Skeletons from Cursed City going to replace the current Skeleton box? I can't find info anywhere. I wish GW would be more clear about this, I need to know if I gotta buy them now before it's too late.

From the previous preview, it looked like the Skeletons are getting replaced by a new box that's more similar to the cursed city skeletons (and that's true for zombies as well), but aren't just the CC sprues (which are probably mixed anyway).