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 CMLR wrote:
Gotta try and become a WH YouTuber. Lots of Dominion boxes have been sent already...

Reminds me a lot from streamer privilege, lmao.

 Ghaz wrote:
A bit closer look at some of the Kruleboyz in Warhammer TV;s first painting tutorial:

Spoiler:

Funny how orcs lack toenails, yet hobgobs have toeclaws.

Good luck. Be prepared to put in a ton of work. More than you think. Achieving any sort of social media following in the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands is far from an easy process.

Well there is a rumour floating around that Louise Sugden was hired to do more Eavy Metal style tutorials for Warhammer+ she even mentioned in a recent stream that Max had been teaching her to paint in the Eavy Metal style and posted some marine heads on Twitter that are in that style and way beyond the current tutorial style painting

 Ghaz wrote:
Yes he's a decent painter...

Spoiler:

My only complaint is sometimes he goes a bit overboard on how many paints he uses (53 paints on an Ogor is a bit excessive). Anyway I liked the Battle Ready tutorial I posted above because I wanted to see what the new paints actually look like. GW's paint swatches are a bit rubbish for seeing what the paint looks like.

53 paints means 53 paint pots sold for one mini.... GW does not want you mixing paints, the heresy!

I dont know but these tutorials seem more limited by an editorial decision rather than individual talent. I mean they can have the best heavy metal painter but if they are stuck with base and wash tutorials.

You shouldn't mix most paints, GW for sure, anyway.

They aren't pure pigments and they are 100% the same from bottle to bottle.

Your chances of ending up with some shade of brown are higher than repeating your color scheme anyway.

Re: Becoming a Youtuber to "get free stuff"... well you better look into that A LOT harder. Any influencer that gets stuff for "free" gets it far and few between.

Of course what appears to be many of them got it this time, it's a new edition. So I guess you have 3-5 years to build a following for that "Free" $169.99 boxed set.

 Mr. Grey wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Gotta try and become a WH YouTuber. Lots of Dominion boxes have been sent already...

Reminds me a lot from streamer privilege, lmao.

 Ghaz wrote:
A bit closer look at some of the Kruleboyz in Warhammer TV;s first painting tutorial:

Spoiler:

Funny how orcs lack toenails, yet hobgobs have toeclaws.

Good luck. Be prepared to put in a ton of work. More than you think. Achieving any sort of social media following in the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands is far from an easy process.

I am quite ready to pour out tons of work.

I wish I had the free time to do it earlier in my life and starting the hobby earlier too: Crendor shined because of his WoW machinimas and Blood Bowl Tournaments; and now he is just streaming at sloth pase. He is barely a full time WH YouTuber, and he has been on that for a year. I love the guy, been subbed to him since Cata and have the Lucky-Do rap on iTunes, yet I can't help but envy how GW took advantage of his WoW popularity to advertise their new products.

 TalonZahn wrote:
You shouldn't mix most paints, GW for sure, anyway.

Yeah, and that's no accident. The last thing GW wants is people finding out you can buy a set of 13 kimera paints and make every color you could possibly want, aside from special stuff like metallics. I mean you could even go lower than that if you want, I suppose.

yukishiro1 wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
You shouldn't mix most paints, GW for sure, anyway.

Yeah, and that's no accident. The last thing GW wants is people finding out you can buy a set of 13 kimera paints and make every color you could possibly want, aside from special stuff like metallics. I mean you could even go lower than that if you want, I suppose.

I would say it is more targeted at people like me who lack the skill to consistently mix paints.

 Mr. Grey wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Gotta try and become a WH YouTuber. Lots of Dominion boxes have been sent already...

Reminds me a lot from streamer privilege, lmao.

 Ghaz wrote:
A bit closer look at some of the Kruleboyz in Warhammer TV;s first painting tutorial:

Spoiler:

Funny how orcs lack toenails, yet hobgobs have toeclaws.

Good luck. Be prepared to put in a ton of work. More than you think. Achieving any sort of social media following in the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands is far from an easy process.

Well there's been newish channels with couple dozens subscriber with box so...

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Yes he's a decent painter...

Spoiler:

My only complaint is sometimes he goes a bit overboard on how many paints he uses (53 paints on an Ogor is a bit excessive). Anyway I liked the Battle Ready tutorial I posted above because I wanted to see what the new paints actually look like. GW's paint swatches are a bit rubbish for seeing what the paint looks like.

53 paints means 53 paint pots sold for one mini.... GW does not want you mixing paints, the heresy!

I dont know but these tutorials seem more limited by an editorial decision rather than individual talent. I mean they can have the best heavy metal painter but if they are stuck with base and wash tutorials.

So with mixin...how many different shades you use?

And how you get 100% colour match years later? Every single mix?

If you can great. For me next time i put couple % too much one colour and end up with shade that jumps up. And wasted paint applying paints over each other trying to get match ups as well.

tneva82 wrote:
And how you get 100% colour match years later? Every single mix?

the same way as you do with GW paints that were replaced with another slightly different colour, by trial and error

and at least for me it is easier to get the same colour from my own mix years later than finding a perfect replacement for a gone GW colour

 kodos wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
And how you get 100% colour match years later? Every single mix?

the same way as you do with GW paints that were replaced with another slightly different colour, by trial and error

and at least for me it is easier to get the same colour from my own mix years later than finding a perfect replacement for a gone GW colour

Hex Codes are your friend.

And there are entire sites out there dedicated to color matching between systems, and believe or not there's even a company that MAKES the oldest Citadel paints.

tneva82 wrote:

 Mr. Grey wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Gotta try and become a WH YouTuber. Lots of Dominion boxes have been sent already...

Reminds me a lot from streamer privilege, lmao.

 Ghaz wrote:
A bit closer look at some of the Kruleboyz in Warhammer TV;s first painting tutorial:

Spoiler:

Funny how orcs lack toenails, yet hobgobs have toeclaws.

Good luck. Be prepared to put in a ton of work. More than you think. Achieving any sort of social media following in the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands is far from an easy process.

Well there's been newish channels with couple dozens subscriber with box so...

Would like to see them, for scientific porpoises.

Link here or via PM if you wish tho, I'm working on something.

Yet again, why are they getting early, free boxes and everyone else no? look for a dictionary, that's privilege. Huzzah capitalism?

 TalonZahn wrote:

 kodos wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
And how you get 100% colour match years later? Every single mix?

the same way as you do with GW paints that were replaced with another slightly different colour, by trial and error

and at least for me it is easier to get the same colour from my own mix years later than finding a perfect replacement for a gone GW colour

Hex Codes are your friend.
And there are entire sites out there dedicated to color matching between systems, and believe or not there's even a company that MAKES the oldest Citadel paints.

it is still easier for me to replicate my own mixed colours than going to buy several from company X to mix them to replicate company Y

I just don't see the argument that buying from GW is better because years later you can jut go to a GW and buy the same colour again, because there is the chance that it is gone
the same way you can lose the note with the recipe of your own mix, if you made one

They get "Free" stuff (which amounts to about $100 gift certificate from GW because that's their cut, on average, from $200 MSRP) because they provide advertisement and build hype/FOMO.

That will push some people that were on the brink, over to the buyer side. Also, as I noted before, since it's New Edition, WAY more went out this time than usual.

Usual, being nothing, and there are Youtubers that will back that up as well.


You're providing neither and your "Privilege" is showing by bitching about not getting FrEe StUfF

You should take your own advice. Nav.

Apparently a pensioner with dementia.


[Edit] You also have beautifully youthful hands.

tneva82 wrote:

And how you get 100% colour match years later? Every single mix?

If you can great. For me next time i put couple % too much one colour and end up with shade that jumps up. And wasted paint applying paints over each other trying to get match ups as well.

Mixing colours is something you develop an eye for, I can pretty much reproduce any shade I can see. That being said, when painting a bunch of miniatures, it's not worth wasting time on that, it is easier to just have multiple paints, unless the mix you need is some simple two-colour mix. Also contrast paints are a tad annoying to mix as they have differing levels of opacity and pigment strength.

 kodos wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
And how you get 100% colour match years later? Every single mix?

the same way as you do with GW paints that were replaced with another slightly different colour, by trial and error

and at least for me it is easier to get the same colour from my own mix years later than finding a perfect replacement for a gone GW colour

Yeah the problem of not teaching painters how to mix their colours is when a colour ceases to exist most are left lost.

Besides 100% colour match in small doses is fiction theres too many variant things that affect your colours, its trial and error by approximation but once you learn about it you can tweak the colour the way you want it. See thats something GW could teach because they have amazing painters.

Not for everyone specially if your happy doing what you like the way you like it! but someone coming here saying you should not mix acrylics or oils paints, whatever you use, is just plain silly.

Yeah, I really don't see how mixing/not mixing has to be all or nothing. Sometimes I mix, other times I buy a set of colours for what I'm doing. Really depends on what I feel like and what works for the minis.

And I just don't sweat it if some of the colours are not exactly right.

 TalonZahn wrote:
They get "Free" stuff (which amounts to about $100 gift certificate from GW because that's their cut, on average, from $200 MSRP) because they provide advertisement and build hype/FOMO.

That will push some people that were on the brink, over to the buyer side. Also, as I noted before, since it's New Edition, WAY more went out this time than usual.

Usual, being nothing, and there are Youtubers that will back that up as well.


You're providing neither and your "Privilege" is showing by bitching about not getting FrEe StUfF

Is not the "FrEe StUfF" (btw, it is "FrEe sTuFf"), is the fact that a good bunch of mortals are losing the chance to get the Dominion box on their own or having to rely on scalpers.

Reviewing something does not imply that the reviewer has to get it for free.

Everyone has the same chance, or not. Just because it is advertising it does not make it any less dirty, much less if by own admision the reviewers say that they don't really play any WH at all.

Why is someone always talking about Ork toenails?

As acrylics go, GW paints are of very high quality, have a strong pigment and mix just fine. The stuff that is generally used for acrylic paintings is of far lower quality.

I imagine the biggest issue with youtubers and influencers getting free gak, is that boxes like that sell out within minutes at best, so majority of people who want one won't get it.

 TalonZahn wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
You should take your own advice. Nav.

Apparently a pensioner with dementia.


[Edit] You also have beautifully youthful hands.

Your the old fart right? since you have been painting longer than im alive so I assume your at least a decade older than me... oh wait we make fun of dementia now...very mature of you.
Some people never really get it... Go paint fences with your little pots...

Actually Pedro, you started it.

I didn't make a dementia joke, I just said you have it.

GW Paints are made specifically for their system and do not mix well. Ask any painter out there worth their salt. They use poor pigments that are quite large in the realm of paints. Mixing them does not provide any type of consistent results which is what a painter is looking for. I DID NOT say not to mix acrylics or oils. Many paints, of better quality mix quite well with consistent and repeatable results.

@Free Stuff Guy

If you want free stuff, work to get it like the others did.

Handing out a couple hundred copies isn't going to cause a shortage, that falls directly on GW and their Marketing departments inability to come within a range of units that need to be produced. Coupled with the fact they are JUST NOW catching on to the scalper problem after years of it going on.

Can't agree with that. I've been mixing with their stuff for years and never had any constancy problems. In fact i've just been using about 8 different reds, oranges and yellows of theirs for painting fire and i can get the same results everytime.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I imagine the biggest issue with youtubers and influencers getting free gak, is that boxes like that sell out within minutes at best, so majority of people who want one won't get it.

Again, if GW ends up being 20,000 copies short, a 1,000 sent to those influencers isn't even a dent.

If they end up being 500 short, ok.... you have a case.

Since GW doesn't release numbers, I'd error on the top number before the bottom numbers based on their track record with previous releases.

GW just goes heavy into the marketing of AoS this time
the best Edition ever (not that hard) with lots of people getting it early enough to make reviews and play games (not the usual "you get the box 1 day before release")

they are really pushing it, something that is kind of new for GW, so I just hope they have enough copies on stock, because the bigger the hype, the bigger the rage if it gone too soon

 Crimson wrote:
The stuff that is generally used for acrylic paintings is of far lower quality.

GW paints are average quality among artist quality acrylic paints

yet one problem with them is that a GW Blue + GW Yellow does not make a GW Green and there is no hint which pigments were used to make that colour (which is standard for high quality paints)

A friend of mine is good enough to win multiple high-profile painting competitions and does not shy away from mixing GW paint when he feels the needs to modify a color. Plus from experience I can saw GW paints can definitely be mixed with great success and I am far more on the amateur end. I would say that someone who suggests otherwise is confusing what works best for them as what works best for everyone.

[sarcasm]That said, only corporate fanboys buy more than five paints; red, blue, yellow, white and black is all you need! Anyone who buys more than that is obviously wasting their money, as there is no benefit to buying a pot of pre-mixed color. Similarly, smart people not only cook but grow all of their own food, generate all of their own electricity, and so on. Because time & energy expenditure have no value and people who act as if they do should be mocked.[/s]

But seriously guys, it's art. Any and every method is inherently correct and no one is wrong in their approach, nor could they be. Talking down to others for taking a different one just reflects poorly on the speaker.

 kodos wrote:

GW paints are average quality among artist quality acrylic paints

Nah. Most artists acrylic paints are sold in bigger bottles and are far lower quality than any miniature paints.

yet one problem with them is that a GW Blue + GW Yellow does not make a GW Green and there is no hint which pigments were used to make that colour (which is standard for high quality paints)

It produces green. If you need green, you've got it. I really don't get what's the problem is, they're perfectly normal paints and you can mix them just fine by eyeballing.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
A friend of mine is good enough to win multiple high-profile painting competitions and does not shy away from mixing GW paint when he feels the needs to modify a color. Plus from experience I can saw GW paints can definitely be mixed with great success and I am far more on the amateur end. I would say that someone who suggests otherwise is confusing what works best for them as what works best for everyone.

No, it just depends on the particular paint; some GW paints can be mixed with some others, and some can't, it all depends on the mix of pigments in each paint. Which you have no way of knowing from just looking at the label, since GW doesn't give you the info that would tell you whether it will be possible to mix it with another given color or not.

 Crimson wrote:

 kodos wrote:

GW paints are average quality among artist quality acrylic paints

Nah. Most artists acrylic paints are sold in bigger bottles and are far lower quality than any miniature paints.

being in bigger bottles does not mean they are lower quality, and if is lower quality than a miniature paint it is not artist quality acrylic

 Crimson wrote:

 kodos wrote:

GW paints are average quality among artist quality acrylic paints

Nah. Most artists acrylic paints are sold in bigger bottles and are far lower quality than any miniature paints.

I think he meant that they're average for miniature paints, which is true, though it varies tremendously by the particular paint - some GW paints are truly awful, some are very good, and a lot are mediocre.