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I'm not going to respond to all of you that have quoted me, there's too many of you and it'll take too long. I kinda knew my comment would set most of you off so expected this anyway.

2 things, though;

1. Unless I'm mistaken GW haven't released the price of the models yet?
2. Unless I'm mistaken again people are already complaining about the price of the models, that GW have yet to reveal?

This seems silly, even for Dakka.

People know my stance on this - I buy pretty much any new models for my faction, regardless of their quality of rules or (in the case of Ghazzy if he is Goff) if I can even use them. I do this to show that there is a demand for my faction's product (as small as my contribution is, mind) and because I am in the fortunate position to have enough disposable income to do so.

We know that the only thing that speaks to GW is profit. If they see little/no monetary value in releasing updated models for a current unit based on historical data, they are going to do it less often. I hope that doesn't happen with Aspect Warriors, as Craftworld Eldar (back when they were 'just Eldar') were my first army and I have a massive soft spot for their models. On the other hand I can see why players wouldn't want new Banshee/Jain Zar/Incubi/Drahzar models - particularly if they already have a ton of them.

Let's wait and see what the prices are before jumping to conclusions. Banshees aren't great on the table but they aren't bad either. I've played them many a time and they have excellent utility, particularly if they get first turn, because they can lock opposing models in their deployment zone and prevent units from firing.

If you play Craftworld, and you want to see more Aspects in plastic, the only (and I mean ONLY) way you can show this to GW is to purchase them.

I hope they sell enough to justify the other Aspects getting a similar release, but we'll see.

Prices from my web suppliers GW rep

46-49 CRAFTWORLDS - JAIN ZAR £25 RRP- 07/03/20

46-45 CRAFTWORLDS HOWLING BANSHEES - £32.50 RRP- 07/03/20
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45-40 DRUKHARI INCUBI - £32.50 RRP- 07/03/20
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45-41 DRUKHARI DRAZHAR £25 RRP- 07/03/20

OOF.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I'm not going to respond to all of you that have quoted me, there's too many of you and it'll take too long. I kinda knew my comment would set most of you off so expected this anyway

Don't worry, we knew that you knew that your comment would set us off. I know that British are very, very poor people, what's the price to ride metro once there, 5 pounds? I would never leave you without Russian humanitarian aid

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Prices from my web suppliers GW rep

...or will I?

So 5 Banshees = 5 WG or a Fire Prism?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I'm not going to respond to all of you that have quoted me, there's too many of you and it'll take too long. I kinda knew my comment would set most of you off so expected this anyway.

At least I know who doesn't deserve my respect anymore lol.
I hope you don't get new boys sculpts so I don't have to hear your endless whinging about how you are expected to pay £32.50 for a box of 10... lol.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Prices from my web suppliers GW rep

46-49 CRAFTWORLDS - JAIN ZAR £25 RRP- 07/03/20

46-45 CRAFTWORLDS HOWLING BANSHEES - £32.50 RRP- 07/03/20
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45-40 DRUKHARI INCUBI - £32.50 RRP- 07/03/20
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45-41 DRUKHARI DRAZHAR £25 RRP- 07/03/20

ugh..... That's grim. I hope you get 10 at least lol. That would be sort of okish and id pick up another 10 alrrady got one set from BOTP and another one from a reseller..

Those prices actually make the ebay scalpers look cheaper

I'm really surprised at the aspect warrior prices, pushing up around £10 compared to the Dire Avengers which are basically the exact same concept and content in a box.


Is there any confirmation on box contents? If its just 5 then those are really bad prices - actually worse than things like Daughters of Khaine Witch aelves.
If its 10 in a set then they are still on the high side, but affordable and better than Dire Avengers.

Foolish Craftworlder, who would sell you ten beautiful sword maidens at once? We don't do things that way in Dark City.

Also I heard there's that practice when, if you're not sure how many you will sell, you increase the price since most loyal (and rich) customers would buy your stuff anyway = profit.

Yeah, if it's just 5 in the box then that's painful. I'm one of those Eldar collectors who's got all the aspect warriors they'll ever need - in the case of Banshees I've got 20 in metal. I want to buy some of the new ones because I do like them, and I also want to do my bit to show there's a market for more Eldar updates - but if you only get 5 then that's a hard sell, especially given I'd want to build a full squad of 10. It's pretty much only steep FLGS pre-order discounts that could make me do it.

I skipped the Blood of the Phoenix box because I thought the price was taking the piss for what you got, but I always assumed I'd be happy to pick some up when they got their standalone release...

What's odd is that GW has been pretty good on prices thus far with new stuff. Ossiarchs were good on price; new Chaos models were too. It makes me think it might be 10 in a set rather than 5 because otherwise its really going to hurt Eldar if all their aspect warriors start hitting £30+ for 5 models each.


I think BoP was well priced for what you got (esp with3rd party store discount). It's problem was having mostly very old Craftworld core models which many existing fans already had - ergo the falcon and viper. For newbies it wasn't a bad deal at all; just a pain for existing fans of the army who have all the falcons and vipers.

All I can say is that for $55 (the converted cost for USD from a 32.50 model from the UK)....you better get more than five fething Howling Banshees. GW have absolutely lost their god damned minds if they think that's reasonable. If it's for ten miniatures then that's reasonable, but would be odd simply because other ten-model kits are generally $60 now.

For the GW-diehards and defenders...it's not about what people can afford. I'd imagine that a good 70% of Dakka are employed adults. The other 30% may be younger people or students on slim budgets. Anyone with a job and not too many kids "can" afford to play a GW game. It's about what you're willing to spend and what you believe you're getting for the money. For example, as much as I love Eldar (and have since 2nd edition), I will not pay $55 for five plastic miniatures, even at the common discount of 15% ($46.75). If this means the future of the Eldar line suffers? So be it. I will not reward GW for that kind of pricing just because it might mean more plastic kits in the future.

I play a lot of non-GW games and I'm well versed in the wide price varieties you can get between games. If GW thinks one plastic infantry figure is going to be worth $11 USD they can pound sand. Also, with a 12 year old nephew, it's unfortunate that while he wants to play 40K he will not be able to afford to do so. There's essentially no product he can walk into the GW store and buy with his usual $15-20 cash on hand. You should see his face when he asks how much a simple box of ten space marines cost, and I tell him $60.

I haven't played 40K in months, but I'm sad for the future of the game, and for the future of younger gamers. If, god forbid, Banshees are still five to a box...can anyone in their right mind try to justify $110 for ten plastic figures? That's laughable.

Start Collecting boxes are good value. I've just started buying minis again after many years not doing so, and buying various SC boxes (since I don't play any of the games I was always just a painter) has been a good experience.
/Edit - talking about for your nephew. Obviously for anyone that plays 40K Craftworld Eldar, good value SC boxes only go so far.

 Overread wrote:
Those prices actually make the ebay scalpers look cheaper

I'm really surprised at the aspect warrior prices, pushing up around £10 compared to the Dire Avengers which are basically the exact same concept and content in a box.


Is there any confirmation on box contents? If its just 5 then those are really bad prices - actually worse than things like Daughters of Khaine Witch aelves.
If its 10 in a set then they are still on the high side, but affordable and better than Dire Avengers.

I’m not really sure why you’re surprised, to be honest. The Dire Avengers are what, 10 years old now?

They’re pricier than Witch aelves, but WE are the core of the army. These are an elite unit.

I’m not really defending the price. It’s just not much of a surprise.

 Shadenuat wrote:
Don't worry, we knew that you knew that your comment would set us off. I know that British are very, very poor people, what's the price to ride metro once there, 5 pounds? I would never leave you without Russian humanitarian aid

Lol wut?

 Argive wrote:
At least I know who doesn't deserve my respect anymore lol.
I hope you don't get new boys sculpts so I don't have to hear your endless whinging about how you are expected to pay £32.50 for a box of 10... lol.

Dude, if it wasn't clear already - I would absolutely pay £32.50 for 10 new Boyz sculpts. In a heartbeat. It's much better than having 20 year old models for £20.00, in my opinion.

We have no confirmation of those prices, if they are true however I'd expect 10 for that price given Intercessors are £35 for 10 and Reivers are £35 for 10. To be fair, if you only get 5 for £32.50 please feel free to disregard my other statements in this thread prior. That would be a very bitter pill to swallow. 10, however, is much more palatable at that price and in keeping with other modern sculpts.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Those prices actually make the ebay scalpers look cheaper

I'm really surprised at the aspect warrior prices, pushing up around £10 compared to the Dire Avengers which are basically the exact same concept and content in a box.


Is there any confirmation on box contents? If its just 5 then those are really bad prices - actually worse than things like Daughters of Khaine Witch aelves.
If its 10 in a set then they are still on the high side, but affordable and better than Dire Avengers.

I’m not really sure why you’re surprised, to be honest. The Dire Avengers are what, 10 years old now?

They’re pricier than Witch aelves, but WE are the core of the army. These are an elite unit.

I’m not really defending the price. It’s just not much of a surprise.

Last time I checked, Dire Avengers are (and always have been) a troop choice, AKA the core of the army.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Those prices actually make the ebay scalpers look cheaper

I'm really surprised at the aspect warrior prices, pushing up around £10 compared to the Dire Avengers which are basically the exact same concept and content in a box.


Is there any confirmation on box contents? If its just 5 then those are really bad prices - actually worse than things like Daughters of Khaine Witch aelves.
If its 10 in a set then they are still on the high side, but affordable and better than Dire Avengers.

I’m not really sure why you’re surprised, to be honest. The Dire Avengers are what, 10 years old now?

They’re pricier than Witch aelves, but WE are the core of the army. These are an elite unit.

I’m not really defending the price. It’s just not much of a surprise.

Last time I checked, Dire Avengers are (and always have been) a troop choice, AKA the core of the army.

I’m not talking about Dire Avengers there. I meant the Howling Banshees/Incubi.

The warcom article mentions each kit of five, wich counts as 2x sprues.

They are an elite slot and thus priced as Retributors from SoB wich are just 5x models and 2 x cherubs.

And please don't mention Dire Avengers they were 10x Box until old Geedubs choose to keep the price and cut the models per Box to 5 models only (i still own and unopened 10x man box btw)

So, let me see if I have this right. I should pay punishing, contemptuous prices on CE now or else GW might not grace me with even more punishingly-priced CE down the line?


At those prices, GW might as well not even sell CE as far as I'm concerned, because both results are the same for this customer.


And if finding reward in punishment is the exercise, time in an actual dungeon is cheaper.

An elite 11 ppm unit for a truly elite price. Can't wait for Scorpions now.

Hey folks, kindly stay on topic and stick to Rule #1 please.

Depressingly the Sunday preview blurb confirms they're boxes of 5, (' Each kit of five includes both helmeted or bare headed options, and they’re armed with the iconic shuriken pistol and power sword pairing.' and 'One of the five models can be built as a Klaivex with a pair of demiklaives, with a profile for linking them together or using them separately to unleash a flurry of blows. ')

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/23/sunday-preview-incubi-banshees-and-black-library-celebration/?fbclid=IwAR19G5EJhfiPzi28v_MT_JwtSgbfBYksrouW3DYdglBtTWbpl-uDhc2Hm_A




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on the plus side, it now means the discount on the Blood of the Phoenix box is more comparable with the rest of GWs recent box sets

so if you got one 'well played' I guess?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Depressingly the Sunday preview blurb confirms they're boxes of 5, (' Each kit of five includes both helmeted or bare headed options, and they’re armed with the iconic shuriken pistol and power sword pairing.' and 'One of the five models can be built as a Klaivex with a pair of demiklaives, with a profile for linking them together or using them separately to unleash a flurry of blows. ')

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/23/sunday-preview-incubi-banshees-and-black-library-celebration/?fbclid=IwAR19G5EJhfiPzi28v_MT_JwtSgbfBYksrouW3DYdglBtTWbpl-uDhc2Hm_A




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on the plus side, it now means the discount on the Blood of the Phoenix box is more comparable with the rest of GWs recent box sets

so if you got one 'well played' I guess?

BOTP is going to fly off the shelves now!! lol
Another wave of ultra cheap vypers and falcolns coming to ebay near you..

I paid £25 for my Incubi. Ouch.

That makes Banshess/Incubi AUD$90. Jesus Christ...

I remember when the idea of the Devastator Squad being AUD$8 more than the Assault Squad 'cause it came out a week later was deemed objectionable. Now $90 for 5 is the new normal.

I’ll grab 5 banshees once they show up on amazon discounters, where I can use gift cards. Was planning on getting 10, but that’s going to be hard to justify. Hopefully they will show up in a start collecting box or a better bundle down the road.

Comparing it to the Harlequin troupe set which is £25, I'm really having a hard time accepting the £32.50 price quote.

Actually, comparing it to an unassembled Tyranid Warrior kit I have lying around and also cost £32.50...no, there is twice as much plastic than the Harlequin set.

The Slicing Noose and Writhing Shadow kill team sets were £30, so allowing a bit for inflation - the odd £2.50 - that would be roughly right.

I'm going to take a guess and say that the prices given by the GW reps are incorrect. This will sound weird but there is nothing "£32.50" about five banshees.

SamusDrake wrote:
I'm going to take a guess and say that the prices given by the GW reps are incorrect. This will sound weird but there is nothing "£32.50" about five banshees.

Forget it Drake. It's Games Workshop.

SamusDrake wrote:


This will sound weird but there is nothing "£32.50" about five banshees.

Theres they-are-not-space-marines-so-who-cares 32.50

It certainly seems like they're doing their darnedest to discourage anyone getting xenos armies.

At least when marines get expensive small unit count squads they've got good rules...

If they'd 32.50, theyre only 2.50 away from a 10 man intercessor squad, or any of the Phobos squads.

Which are all pointswise more expensive....

Does this mean $50USD for 5 plastic Banshees then?

And here I was hoping that all the Aspects get plastic releases...soon.

Just not too soon though, as apparently I've got some savin' to do!

$55 is the conversion over for a 32.50 unit.

While his Banshees aren't the best, the other Aspects from Artel are $50 for six, including a unique Exarch sculpt...so oddly we're now to the point that small batch resin "premium" figures are cheaper than GW plastics.

 Elbows wrote:
$55 is the conversion over for a 32.50 unit.

While his Banshees aren't the best, the other Aspects from Artel are $50 for six, including a unique Exarch sculpt...so oddly we're now to the point that small batch resin "premium" figures are cheaper than GW plastics.

Yep. Its ridiculous.. I have been eyeing up artels scorpions for a while...