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After being patient and allowing for the possibility that there might have been a pricing error with retailers, the UK price for the Banshees is indeed £32.50.

Up until now I've thought GW to be expensive, but this is outright greed.

Those kind of pricings have a GW tradition for their 8th Edition of a game

The metals are perfectly good miniatures. Definitely think people should go for that instead.
It is a shame for people who waited so long for updates to find that they are so ludicrously priced though.
There is a lot of stuff that GW makes nowadays that I just cannot justify paying the asking price for, and I have a better income than at any point since I have been in the hobby. But I would just feel like a mug paying that much for toys.

It certainly is insult to injury.

On a brighter note I still have Jain Zar, an 3rd edition metal Exarch and enough surviving banshee pieces to cast a 5-lass squad. Also got loads of blades and pistols left over from a Harlequin kit...

I can probably just cast the front face mask and then sculpt the hair. I might actually get a box of Dire Avengers to provide templates for more options - as well as a unit in their own right.

Bdrone wrote:
ill tell you I really dislike all this attached masonry on the newer sculpts everyones leaping off of- it actually bothers me with regards to both model scale, transport and potential breakage issues.

why exactly does GW want to price itself like this AND play the floor is lava!? I can't be the only one bugged by both factors.

The reason they do this is while cast models like this are fragile, 3d printed models or even China cast are even more fragile to the point of unusability.

It is an exercise in trying to protect their line from the emerging disruption.

(And it looks better for reveal shots + if it does break it might mean more money spent on the replacement)

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
ya know, maybe my not being an eldar fan means I just don't appreciate em, but I can't help but compare them to some of the newer plastic kits, such as sisters, primaris marines and chaos space marines and think they don't even LOOK that great

No they’re just not up to the same standard as modern GW at its best. I think the Dark Eldar guys are a lot better. In fact if I had to collect an Eldar army of some flavour, I think the Dark Eldar in general are many times better as a model range than Crafty Eldar.

The Dark Eldar range also has a ton of options for customisation - with the vast majority of parts being cross-compatible and not monopose. I can easily put a Kabalite torso on Scourge legs and give it Wych arms and an Incubi's head if I want to.

adduly wrote:


The reason they do this is while cast models like this are fragile, 3d printed models or even China cast are even more fragile to the point of unusability.

It is an exercise in trying to protect their line from the emerging disruption.

(And it looks better for reveal shots + if it does break it might mean more money spent on the replacement)

...so they are releasing more and more expensive models that are physically less stable... because they want to protect their bottom line.

Maybe they wouldn't need to compromise the already debatable quality if they didn't make it a problem just to buy the things people already like. throw some customers a better bone, maybe?

Happy to admit I was wrong.

I thought it'd be £35. The actual price gives us enough change off that for 2 or 3 Freddos. What a time to be alive!

adduly wrote:

Bdrone wrote:
ill tell you I really dislike all this attached masonry on the newer sculpts everyones leaping off of- it actually bothers me with regards to both model scale, transport and potential breakage issues.

why exactly does GW want to price itself like this AND play the floor is lava!? I can't be the only one bugged by both factors.

The reason they do this is while cast models like this are fragile, 3d printed models or even China cast are even more fragile to the point of unusability.

It is an exercise in trying to protect their line from the emerging disruption.

(And it looks better for reveal shots + if it does break it might mean more money spent on the replacement)

A thing is, GW is mainly doing Display models now

Some people have argued that GW models costs more than comparable other models because they are made for gaming and therefore need a more expensive process to get the dynamic look and be stable on the gaming table.

But in the last 2-3 years the stability of models decreased and even Marines got their share of fragile expensive models

We are now at a point were 3rd party Resin models (and old GW metal models) are cheaper, better suited for gaming and look better than new GW plastic
for those who remember, the end of Fantasy started the same way

Those prices are insane. I was planning to get a couple of squads for my lists but at that price I'll get one at most and even then I'll try places to get them cheaper elsewhere first.

Those are some nasty looking models.

Over £30 from GW is too much, but £25-7 from the 3rd parties is a price I'm content to spend.

32.50€ for Drazhar, who doesn't even look that distinctive compared to his brethren? Oh, eff off, GW.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
32.50€ for Drazhar, who doesn't even look that distinctive compared to his brethren? Oh, eff off, GW.

I really can't stand the new Drazhar sculpt. It's like they systematically removed everything I liked about his design, and replaced it with gaudy tassels and a stupid soulstone necklace, all wrapped up in a pose that makes it look like he's just lost his balance.

They could halve the cost and I still wouldn't touch it.

It's weird that they've completely obliterated the insectiod elements from the original that made him so distinctive. His original daggers were nicer too.

JWBS wrote:
It's weird that they've completely obliterated the insectiod elements from the original that made him so distinctive. His original daggers were nicer too.

Sculptor be like : " Say what? I have to do more Space elves now? Just get it over with, copy this incubi model and put him on bigger rock, add some bling, done! No more Eldar please!!!!1"

Probably the same thing happen to whoever make the new art/concept.

This race could use some sculptor like the one who did GSC, and Nurgle.

Ugh..... At least now I feel justifed in getting half of BOTP and another 5 banshees of a re-seller when the bOTP dropped (only paid £18 for mine.. should have gotten a full compliment of 30 ).

Watch BOTP fly off the shelves at least now
Im tempted to drop cash on some and re-sell these lol. But then I rmemebered Id be stuck with a bunch of falcolns, vypers and DE surfboarders so not going to bother.. Well played GW.

Chopstick wrote:

JWBS wrote:
It's weird that they've completely obliterated the insectiod elements from the original that made him so distinctive. His original daggers were nicer too.

Sculptor be like : " Say what? I have to do more Space elves now? Just get it over with, copy this incubi model and put him on bigger rock, add some bling, done! No more Eldar please!!!!1"

Probably the same thing happen to whoever make the new art/concept.

This race could use some sculptor like the one who did GSC, and Nurgle.

Indeed. It's not just the Incubi, either. The new Archon they did a while back has an incredibly awkward (not to mention dull) stance, and a face that looks like a slightly perturbed potato.

It's probably no surprise that GW used the old Archon picture for the most recent DE codices.

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 vipoid wrote:

Chopstick wrote:

JWBS wrote:
It's weird that they've completely obliterated the insectiod elements from the original that made him so distinctive. His original daggers were nicer too.

Sculptor be like : " Say what? I have to do more Space elves now? Just get it over with, copy this incubi model and put him on bigger rock, add some bling, done! No more Eldar please!!!!1"

Probably the same thing happen to whoever make the new art/concept.

This race could use some sculptor like the one who did GSC, and Nurgle.

Indeed. It's not just the Incubi, either. The new Archon they did a while back has an incredibly awkward (not to mention dull) stance, and a face that looks like a slightly perturbed potato.

It's probably no surprise that GW used the old Archon picture for the most recent DE codices.

I find the old Archon much better. But the current Archon made for a pretty nice Corsair Prince conversion. At least when that was something with rules....

Chopstick wrote:

Indeed. It's not just the Incubi, either. The new Archon they did a while back has an incredibly awkward (not to mention dull) stance, and a face that looks like a slightly perturbed potato.

It's probably no surprise that GW used the old Archon picture for the most recent DE codices.

Good point. The plastic Archon is a remarkably boring miniature with a completely static pose. If they were going for "haughty", they missed rather badly and landed on "bored". Which is a crying shame, since Dark Eldar are some of the most athletic and graceful races in the 40k galaxy, and Archons are very much in the lead-from-the-front school of managerial studies.

 Da Boss wrote:
The metals are perfectly good miniatures. Definitely think people should go for that instead.
It is a shame for people who waited so long for updates to find that they are so ludicrously priced though.
There is a lot of stuff that GW makes nowadays that I just cannot justify paying the asking price for, and I have a better income than at any point since I have been in the hobby. But I would just feel like a mug paying that much for toys.

I feel you here - I was thinking about upgrading and expanding - always loved this unit. Thematically, the whole thing. Now, meh. 8euros a piece? Honestly - I don't care about the rules, just, WTF?

Wow, the prices of those Banshees exceeded my expectations. That is absolutely insane even for GW! They're an extremely subpar unit in 8th yet cost 50$ more than 10 primaris? What the hell is this?

I do love people defending this absurdity! GW must not want to sell any of these models.

does anything else come with 28,5mm Bases or is this a new size for Inccubi and Banshee?

The 28mm's came out before these...but I can't remember where - Necromunda maybe, or Sisters?

Looking at the models I have to wonder why the substantial price increase. Some is certainly just price creep but there's one less model and I can't say they look substantially better than the finecast.

 Kirasu wrote:
Wow, the prices of those Banshees exceeded my expectations. That is absolutely insane even for GW! They're an extremely subpar unit in 8th yet cost 50$ more than 10 primaris? What the hell is this?

I do love people defending this absurdity! GW must not want to sell any of these models.

They definitely don’t cost $50 more than 10 Primaris.

 kodos wrote:
does anything else come with 28,5mm Bases or is this a new size for Inccubi and Banshee?

Warcry has them. Most warbands have leaders and elites on 32mm or larger, regulars on 28mm, and scrubs on 25mm.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Wow, the prices of those Banshees exceeded my expectations. That is absolutely insane even for GW! They're an extremely subpar unit in 8th yet cost 50$ more than 10 primaris? What the hell is this?

I do love people defending this absurdity! GW must not want to sell any of these models.

They definitely don’t cost $50 more than 10 Primaris.

10 Banshees ($110) do cost $50 more than 10 Primaris (average squad cost: $60). However, five Banshees do not cost $50 more than 10 Primaris.