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New HQ choice for Death Guard, codex announced and silly looking poison-teapot as fortification.

Jidmah happy

Racerguy180 wrote:

MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Cronch wrote:
ugh. The joke about "making more primaris" is literally the same they made 2 years ago about opening new Stormcast chambers. Except then it was kinda charming and followed by zero new SCE releases since. Here we actually know we'll just get more marines crammed down everyone's throats.

The heavy armor marines look neat, if again entirely redundant.
The flying brick thingy is the worst vehicle model GW ever produced, period. That includes the deo stick tank from Rogue Trader.

Yes! Because my subjective opinion is FACT! Nobody plays marines because they love marines. It’s because FW force them to, they’d all rather be playing my favourite army but GW dies release any models for it because they are idiots who hate money!

Am I doing Dakka right now?

I'm glad Assault Intercessor sgts can take THUNDER HAMMERS AND HAND FLAMERS, I guess the donkey-caves on here that called me a cheater for building some can SUCK IT!

I don't think anyone was calling you a cheater so much as telling you to wait for the unit entry to be revealed since there is inconsistencies in wargear choices here and there.

umm. I was LITERALLY called one in a thread

Racerguy180 wrote:
umm. I was LITERALLY called one in a thread

Well it technically WAS based on the information we had.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
umm. I was LITERALLY called one in a thread

Well it technically WAS based on the information we had.

so which one is it? you said I wasnt called one, then now you're saying I am one??

interesting

or was it that I'm not a moron and knew GW would include it?

 Crimson wrote:
Shame that they didn't show how the models for the different heavy bolt rifle variants look like. I hope they look more distinct than the variants of the regular bolt rifle.

Well the drum versions are likely the hellstorm, short scope (we can see a scoped version tucked under an arm)+ banana mag likely means heavy bolt rifle, big scope + short mag= Executor, just like stalker. The real question is what the two heavy bolter variants look like. I think the one pictured is just a normal heavy bolter, but can't say for sure. It doesn't seem quite as easy to just swap in a central component the way intercessor bolt rifles work.

I think it's best if we stick to the topic rather than hashing out comments/etc made prior to this and not in this thread.

Sometimes vindication is best tasted cold.


... well maybe a wee bit luke warm but y'all get the idea I hope.

These releases made me glad that I didn't buy into indomitus. These multipart kits look so much better.

I'm digging the new batch of gravis too. If one can get Hvy Interecessors in squads of 3 models, I'll be getting some for sure.

But still looks like no jump packs for Primaris, aside from Inceptors. So the range isnt ready to replace firstborn just yet.

Wigum211 wrote:
After Intercessors, Incursors, Infiltrators and 2w Tactical Marines... Was another bolter based heavy infantry troops unit reeeaaaly necessary?

Yes because in classic fashion the new guy invalidate all those others lol. The heavy Intercessors are 7PL for 5 or 140 points putting them at 28ppm. That means for less then +50% the cost of a regular intercessor you get more then 50% in durability because they are also T5 lol.

Now step back and look at most of the new necron damage outputs leaked, and the better weapons from other factions. Notice how everyone is using damage 2 weapons or begging for an update that would present them. Oh the new guys just so happen to all be 3W troops lol. So now 25 point dissintegrators have to double up shots, oh and wound on a 4+ without the need for transhuman, same can be said for star canons or even heavy bolters lol.

But wait, theres more! Now you get even more wounds on less bodies making morale even more of a joke for marines AND their guns effectively have the entire tables range given the new size with strength 5 to boot lol.

Seriously, it's one thing tollerating constant down pouring of marines, it's the 40k meme at this point and it's fine because honestly I couldn't keep up with that release schedule on my other armies anyway. But dear God, why more troops over walkers and vehicles? Heck even assault jumpy dudes. Now the troop slot is what,

Infiltraters
incursors
intercessors
assault intercessors
heavy intercessors

When the mini marines had tacs and scouts lmao.

Like why not a primaris flier even, it's so bizarre. Their studio clearly lacks someone overseeing the projects and making an overall plan.

Oh on a slight tangent, I am assuming the eradicator with multimelta shoots 4 times by himself verse the same target? So that squad of only three is shooting 8 multi melta shots now


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Dudeface wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
I am surprised more people are not happy about the supplements. Getting these almost all out of the way this early clears the way for more actual codexes.

We are in essence getting 7 9th edition codexes in less than 3 months.

This very much.

Oh you guys mean like this time last year? Remember that exact argument being made? Because I do, and now here we are a year later staring down the barrel of that exact same gun again lol

Any one else seeing a cheeky Dr Who reference with the Chronomancers Time lord shoulder wear?

I dig the look of the new Plague termi's and the "Heavy Intercessor" armor, they look pretty awesome.

That said, the fact that 40k is getting "Heavy Intercessors" just screams bloat, and a grip of niche marine Subfaction books isn't doing much to open my wallet. The Storm Speeder looks like an 80's GI-Joe toy, and I'm not getting GW's fascination with putting Stubbers onto everything, especially non-Guard units, in the last few years, and why they always have to be fancier versions of the classic Heavy Stubber.

The new Necron models, while excellent sculpts from a technical perspective, just aren't the kinds of things I really want to try painting (and to do real justice to what they're trying to show requires more painting skill than most people really have) and they look super fragile (though I could be wrong there without seeing them in person). This appears to be a thing with GW and Necrons over the last 9 years, make absolutely stunning looking models that are unholy nightmares to paint

I'm really wanting to find something getting me excited for 9E, but I'm not seeing anything to get me interested. Playing primarily Iron Warriors and Imperial Guard, with a newly painted all-Terminator GK army and Eldar & Tau lists in storage, I've got a ton of 40k stuff, but with the current state of 9E rules/points/army lists, and the profiles of product releases so far (coupled with gaming venues locally still not open for play), there's just not anything compelling me to move out of 8E yet or that is a particularly interesting purchase.

The new Necron models, while excellent sculpts from a technical perspective, just aren't the kinds of things I really want to try painting (and to do real justice to what they're trying to show requires more painting skill than most people really have) and they look super fragile (though I could be wrong there without seeing them in person). This appears to be a thing with GW and Necrons over the last 9 years, make absolutely stunning looking models that are unholy nightmares to paint

Truthfully, unless you're trying to get the green blades to look good (something that IMO looks awful no matter what, but especially splotchy with the contrast paints), they don't seem too bad to me.

Duplicating the glow effect on some of the cryptek stuff might be tricky, but most of those models is just standard metal.


I definitely agree on the stubbers, though. A stormbolter version of boltrifles (or just stormbolters) would have been more appropriate.

So all fw units are in one book? So everyone gets to pay for rules for factions they don't play? Good to see that the pa business model continues.

At least they finally talked about them. Now when do we get a release date? And will it fix any of the stuff gw has screwed up since they took over fw rules?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
At least they finally talked about them. Now when do we get a release date? And will it fix any of the stuff gw has screwed up since they took over fw rules?

I didn't watch the stream, so I don't know about any comments there, but the YouTube clip specifically mentions 191 datasheets (of which we know one to be the Ork Warboss on Bike).

Can anyone who has the current four books confirm how many datasheets are kicking around from those publications alone? Well, minus the Elysian and R&H datasheets, anyway. I spotted the following units in the video:

Tau KX139 Ta'unar (with Heavy Railcannon)
Tau Tiger Shark
Ork Gargantuan Squiggoth
Ork Kill Bursta (or Kill Blasta) Tank
Eldar Revenant Titan (with Sonic Lances)
Chaos Brass Scorpion
Space Marine Primaris Floating Brick of Even More Ugliness
Carab Culln the Risen (Red Scorpions Character Dreadnought)

I know there were some beta rules for Custodes stuff, so I'd hope the final versions would be in there too.

There's a very quick flash of the back of the book blurb talking about "two factions bespoke to this book" at the 0:27 mark. The rest of the paragraph is a bit of a blur, but it does end by referencing Titan Legions and Chaos Titan Legions - which is odd, as I'd've thought they meant the Death Korps and the Corsairs, meself. I guess we'll have to wait and see what they do with the latter, given the Death Korps are called out as getting an update.

Not counting DKoK(because the wording suggests they only get a Trait, Relics, and Strats), R&H, and Elysians, there's 175 Datasheets in just the two Imperium books alone.

Chaos adds 58.

Xenos adds 85.

So from 318(not including new products since the Indexes were released) down to 191.

Note that ~25 of those entries are named characters that do not currently or never had official models.

Fully expect that ANYTHING not currently for sale or on their site is NOT in the book.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
So all fw units are in one book? So everyone gets to pay for rules for factions they don't play? Good to see that the pa business model continues.

At least they finally talked about them. Now when do we get a release date? And will it fix any of the stuff gw has screwed up since they took over fw rules?

I for one am pleased its a single book with everything in -

 tauist wrote:
These releases made me glad that I didn't buy into indomitus. These multipart kits look so much better.

I'm digging the new batch of gravis too. If one can get Hvy Interecessors in squads of 3 models, I'll be getting some for sure.

But still looks like no jump packs for Primaris, aside from Inceptors. So the range isnt ready to replace firstborn just yet.

There is also Suppressors.

Actually a bit hyped for Death Korp.

Platuan4th wrote:Not counting DKoK(because the wording suggests they only get a Trait, Relics, and Strats), R&H, and Elysians, there's 175 Datasheets in just the two Imperium books alone.

Chaos adds 58.

Xenos adds 85.

So from 318(not including new products since the Indexes were released) down to 191.

Note that ~25 of those entries are named characters that do not currently or never had official models.

Fully expect that ANYTHING not currently for sale or on their site is NOT in the book.

That's what I expect. And probably nothing but data sheets. I expect no lore or any of the great technical details from the old IA books.

Dysartes wrote:Space Marine Primaris Floating Brick of Even More Ugliness

I knew you were a man of taste.

Want to know what makes it less ugly? Killing it with one round of shooting from The Prettiest Tank In 40k (aka the Fellblade). I've done it. It was hilarious.

I also need to know if Lias will survive to make it into the next IA Index


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 cuda1179 wrote:

 tauist wrote:
These releases made me glad that I didn't buy into indomitus. These multipart kits look so much better.

I'm digging the new batch of gravis too. If one can get Hvy Interecessors in squads of 3 models, I'll be getting some for sure.

But still looks like no jump packs for Primaris, aside from Inceptors. So the range isnt ready to replace firstborn just yet.

There is also Suppressors.

Which need a new entry so we can take more than 3 in a squad.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I also need to know if Lias will survive to make it into the next IA Index

No model, no rules.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I also need to know if Lias will survive to make it into the next IA Index

No model, no rules.

Which is worrying since I created an Anton Narvaez stand-in using a Shotgun instead of a Plasma Gun (since that's cooler) and I wouldn't really be able to use the model for much else.

Heavy Intercessors seem like a really bad idea. Did Space Marines *really* need T5 3W troops with guns that reach across the whole board?

It's not even that they will or won't be overpowered. They may end up being junk. But why did they need them in the first place? Space Marines already had more troops choices than any other faction, did they really need even more, and in particular, something that's quite rare in the game?

Seems like another instance of:

"What haven't we given Space Marines already guys?

<long silence as everyone thumbs through codexes looking in vain for something Space Marines don't yet have>

"Uh...3W troops choices?"

Anyone got a screen shot of the Death Guard fortification?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Anyone got a screen shot of the Death Guard fortification?

Hold up a sec. Are Heavy Intercessors definitely Troops? Because I don't see that anywhere on the datasheet.
I'd be a lot more comfortable with them being Heavy Support, but then that just switches their redundancy away from other Intercessors and onto Aggressors/Centurions instead...

Gosh, I'm glad they're introducing more variant bolt weapons. I was just thinking there aren't enough of those.



Aside from the speeder (which I dislike even more than the current speeder) it's a nice enough batch of releases. It strikes me that Gravis armour really doesn't stand out the way Terminator armour does... I had completely missed that the heavy guys were in Gravis from the pics.

Necron character releases continue to be all sorts of awesome, though.

That is a nice quirky model.

Huh, based as well, I think.

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Anyone got a screen shot of the Death Guard fortification?

That looks to be the main part, but aren't there a couple of secondary pieces to the right of it? One that looks like the top bit of that, and then a second chimney type piece?

 Super Ready wrote:
Hold up a sec. Are Heavy Intercessors definitely Troops? Because I don't see that anywhere on the datasheet.

The first preview of the Marine Codex gave a peek at the Table of Contents, they're in amongst the other Troops choices.